Lady Susan Hussey quits over remarks to charity boss Ngozi Fulani

[Mac Mickmanus]

13 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

And even using a phoney African name instead of her 'real' name.

Yes, she uses an African name , wears African clothes , has an African hairstyle , wears an African flag and gets offended when asked where about in Africa is she from and makes accusations of racism .

[Bluespunk]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, she uses an African name , wears African clothes , has an African hairstyle , wears an African flag and gets offended when asked where about in Africa is she from and makes accusations of racism .

Yep.
 

The reason being she explained she was British and was not believed. 
 

That is racism. 

[Scott]

7 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, that was the point that I made earlier in the thread , Sista space only helping Females  from the African/Caribbean community  is indeed racist (and sexist as well, for that matter). 

A look at their site does not indicate that their services are restricted to Females of Africa/Caribbean descent.  It does state that they SPECIALIZE in domestic abuse of African/Caribbean descent. 

 

Many charities have specialized services for a particular group.  That does not mean they turn others away.  Like many charities, they will refer you to an appropriate organization for the type of problem you are facing.  

 

It does not become racist or sexist unless the same type of services aren't available to people on a broader scale.  So are the services offered by this organization available to everyone who is a victim of domestic abuse?   I suspect the services are.  I suspect that there is no preference in funding various charities dealing with domestic abuse for African/Caribbean victims.   I also suspect men of all colors can access services for domestic violence. 

 

The information being posted is most likely false and it is misleading.  Please stop. 

[ozimoron]

Hopefully this tortuous ordeal is now over.

[Mac Mickmanus]

16 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Hopefully this tortuous ordeal is now over.

I have the feeling that we haven't heard the last of Ngozi .

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I have the feeling that we haven't heard the last of Ngozi .

My comment was nothing to do with Ngozi or Hussey.

[Bluespunk]

12 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I have the feeling that we haven't heard the last of Ngozi .

But at least we have hopefully heard the last of your gross misrepresentations on how the charity she works with operates. 

[Scott]

Troll post removed.  This is the final warning before suspensions are given.  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. 

 

[Scott]

Troll post reported and removed. 

 

[BobBKK]

I have not seen any witnesses statements. 

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

I have not seen any witnesses statements. 

Why would there have been a need for witness statements? Nothing that was said has been contradicted and neither was there a denial that there were witnesses.

[BobBKK]

Just now, ozimoron said:

Why would there have been a need for witness statements? Nothing that was said has been contradicted and neither was there a denial that there were witnesses.

I mentioned it as you made the claim. I very much doubt there were lots of people listening in. People get offended at the slightest thing these days.

 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, BobBKK said:

I mentioned it as you made the claim. I very much doubt there were lots of people listening in. People get offended at the slightest thing these days.

I said there were witnesses according the what I had read. The palace admitted that Hussey was racist and they and her have apologised. That's the end of the story.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

I said there were witnesses according the what I had read. The palace admitted that Hussey was racist and they and her have apologised. That's the end of the story.

They admitted nothing of the sort.

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

They admitted nothing of the sort.

The palace apologised and explicitly mentioned the word racism in their apology.

[nauseus]

16 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The palace apologised and explicitly mentioned the word racism in their apology.

Link that then please. I can't find it.

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Link that then please. I can't find it.

Reread the thread. I will never link twice because I know the right wing will never read a link posted which doesn't confirm their biases. Other than that,do a google search. There is a link in this topic.

 

Try the 5th sentence in the OP. That;s an indication of how disingenuous you are. I'd say you are trolling.

[nauseus]

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Reread the thread. I will never link twice because I know the right wing will never read a link posted which doesn't confirm their biases. Other than that,do a google search. There is a link in this topic.

 

Try the 5th sentence in the OP. That;s an indication of how disingenuous you are. I'd say you are trolling.

I just asked for a bit of help that's all - I'm not rereading 31  pages - the only direct quote from the palace I can see in the BBC report is "the palace described the remarks as "unacceptable and deeply regrettable". That agrees with what I could find.

 

Although your unfriendly accusation of trolling has made me less full of seasonal cheer.....

 

....Merry Christmas.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

I just asked for a bit of help that's all - I'm not rereading 31  pages - the only direct quote from the palace I can see in the BBC report is "the palace described the remarks as "unacceptable and deeply regrettable". That agrees with what I could find.

 

Although your unfriendly accusation of trolling has made me less full of seasonal cheer.....

 

....Merry Christmas.

You only had to read the link posted in the OP. That goes to my observation that those on the right never read links outside the echo chamber. You said you couldn't find it. That implies that you tried which is manifestly not the case. Man up.

[nauseus]

9 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

You only had to read the link posted in the OP. That goes to my observation that those on the right never read links outside the echo chamber. You said you couldn't find it. That implies that you tried which is manifestly not the case. Man up.

And you accused me of trolling! 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

And you accused me of trolling! 

Yes. You claimed you couldn't find the quote and asked me to post it. It was staring you in the face but you didn't look. How is that not trolling?

[nauseus]

Just now, ozimoron said:

Yes. You claimed you couldn't find the quote and asked me to post it. It was staring you in the face but you didn't look. How is that not trolling?

The OP has one link into the BBC report, which itself contains other links.

 

I had been searching externally to this AN site for any verification and a formal statement from Buckingham Palace. That's it,

[ozimoron]

Just now, nauseus said:

The OP has one link into the BBC report, which itself contains other links.

 

I had been searching externally to this AN site for any verification and a formal statement from Buckingham Palace. That's it,

You didn't need to follow other links. The link to the BBC article in the OP was sufficient. You didn't read it. Why not?

[BobBKK]

On 12/24/2022 at 11:44 AM, ozimoron said:

I said there were witnesses according the what I had read. The palace admitted that Hussey was racist and they and her have apologised. That's the end of the story.

No they didn't you are making it up again - 5th sentence is a general comment on society which all of us agree with. Hussey was thrown to the wolves to satisfy a minority. And before you snap back I am not a Royalist or right wing. 

[ozimoron]

3 hours ago, BobBKK said:

No they didn't you are making it up again - 5th sentence is a general comment on society which all of us agree with. Hussey was thrown to the wolves to satisfy a minority. And before you snap back I am not a Royalist or right wing. 

The palace explicitly condemned racism in a statement about Hussey's questions.

[BobBKK]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

The palace explicitly condemned racism in a statement about Hussey's questions.

Of course but you are splitting hairs - they said "we condemn all racism"  they are not going to say "we like racism" are they? The woman was dressed in African costume and assumed an African name (not her real name) I think most people would say "where do you come from" obviously her family are not from England originally and she chose to make a political point and crucify the old lady who innocently asked. I have a foreign sounding name and get asked a lot about the same thing.  I do NOT take offence as I do not take offence when Thais call me Farang. The world is over sensitive anent a minority next thing you know they will be condemning Clarkson for making a joke using a Game of Thrones scene... oh wait.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, BobBKK said:

Of course but you are splitting hairs - they said "we condemn all racism"  they are not going to say "we like racism" are they? The woman was dressed in African costume and assumed an African name (not her real name) I think most people would say "where do you come from" obviously her family are not from England originally and she chose to make a political point and crucify the old lady who innocently asked. I have a foreign sounding name and get asked a lot about the same thing.  I do NOT take offence as I do not take offence when Thais call me Farang. The world is over sensitive anent a minority next thing you know they will be condemning Clarkson for making a joke using a Game of Thrones scene... oh wait.

Their apology was not general. They were not "shooting the breeze". They were discussing Hussey, not racism in general.

 

Dressing in African costume is not a hanging offence. Ngozi was representing her charity in her official capacity.

[ozimoron]

On 1/4/2023 at 1:46 PM, BobBKK said:

Of course but you are splitting hairs - they said "we condemn all racism"  they are not going to say "we like racism" are they? The woman was dressed in African costume and assumed an African name (not her real name) I think most people would say "where do you come from" obviously her family are not from England originally and she chose to make a political point and crucify the old lady who innocently asked. I have a foreign sounding name and get asked a lot about the same thing.  I do NOT take offence as I do not take offence when Thais call me Farang. The world is over sensitive anent a minority next thing you know they will be condemning Clarkson for making a joke using a Game of Thrones scene... oh wait.

You are the one splitting hairs. You're torturing the English language pretending that an official palace statement about nothing other than Hussey's comments and condemning racism isn't about her. What a joke. Nobody will buy that.

[BobBKK]

43 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

You are the one splitting hairs. You're torturing the English language pretending that an official palace statement about nothing other than Hussey's comments and condemning racism isn't about her. What a joke. Nobody will buy that.

You are the joke. They were discussing the incident, yes, and condemned racism in broad terms. It's a rather clever press release the nuances of which have passed you by obviously.

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

You are the joke. They were discussing the incident, yes, and condemned racism in broad terms. It's a rather clever press release the nuances of which have passed you by obviously.

You have not posted a shred of evidence to indicate that the palace was doing anything other than responding to Hussey's questioning of Ngozi. They weren't rambling off topic. Again, the palace's statement was about nothing other than Hussey's statement.