If you are near 80 or over

[BigStar]

4 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

I lost you right there. 

Oh no! Can I make things clearer for you?

[jerrymahoney]

3 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Oh no! Can I make things clearer for you?

no

[jerrymahoney]

37 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

 

Referring to just one person's experience out of the many thousands of similar cases, is hardly proof that my chosen way lacks efficacy. And there are, I'm sure many thousands of cases where conventional medicine has also failed to save lives.

Sure but (most) everyone knows who was Steve Jobs and his adventures -- or some will say misadventures -- are well documented.

[3NUMBAS]

clint eastwood is near a 100 and must be worried how long he will last but he was working on films till recently

[kwilco]

24 minutes ago, BigStar said:

I don't see a danger of either.

QED! - I think your posts show that you really do need to educate yourself - but that's not my job, it's yours.

I bet you equate a medical check up to a roadworthy certificate, don't you?

[BigStar]

30 minutes ago, kwilco said:

QED! - I think your posts show that you really do need to educate yourself - but that's not my job, it's yours.

I bet you equate a medical check up to a roadworthy certificate, don't you?

Oh, you gon' keep those numbers a secret, heh. But I bet you and your docs know them, and that's how you know what meds to take and their dosages. We had one old fart not long ago preening himself on his "normal" blood pressure and how "he'd never been to a hospital." Ha. Normal meant taking a handful of meds--prescribed at a hospital, of course.

 

Then you'll need to point me towards the sources of your superior education, in the spirit of forum helpfulness. I'm just totally lost, man. And you had to go play that scary music, too! ???? Ooh! Got me ALL worried.????

 

Yep, medical checkups are a good thing, unless you're an idiot. What, Me Worry? is one of the ANF Poster Longevity Principles, remember. My checkups and scans tell me I need no meds, the docs agree, and so I (cough) see no reason to take any.???? 

 

Scientific studies, fitness trainers who walk the walk, highly educated writers on nutrition--even a large number of credible anecdotes on a subject can be given some credence, I think, when there's some additional rational backing. I'm not opposed to trying different things I read about sometimes.

 

Mostly, though, I go by how I feel, and I feel great, fit, lean, easily able to cope with tasks coming my way. And I look about 10 years younger than my real age. I should stop doing what I've been doing for decades and get educated????, since you done gone and played that scary music?

 

[BigStar]

15 hours ago, habuspasha said:

I recommend Sinclair's book, which incidentally is quite readable, and you guys dismiss it without reading it because you know it's too much for his kidneys and because someone on twitter might have mentioned that he didn't age well?  If you look at his photo and videos online, btw, you'll see he looks quite boyish.   Unless you're focusing on one of the other David Sinclairs on the image page for the name.

I've got his book and regularly read references to him online. He's quite an expert and a big name.

 

His book offers a lot of futurism and tantalizing research done on cells and mice, mostly. Retreads a lot of common ground. Takes a number of supplements and has financial interests in companies selling at least some of his supplements. A number of them are often mentioned on fitness sites. Creatine is a notable one he misses. Then he degenerates into a SJW and wastes a lot of space pandering for book sales I suppose. Also panders to the vegetarian crowd a bit, out of date and wrong re: red meat, eggs, even processed meat. Standard stuff.

 

Very interesting, or maybe 100 pages are, and in the end not that useful if you want some hard evidence backed by human studies. The vast majority of people should just eat a healthy diet, maintain a healthy weight, and exercise, not count on any magic supplements. 

 

Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw did all this in 1983 with Life Extension: A Practical Scientific Approach. In retrospect, mostly nonsense. Made a ton of money, still hawk supplements, and they can afford the best of medical care. I think Durk got fat then managed to slim down. They both look a little better than their ages--Sandy's obviously had a face lift--but anyone can do that w/o spending a fortune on supplements of various kinds. Not that they're all necessarily bad. I take creatine, for example, among just a few others. So this isn't an anti-supplement rant.

 

[Lacessit]

10 hours ago, habuspasha said:

If Jerry Mahoney will forgive me for saying so, I have blood tests every 6 months.  The last eGFR was 75.  I'm 81.

A bit low, but nothing to worry about. Mine is 74, which I blame on doctors who kept on prescribing anti-inflammatories for my osteo-arthritis for many years. It was as low as 56 about 3 years ago, thanks to their malpractice.

[Rimmer]

A troll /flame has been removed also an incorrect quote has been removed from the post, and the reply to it.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

I've got his book and regularly read references to him online. He's quite an expert and a big name.

 

His book offers a lot of futurism and tantalizing research done on cells and mice, mostly. Retreads a lot of common ground. Takes a number of supplements and has financial interests in companies selling at least some of his supplements. A number of them are often mentioned on fitness sites. Creatine is a notable one he misses. Then he degenerates into a SJW and wastes a lot of space pandering for book sales I suppose. Also panders to the vegetarian crowd a bit, out of date and wrong re: red meat, eggs, even processed meat. Standard stuff.

 

Very interesting, or maybe 100 pages are, and in the end not that useful if you want some hard evidence backed by human studies. The vast majority of people should just eat a healthy diet, maintain a healthy weight, and exercise, not count on any magic supplements. 

 

Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw did all this in 1983 with Life Extension: A Practical Scientific Approach. In retrospect, mostly nonsense. Made a ton of money, still hawk supplements, and they can afford the best of medical care. I think Durk got fat then managed to slim down. They both look a little better than their ages--Sandy's obviously had a face lift--but anyone can do that w/o spending a fortune on supplements of various kinds. Not that they're all necessarily bad. I take creatine, for example, among just a few others. So this isn't an anti-supplement rant.

 

I take supplements myself, Vitamins B12 and E, milk thistle, saw palmetto, zinc and magnesium. Although I probably don't need the magnesium if I have a snack of almonds.

 

I compare pharmaceuticals and herbals on the basis of time and money. The pharmaceutical industry is well known for fudging results of clinical trials to get their products on the market, and most medications are less than 80 years old. OTOH, herbals have been tried and tested for centuries. Some work, some don't. It depends on individual physiology, and the placebo effect.

[Lacessit]

5 hours ago, The Fugitive said:

Becoming a State Pensioner was a milestone for me. Now nearer to 70 than 60, next step being 80. Bring it on!

I enjoy the thought my continuing existence and pension entitlement annoys the hell out of politicians, who would much prefer I departed gracefully a couple of months after qualifying.

Of course, they would never admit that.

[kwilco]

6 hours ago, BigStar said:

I'm just totally lost, man.

QED! Again

[BigStar]

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

QED! Again

QED! Again yourself. We can do this for pages and pages.

 

If you had something of any relevance, a case to make, you'd post the evidence, as invited in good faith. All you got, then, is a childish pretense to superior knowledge arising from envy and sour grapes. And ooh--that scary music!???? Boo! 

 

Since you're just trolling, you may soon need a little attitude adjustment from our mods. Enough with the time and webspace wasting.

[jerrymahoney]

In 2016 I had a pre-screening /lab tests for a colonoscopy.

 

The GI doctor said: Your creatinine levels are not good.
I said: I know. I take lithium (LiCO3)
She said: For how long have you been taking lithium?
I said: 40 years.

 

However, in subsequent medical discussions, the doctors have said, as long as the creatinine levels are stable, not a major concern.

[spidermike007]

16 hours ago, BigStar said:

Swiss guy in my building lived to about 95 with the loveliest caretaker you can imagine. SO nice. I hope he left her well off.

It really does not get much better than that. The alternative is a $9000 a month nursing home, with 160 kilo attendants, with attitude. 

[BigStar]

7 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

In 2016 I had a pre-screening /lab tests for a colonoscopy.

 

The GI doctor said: Your creatinine levels are not good.
I said: I know. I take lithium (LiCO3)
She said: For how long have you been taking lithium?
I said: 40 years.

 

However, in subsequent medical discussions, the doctors have said, as long as the creatinine levels are stable, not a major concern.

Thank you for sharing. We'll all make a note of that and keep it in mind.

 

Though I've always been conscious of the benefits of staying fit, years ago a vid on theory by Peter Attia oriented my thinking towards longevity and the compression of morbidity.

 

 

First person to make the round-trip swim between Maui and Lanai, BTW. In later years he's been too influenced by the profit motive, so isn't as credible as he once was, IMO. Still, excellent.

 

One point of special relevance here is not to be smug about those fasting glucose and HbA1c numbers.. By the time they exceed normal range, damage has already been done, and you're in a world of work getting them down. Get an OGTT (Oral Glucose Tolerance Test) and see what that says.

 

Anyway, the battle to compress morbidity's got to be fought on a number of fronts. I try to hit as many as I can within my limited means and abilities while following a rational approach. I try to optimize expense, time, and results/effort expended.

 

So I happen to like creatine as a dietary supplement without regard to my boringly normal level of creatinine.

 

The benefits afforded to older adults through creatine ingestion are substantial, can improve quality of life, and ultimately may reduce the disease burden associated with sarcopenia and cognitive dysfunction.

  --https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21394604/

 

While often viewed as a performance enhancement supplement for athletes, creatine continues to demonstrate exciting new anti-aging benefits for older adults, including fighting muscle loss, improving cognition, and modulating inflammation.

     --Anti-Aging Benefits of Creatine

 

Sufficient credible info out there. Doing computer tech support for seniors in cognitive decline, notably one w/ growing AD, not to mention reading posts on the forum from the seemingly cognitively impaired, has helped raise my consciousness of the issue. I also make food choices that may be helpful--Berries, Tea and Other Foods That Slow Mental Decline--as they work with a low carb diet.

 

[shackleton]

I look forward to each day as have  have a positive out look on life 

No point in worrying 

As one friend says to me years ago 

If you worry all the time do some for me  as well no point in both of us getting ulcers ????

 

 

[Surasak]

On 11/25/2022 at 9:32 PM, Woof999 said:

When I'm 80, every day will be full of rock&roll, beer & hookers. Just like it is now.

If you are lucky, but no harm in dreaming.

[TheFishman1]

Add 80 can you still boom boom or do you need like Viagra?

[thaibeachlovers]

I missed a few pages, but never mind, as seems to be repetition. If I'm wrong apologies.

 

Lots of posters seem quite worried about living a day less, so into health checks and medications, or not, to prolong life to the very bitter end.

 

While I'm no role model, isn't it more important to live life rather than worry about death? So what if I die before my father did? He was rather demented and a very sad man  last time I saw him alive. I was quite upset at his existence, and he wasn't short of a few bob to be able to afford a good rest home.

[Surasak]

On 11/25/2022 at 10:25 PM, stoner said:

with modern medicine and treatments there is no reason a decently healthy 80 year old can't live and feel like a late 50's or early 60 year old.

I'll let you know when I get back there????

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, TheFishman1 said:

Add 80 can you still boom boom or do you need like Viagra?

Wouldn't it be more to the point of being able to have someone to boom boom with?

 

Unless you have a medical condition, why should you need a booster?

[TheFishman1]

Thai beach lover at 80 years old I am sure a lot of people take a lot of different medication’s that so I was wondering if they need Viagra to do boom boom OK they just get a hard on without any medication that was my point of asking

[thaibeachlovers]

51 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said:

Thai beach lover at 80 years old I am sure a lot of people take a lot of different medication’s that so I was wondering if they need Viagra to do boom boom OK they just get a hard on without any medication that was my point of asking

Sorted it for you

 

https://ro.co/health-guide/what-age-does-a-man-stop-getting-hard/

The answer to the question, “what age does a man stop getting hard?” is simple: it doesn’t exist. 

[woodyashy1]

On 11/26/2022 at 3:15 AM, HuskerDo2 said:

s? 

 

 

 

[ChrisKC]

The "future" is any time after today!

 

I am 77 and have many ideas for the future that include projects at home, travel within Thailand and abroad, continuing my regular bike riding and generally enjoying the pleasures of my everyday life.

 

Whether I can complete some of them will depend on my survival, however that may or may not be seriously compromised at any time.

 

I am planning on living forever,

 

So far, so good!

[Hummin]

9 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

The "future" is any time after today!

 

I am 77 and have many ideas for the future that include projects at home, travel within Thailand and abroad, continuing my regular bike riding and generally enjoying the pleasures of my everyday life.

 

Whether I can complete some of them will depend on my survival, however that may or may not be seriously compromised at any time.

 

I am planning on living forever,

 

So far, so good!

Good to know, Im just 24 years to go, and hope Im still up at sunrise and still have plans for the day!

[3NUMBAS]

george clooney must be 80 now wonder how he's getting on?

[3NUMBAS]

3 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

Thai beach lover at 80 years old I am sure a lot of people take a lot of different medication’s that so I was wondering if they need Viagra to do boom boom OK they just get a hard on without any medication that was my point of asking

lack of testosterone at that        age is a prob

[Mansell]

In another 15 months I will be 80. I’m physically fit, tennis twice a week, bicycling once or twice a week, walking 6 kilos once a week, swimming for 45 minutes twice a week. No coffee or tea, no red meat or pig, salads with around 20 different things in it, alcohol occasionally, wife 32 years younger, two sons. Really enjoy life and always have done. Sex with a little assistance from the pharmacy. Just had the best sex in my life with a potential number 2 wife….two crazy hours with a 49 year old. Figure I’ll live to 90, maybe longer if the number 2 happens. Life is fun and a bit crazy.