EV Charging Stations (CS)

[KhunLA]

Our preference and use mostly, EV Station Pluz & PEA, usually at Bangchak locations.   

 

MG Super Chargers if first 2 aren't available.  Have used Elexa, and like, but not a lot of them around.   

 

Do need to test the Altervim app one of these days, as having at local Lotus's.

 

Regrettably have the eVolt app w/1000 baht on it, that I doubt we'll ever use, as very few fast charger outside of Krung Thep area.  Avoid registering on that.

 

Haven't needed to use any other app, and think we only have EA Anywhere on the phone, just never got around to using.

[Andrew Dwyer]

I did get sidetracked by a charger called something like EV Smile Station which was nearby so took a look see.

Turned out to be a couple of 7kw chargers ( although advertised at 22 kw ), probably giving out around 6.4 kw like at home but for 8.5 baht a kw .

Set up by Tony and Patrick (?) and probably good for the local residents but not good for anyone on the move, so sorry Tony sorry Patrick !

[Pib]

2 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I did get sidetracked by a charger called something like EV Smile Station which was nearby so took a look see.

Turned out to be a couple of 7kw chargers ( although advertised at 22 kw ), probably giving out around 6.4 kw like at home but for 8.5 baht a kw .

Set up by Tony and Patrick (?) and probably good for the local residents but not good for anyone on the move, so sorry Tony sorry Patrick !

 

Yea...when using some website/app like Plug & Share or Charge Loma you can find MANY chargers listed that are small AC chargers (e.g., 7KW chargers) at small resorts/hotels, maybe a person's driveway, etc.,....just another way to hopefully make a few baht and provide a service to a customer.   But even those sites/apps don't list on the AC/DC chargers

 

 Like shown at the bottom some small resort north of Chiang Rai which has some wall chargers.  I expect no app is used....you just pay the charger owner directly, just added to your hotel bill, etc.  Places like this are fine like if staying at the resort, you plug-in over night, the 7KW wall charger will add about 10% SoC per hour, and come next morning as you check-out & continue your trip you have a full charge.  But for a "quick" charge as you drive along to your next destination, well, unless you want to set at a 7KW charger for hours & hours to top-up at around a 10% SoC per hour it would sure add a LOT hours to finally reach your destination. 

 

But if the EV battery is almost empty (and the driver can usually only blame himself for letting it get that low....and I not implying anything) then a 7KW wall charger slowly pumping out electrons is surely a big relief.....surely feels better than standing next to a dead EV along while calling for Roadside Assistance....while mentally cussing yourself out for letting the battery get too low.  

 

Best to find a DC charger of at least 50KW capability (preferably at least 100/120KW) so a person can top-up a lot faster....maybe even go from close to 0% to 100% SoC within an hour or so depending on your EV's charging curve capability...preaching to the choir I know.    Signing up with say at least three different major charging networks/apps like say PTT, PEA, EA Anywhere, EleXa, Altervim, ReverSharger, etc., is the way to go as their apps will provide the latest info/location of their AC and DC chargers.....Tony and Patrick's chargers will not be listed.  😀 

 

In my opinion if a person only signed up with "one" of the major charging networks/apps for long trips that one app should probably be PTT EV Station Pluz as PTT stations are pretty much everywhere.  Many of them have EV chargers (whether their main road sign show an EV Charging mini sign or not..be sure to use their app to find their chargers---don't just relay on EV Charger signs).   PTT is still adding more and more chargers at many of its stations and usually PTT stations are one of the best places to stop to take a bathroom break, get some food, maybe even a little shopping, etc....a lot of PTT are almost like small strip malls.   

 

But the PTT app don't have a Wallet/QR payment options....must pay with a debit/credit card...but they do accept Thai and foreign cards...and remember a charging app can't control the possibility of your "card-issuing bank" from declining a payment transaction even though you initially got the card successfully added as a payment option in the app.  But using a card issued by a Thai bank should be accepted 100% of the time assuming you initially get it loaded in the app as an approved payment option.   

 

Once again...preaching to the choir I know....this is really meant as cross-feed for others who are considering buying an EV and concerned about being able easily charge on long trips....what charging networks/apps are "customer-friendly, easy to use, etc."

 

 

[Andrew Dwyer]

1 hour ago, Pib said:

 

Yea...when using some website/app like Plug & Share or Charge Loma you can find MANY chargers listed that are small AC chargers (e.g., 7KW chargers) at small resorts/hotels, maybe a person's driveway, etc.,....just another way to hopefully make a few baht and provide a service to a customer.   But even those sites/apps don't list on the AC/DC chargers

 

 Like shown at the bottom some small resort north of Chiang Rai which has some wall chargers.  I expect no app is used....you just pay the charger owner directly, just added to your hotel bill, etc.  Places like this are fine like if staying at the resort, you plug-in over night, the 7KW wall charger will add about 10% SoC per hour, and come next morning as you check-out & continue your trip you have a full charge.  But for a "quick" charge as you drive along to your next destination, well, unless you want to set at a 7KW charger for hours & hours to top-up at around a 10% SoC per hour it would sure add a LOT hours to finally reach your destination. 

 

But if the EV battery is almost empty (and the driver can usually only blame himself for letting it get that low....and I not implying anything) then a 7KW wall charger slowly pumping out electrons is surely a big relief.....surely feels better than standing next to a dead EV along while calling for Roadside Assistance....while mentally cussing yourself out for letting the battery get too low.  

 

Best to find a DC charger of at least 50KW capability (preferably at least 100/120KW) so a person can top-up a lot faster....maybe even go from close to 0% to 100% SoC within an hour or so depending on your EV's charging curve capability...preaching to the choir I know.    Signing up with say at least three different major charging networks/apps like say PTT, PEA, EA Anywhere, EleXa, Altervim, ReverSharger, etc., is the way to go as their apps will provide the latest info/location of their AC and DC chargers.....Tony and Patrick's chargers will not be listed.  😀 

 

In my opinion if a person only signed up with "one" of the major charging networks/apps for long trips that one app should probably be PTT EV Station Pluz as PTT stations are pretty much everywhere.  Many of them have EV chargers (whether their main road sign show an EV Charging mini sign or not..be sure to use their app to find their chargers---don't just relay on EV Charger signs).   PTT is still adding more and more chargers at many of its stations and usually PTT stations are one of the best places to stop to take a bathroom break, get some food, maybe even a little shopping, etc....a lot of PTT are almost like small strip malls.   

 

But the PTT app don't have a Wallet/QR payment options....must pay with a debit/credit card...but they do accept Thai and foreign cards...and remember a charging app can't control the possibility of your "card-issuing bank" from declining a payment transaction even though you initially got the card successfully added as a payment option in the app.  But using a card issued by a Thai bank should be accepted 100% of the time assuming you initially get it loaded in the app as an approved payment option.   

 

Once again...preaching to the choir I know....this is really meant as cross-feed for others who are considering buying an EV and concerned about being able easily charge on long trips....what charging networks/apps are "customer-friendly, easy to use, etc."

 

 

Yes to all that, new EV owners need to be prepared to occasionally come across Altervim ( not entirely my fault as charger app listed the as 2 x 120 kw PEA chargers ) which showed to be problematic for payment for me .

 

Also, chancers, Tony and Patrick , who i since discovered are more involved in laundromat’s !!, in advertising at 22 kw AC when in reality the majority of EV will charge at 7 kw. ( maybe Audi, Porsche or BMW can achieve this here in Thailand ? ).

 

Anyway, it’s all good experience, just planned to top up a little while eating but at 7kw ( 6.4 kw actual ) wasn’t worth the effort. 
Note: i hadn’t seen the AC writing before and ‘er indoors was navigating us to what i thought was a EV PluZ Station ( that’s my excuse and i am sticking to it !! )

[Pib]

Tony and Patrick....an interesting company which apparently specializes in selling/setting up/maintaining laundrymat and EV charging locations for anybody (you, me, anybody) that wants to open a small laundry mat or EV charging location.    At their website they say they have opened over 20 charging locations in Thailand (one of them the Chiang Mai location in Andrew's above post).   More and more companies are offering this type of service where they sell/install/service a charging station that you might want to open at your main business, your house, an apartment building, out in the sticks, etc.  

 

https://www.tony-patrick.com/

https://www.tony-patrick.com/ev-charger

 

 

 

[JBChiangRai]

I charged my friends MG4 X-Power at the BYD dealership today on their fast DC Charger.

 

I couldn't use my 30,000 baht credit and had to pay for it (actually with her USA bank card).

 

I have a new k-bank card, in all respects identical to the last one that scammers got hold of, and it said my bank debit card is not supported, anybody else come across this?

[JBChiangRai]

Further to my last post, I’ve just had an email from Sharger to say that currently Kasikorn debit cards cannot be processed and please use a different bank card

[Pib]

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I charged my friends MG4 X-Power at the BYD dealership today on their fast DC Charger.

 

I couldn't use my 30,000 baht credit and had to pay for it (actually with her USA bank card).

 

I have a new k-bank card, in all respects identical to the last one that scammers got hold of, and it said my bank debit card is not supported, anybody else come across this?

The ReverSharger app did "not" accept my Bangkok Bank Mastercard debit card although the card is accepted in 5 other charging apps I use.   The ReverSharger app did accept both US credit cards I frequently use...and ReverSharger now has a Wallet where you can add funds via PromptPay which eliminates the need for any card unless you want to pay for charging via card vs via Wallet.

 

I expect you couldn't use BYD 30K credit because it's my understanding that credit is "linked to a specific VIN of a BYD vehicle you own;" can't just charge any EV like someone else's non-BYD vehicle "or"  probably even another BYD vehicle.

 

https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/news/friend-gets-friend-campaign

 

Quote

 

Campaign details as follows

• The Referring Customer must be the owner and/or possessor of a BYD electric vehicle, with the name as stated in the vehicle registration book of the vehicle used to claim the privilege, or as stated on the vehicle tax invoice in the case that the vehicle has not yet been registered (“Ownership Document”). The Referring Customer must agree and be able to provide details of the vehicle identification number (VIN Number) and personal information in order to receive the privilege under this campaign (“Existing Customer”).

 

[JBChiangRai]

I’m sure you’re right, in any event, I’m not about to translate all the instructions into English to find out.

 

I also have 1,000 baht charging credit on the Sharger app from the manufacturer of my previous German EV, I guess I’ll never be using that too.

 

[Pib]

52 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I’m sure you’re right, in any event, I’m not about to translate all the instructions into English to find out.

 

I assume the 30K privilege is already showing in your ReverSharger app which means you would have provided the necessary info already to include the VIN number of the BYD vehicle you own.   If the privilege is showing then it should just be a matter of charging that vehicle (vs another vehicle) to get the free charging (i.e., a credit deduction from the 30K)....and of course picking that specific privilege as the payment option.

[JBChiangRai]

I have used my ฿30,000 credit twice since 3 January, once in Chiang Mai and again in Chiang Rai, it’s no problem on my Seal, but even set as the default option in my wallet, it won’t let me use it for another vehicle.

[Andrew Dwyer]

I had envisioned using the cheaper rate on the gold rimmed red dot chargers on my road trip but it looks unlikely now, unless I grab a few reduced price electrons in a Kamphaeng Phet Bangchak pump.

Is it me or are very few dealers offering the 5.8 baht promotion ?

Ironically two Bangchak pumps nearest to my home are giving the discount while dealerships are nowhere to be seen !

 

But trusty old PEA Volta ( at the many Caltex pumps up here, scarce where I live ) has pulled me through so far and I had my first success ( after 13 months ) on a EV Station Pluz charger !

 

Tbh with around 550km range available I have charged few times away from home ( not counting the recent free charging ) and it has usually meant a quick charge at a PEA Volta or even PEA Authority if just wanting to ensure had enough to get home from the mil’s.

 

I had registered for EV Pluz and it accepted my Bangkok Bank Union Pay debit card but the only time i tried it, around a year ago, it was unsuccessful, think I fell foul of the booking rule.

Anyway, yesterday i passed one of the many PTT pumps with EV sign and called in on a whim ( planned to stop at a Bangchak today ), a quick check to see it was available ( blue symbol on the app ) and away we went charging at 115 kWh  !

Had been slightly reluctant about EV Pluz due to the booking rule but kicking myself for not trying earlier in the week !!

The direct debit from BB account definitely a plus !

 

So, with PEA ( wallet), Revercharger ( wallet ) and EV Pluz ( debit card ) am covered ☺️

[Pib]

2 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I had envisioned using the cheaper rate on the gold rimmed red dot chargers on my road trip but it looks unlikely now, unless I grab a few reduced price electrons in a Kamphaeng Phet Bangchak pump.

Is it me or are very few dealers offering the 5.8 baht promotion ?

Ironically two Bangchak pumps nearest to my home are giving the discount while dealerships are nowhere to be seen !

 

 

Since the ReverSharger app/network includes Bangchak, Shell, Susco, and BYD Dealerships who can set their own prices/KWH and date/time for charging I expect Bangchak was the only ReverSharger partner that wanted to be involved in the promotion....another way to get people to visit Bangchak stations.   Heck, even for me when driving my ICEV Fortuner I would rarely stop at any other dino fuel station other than PTT.   

 

But after visiting several Bangchak stations during the free electrons promotion and experiencing how many of those stations have nice facilities I may start using them occasionally to feed my Fortuner diesel fuel.   But since I now only drive the Fortuner a little bit each month (25-100Km...more like only 25km) just to circulate the fluids/exercise the ICEV a little I now use very little dino fuel...only keep about a quarter of a tank in the ICEV to avoid the fuel from getting stale while "immediately" having enough to do a no-notice/emergency 100Km trip without stopping to first fuel up.   

 

Yea....I'm going to guess Bangchak is doing this just to draw in more EV customers.....with many  of these EV customers also having another vehicle such as a ICEV that drinks dino fuel.  

[Yodarapper]

For a NEWBIE and soon to be EV owner, what apps do I need? Where can I charge?

 

I don;t want the family cross at me!

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Yodarapper said:

For a NEWBIE and soon to be EV owner, what apps do I need? Where can I charge?

 

I don;t want the family cross at me!

We predominately use these when O&A (out & about), EV Pluz & PEA

... EV Station Pluz, most at PTT Parks, so very convenient, nice toilets, usually a food court & vendors, along with 7-11 and sometimes a KFC.

... PEA, usually at Banchak petrol stations.  Also clean toilets, though most stations aren't in the caliber of PTT Parks, but slowly changing with new additions.  All have a coffee shop, which is OK.

... Elexa, have used, and quite nice, as it was connected with a very nice restaurant/coffee shop.  Fast charge.

... EA Anywhere, lots of charging station, and you'll find at malls also.  Have not used yet, only tested to make sure we know how.

 

edit (thanks @Pib) ... we also have Altervim, which are located at Lotus's, (maybe elsewhere) so that's handle for killing time, toilet, use vendor, pick up some snacks (for hotel stay), or grab a munch.

 

DO NOT register for eVolt, as very few are fast chargers, and when we did, only pay options was debit from their app, which we put 1000 baht on, and have yet to use any of it 🤬

 

Apps for those vendors are user friendly, and provide info, map, if available or not, and some, like EV Station Pluz, can reserve a time slot before arriving.

 

We also have MG, but restricted to owners of, or having their access card.  Use them ofter, when EV Pluz or PEA isn't available.

 

All quite easy to use, just do a tester, with each, before going out on the road.   Always know where your next CS is located, in case you pull in, and the CS you are at, is inop.  Only happened once to us, in over 2 yrs, and next one was 12 kms up the road.

[Pib]

1 hour ago, Yodarapper said:

For a NEWBIE and soon to be EV owner, what apps do I need? Where can I charge?

 

I don;t want the family cross at me!

Recommend the following charging apps/networks....these six networks provided the great majority of DC Fast Chargers in Thailand....and plenty of low power AC chargers also.   Definitely signup for the first two listed below...I would recommend signing up for at least 3 to ensure you have good coverage across Thailand.  I'm signed up with all six.   The apps will show you where the chargers are....some of the apps will so the locations even without signing up.  

1.  PTT  EV Station PluZ  (PTT stations are everywhere....and many have a EV charger...more being added)

2.  PEA Volta  (PEA has lots of chargers in the provinces...not many in Bangkok)

3.  EA Anywhere  

4.  ReverSharger

5.  Altervim

6.  EleXA

 

[Pib]

 

Below  Jun 2024 Electric Vehicle Association of Thailand listing of EV charging networks/chargers in Thai is somewhat dated now and does not show all charging networks but it will give you a good idea of which networks have the most chargers, especially DC Fast Chargers.  

 

https://evat.or.th/images/evinfo/current-status/cover/2.jpg

[KhunLA]

6 minutes ago, Pib said:

 

Below  Jun 2024 Electric Vehicle Association of Thailand listing of EV charging networks/chargers in Thai is somewhat dated now and does not show all charging networks but it will give you a good idea of which networks have the most chargers, especially DC Fast Chargers.  

 

https://evat.or.th/images/evinfo/current-status/cover/2.jpg

Not on the list ... MG Super Chargers, and probably about 150 units now, and MG tries to have one, at least every 150 kms, which is actually fairly accurate, as have used or seen them, when looking for our next CS.  Most at the dealers, and can reserve for free, 15 minutes before arrival.

 

Restricted use to MG owners, or members of, which usually requires owning an MG at one time.

[JBChiangRai]

3 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Not on the list ... MG Super Chargers, and probably about 150 units now, and MG tries to have one, at least every 150 kms, which is actually fairly accurate, as have used or seen them, when looking for our next CS.  Most at the dealers, and can reserve for free, 15 minutes before arrival.

 

Restricted use to MG owners, or members of, which usually requires owning an MG at one time.

 

You are supposed to be able to buy a card from MG to allow you to use these superchargers, good luck with that.

 

Just like ReverSharger, these MG chargers a clone of another well known type, at our local dealer it's only 50Kw however.

[Yodarapper]

I will have a BYD ATTO3 does that impact which chargers are best for me?

[KhunLA]

50 minutes ago, Yodarapper said:

I will have a BYD ATTO3 does that impact which chargers are best for me?

No.  All the CS vendors we've recommended with have a cable that works for Atto 3.  Only difference will be, how fast will it charge.  Almost all will provide at least 50kWh, as the sort of break point to be called fast.

 

Usually next step down, is 22kWh, then 11kWh, usually 7kWh for home wall charging cables, and what many of use, that have solar ~2.3kWh emergency or granny charger that comes with the car.

 

What matters is, what your car will accept.  Our MG ZS will only accept up to 76kWh, so those super 120 or 150/175kWh charging cable are no advantage for us.

 

Of course if the new Atto 3 will accept one of those 120 or more charging cable, then yes, if one is convenient, then that would work better.  Good luck with that though.

 

We only used a few, where it was noticeably faster.  Seriously, 50 or 75kWh, isn't going save us that much time charging, unless we ran it down to 20% or less.   We usually charge at ~30%, back up 90-95%, so 27kWh/60%.   All things equal, ~30 mins vs ~20 mins.  

 

Most times irrelevant, as car back to 90% before we're done doing whatever, as it's usually a munch stop anyway. since on the road for 3+ hours already.

 

Best will be the one closest, when you have to P, and if it as food also ... win win 

[Pib]

1 hour ago, Yodarapper said:

I will have a BYD ATTO3 does that impact which chargers are best for me?

 

No.  EVs now sold in Thailand use the CCS2 connector (you can google about that if needing to know more)....just use any charger that offers a CCS2 connection which handles AC and DC charging.  A few chargers still exist in Thailand that may also have a Chademo connector which is a connector primarily used in Japan/some Japanese EVs sold in Thailand before....you can't use a Chademo connector....just be sure its a CCS2 connector which is probably comprises 95% of the DC Fast Charger connectors in Thailand.  The charging app used will tell you what type of connector the charger has such as AC, DC, CCS2, Chademo, etc.   It will make more sense once you play around with the charging apps a little.  

 

Now one thing about "all" EVs is they have varying battery "charging curve"....that is, the traction battery will charge at a certain rate based on its current SoC.   It will charge much faster at lower SOC than at higher SOC charge....just like your smartphone charges faster at lower SoC and at higher SoC the charging rate will slow down----it's simply how batteries operate whether it's an EV battery, smartphone battery, etc,   

 

The maximum charge rate for an Atto is approx 88KW (I've go a little over 89KW before on my Atto) but that only occurs from about 5 to 60% SoC....then the max charging rate will drop to around 57KW up to around 85%.....then it will drop down to around 32K max up to 100%.   So, even if you were the only person charging at a 120KW DC charger you would not get 120KW because the Atto will only ask the charger for a certain charge rate based on the EV battery SoC charging curve.  BYD vehicles use a "staircase" type charging curve where other EV brands may use a more linear curve vs steps.    See below website for more info on EV charging curves.   

 

And one thing to note if you plug into a 50KW charger and you are the only one at that charger do "not" expect to see a charge rate of 88KW or 57KW regardless of your current SoC because the Atto and charger will come to agreement on approx 32KW (not 50KW, not 45KW, etc) because of the Atto's staircase charging curve.   Avoid 50KW chargers if you want to charge faster....be sure to use a 120KW charger which can provide 60KW to each connector if two EVs are connected and up to 120KW if only one EV is connected.   If you use a 50KW DC charger you will only get a 32KW charge rate even if you are at a low SoC where you could get up to 88KW "if", repeat, if you were using a DC charger that can provide at least 88KW.   The app being used will typically tell you the charger's KW rating.

 

https://evkx.net/models/byd/atto_3/atto_3/chargingcurve/

 

[KhunLA]

Current PEA off peak rate ฿5.7 / kWh

That's not much different from home rate of heavy electric user.

 

[Gweiloman]

44 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Current PEA off peak rate ฿5.7 / kWh

That's not much different from home rate of heavy electric user.

 

Significantly more than my TOU off peak rate of Thb 3. Fortunately, as most of us know, most of our charging is done at home 😁

[Bandersnatch]

Looking for some advice from roadtrip warriors here.

 

My Seal's claimed range of 580km has proved sufficient for all my trips so far. I did some test charging when I got the car in 2023 but have charged from my home solar since then.

 

Recently took flights Buriram-BKK-Krabi return and it was a really unpleasant experience from the booking, hidden charges, busy airports and cramped seats. 

 

I have to be in BKK on Tuesday morning so I have decided to drive from Surin to Suvarnabhumi, park in Long Stay and rail link into the city then stay in a 4 star hotel overnight which is far cheaper than return flights for 2.

 

Was hoping to try out the ReverSharger app or in-car navigation to route plan with one charge stop each way and one stop for lunch 

 

ReverSharger gives me a list of charging stations on it's suggested route but when I selected a BYD dealership, it creates a trip to that location and it seems I have to repeat the exercise for my next stop.

 

Is this everyone else's experience?

 

 

 

[josephbloggs]

23 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

I have to be in BKK on Tuesday morning so I have decided to drive from Surin to Suvarnabhumi, park in Long Stay and rail link into the city then stay in a 4 star hotel overnight which is far cheaper than return flights for 2.

 

Can't help you with your main questions but I would say if you are only staying overnight then don't use the long term car park. Just park in the regular short stay car park. It is only 250 baht per 24 hours, it is covered, it is connected directly to the terminal.  Long term parking is remote from the terminal, not covered, and you have to wait for shuttle buses. And at 140 baht per 24 hours you're only saving 110 baht per day but adding a ton of inconvenience.

If you are not familiar with it you enter on the 5th floor. Don't think about trying to park there as that is where the bridge to the terminal is so everyone tries to park there. Just go straight down one or two floors and there is loads of parking.

Good luck with the journey!

[Bandersnatch]

40 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

at 140 baht per 24 hours you're only saving 110 baht per day but adding a ton of inconvenience.

 

Good point well made.

I will be following your suggestion, many thanks 

[Andrew Dwyer]

1 hour ago, Bandersnatch said:

Looking for some advice from roadtrip warriors here.

 

My Seal's claimed range of 580km has proved sufficient for all my trips so far. I did some test charging when I got the car in 2023 but have charged from my home solar since then.

 

Recently took flights Buriram-BKK-Krabi return and it was a really unpleasant experience from the booking, hidden charges, busy airports and cramped seats. 

 

I have to be in BKK on Tuesday morning so I have decided to drive from Surin to Suvarnabhumi, park in Long Stay and rail link into the city then stay in a 4 star hotel overnight which is far cheaper than return flights for 2.

 

Was hoping to try out the ReverSharger app or in-car navigation to route plan with one charge stop each way and one stop for lunch 

 

ReverSharger gives me a list of charging stations on it's suggested route but when I selected a BYD dealership, it creates a trip to that location and it seems I have to repeat the exercise for my next stop.

 

Is this everyone else's experience?

 

 

 

Haven’t tried to route plan with the ReverSharger app but i don’t see this option there is “ Plan trip “ but doesn’t appear to allow a stop inbetween so in effect is like the “ Navigate “ button.

 

I would use either Google Maps, Waze or ABRP ( A Better Route Planner ) to plan your route from your phone via Android Auto ( I believe you have gone Samsung now ).

 

The Seal Navigation is pretty poor imho:

Initially i liked it as the interface was great and the shortcut button to bring up chargers was very handy. But it did struggle to find places and I reverted to Google Maps.

 

Recently the car has had a dealer update ( 2407 now ) and the SIM has been changed, along with this the Seal Navigation had an update.

Gone is the charger shortcut button, it is now buried in settings, the interface has changed but is neither better nor worse imho.

Worse though is the actual Navigation functionality:

On a recent road trip i typed in The White Temple in Chiang Rai whilst in Chiang Mai , drove some 180 km and the little lady exclaimed “ turn in here “ ! while the Navigation claimed i had 13 km to go !! putting it down to an error in my typing ( maybe i was headed to the White Temple café or Hotel ? ) i let it slide.

The next tourist stop was Wat Huay Pla Kang, stopped at a traffic light the Navigation was sending me 5 km to the right when the actual Wat 

 

 

was there to the left ( hard to miss ) !, curious i followed the Navigation and it took me away from my intended destination, announcing “ you have arrived at your destination “ in the middle of a random street  some 5 km away.

Needless to say i used Google Maps from then on with zero problems as the BYD Seal Navigation seems to be somewhat “ off “ !

[Bandersnatch]

13 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Haven’t tried to route plan with the ReverSharger app but i don’t see this option there is “ Plan trip “ but doesn’t appear to allow a stop inbetween so in effect is like the “ Navigate “ button.

 

I would use either Google Maps, Waze or ABRP ( A Better Route Planner ) to plan your route from your phone via Android Auto ( I believe you have gone Samsung now ).

 

Thanks, I will probably use the BYD app purely for charging location suggestions and use ABRP/ Google Maps for navigation

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14 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Haven’t tried to route plan with the ReverSharger app but i don’t see this option there is “ Plan trip “ but doesn’t appear to allow a stop inbetween so in effect is like the “ Navigate “ button.

 

I would use either Google Maps, Waze or ABRP ( A Better Route Planner ) to plan your route from your phone via Android Auto ( I believe you have gone Samsung now ).

 

The Seal Navigation is pretty poor imho:

Initially i liked it as the interface was great and the shortcut button to bring up chargers was very handy. But it did struggle to find places and I reverted to Google Maps.

 

Recently the car has had a dealer update ( 2407 now ) and the SIM has been changed, along with this the Seal Navigation had an update.

Gone is the charger shortcut button, it is now buried in settings, the interface has changed but is neither better nor worse imho.

Worse though is the actual Navigation functionality:

On a recent road trip i typed in The White Temple in Chiang Rai whilst in Chiang Mai , drove some 180 km and the little lady exclaimed “ turn in here “ ! while the Navigation claimed i had 13 km to go !! putting it down to an error in my typing ( maybe i was headed to the White Temple café or Hotel ? ) i let it slide.

The next tourist stop was Wat Huay Pla Kang, stopped at a traffic light the Navigation was sending me 5 km to the right when the actual Wat 

 

 

was there to the left ( hard to miss ) !, curious i followed the Navigation and it took me away from my intended destination, announcing “ you have arrived at your destination “ in the middle of a random street  some 5 km away.

Needless to say i used Google Maps from then on with zero problems as the BYD Seal Navigation seems to be somewhat “ off “ !

I think that's true of most manufacturers' own navigation platforms. My Volvo's in-built navigation is useless, it can't find anything you want. And it's route planner always seems worse than what Google suggests. The only good thing about it is lane guidance and turn by turn instructions appear in the driver binnacle display but that's useless when the actual navigation is useless. Think I've used it twice but since then always use Google as it is infinitely better. (Newer Volvos have Google built in and they scrapped their own system).

Not sure why manufacturers still try to do their own navigation.