Jeremy Clarkson says he is 'horrified' over Meghan column

[damian]

Many spew their hatered for Markel on a superficial level but noone seems to want to talk about the dark relationship the 'firm' has with the media and how manipulative that is. Aside from the theatrics, tears and daytime tv drama, this was the underlying theme of the doco. 

[xtrnuno41]

Well he stated, he hated her way much more then Fred & Rose West.

And those were killers of at least 12 young girls.

He also stated, her to walk naked in every English village, while people would be shouting "shame on you" and throw feces at her.

Then I start to wonder if Jeremy is sane.

I know his ego is really big, but looks now he is out of line from hate.

 

[Bluespunk]

  On 12/20/2022 at 1:39 AM, JonnyF said:

You're right. He isn't really sorry at all, nor should he be.

 

When you have the audactity to mock the traditions of another country that you clearly don't understand, your ignorance and bigotry deserves to be ridiculed - so no sympathy for Markle on this one.

 

Nice one Jezza. ????

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Yeah, right sure.
 

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[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:06 AM, xtrnuno41 said:

Well he stated, he hated her way much more then Fred & Rose West.

And those were killers of at least 12 young girls.

 

 

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He didn't exactly say that , what he said was :  

"Elsewhere in the article, Clarkson compared his hatred of Meghan with that of Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon.

He said: "Meghan, though, is a different story. I hate her. Not like I hate Nicola Sturgeon or Rose West. I hate her on a cellular level."

 

   I am not too sure what cellular level means myself

[Bluespunk]

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:20 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

He didn't exactly say that , what he said was :  

"Elsewhere in the article, Clarkson compared his hatred of Meghan with that of Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon.

He said: "Meghan, though, is a different story. I hate her. Not like I hate Nicola Sturgeon or Rose West. I hate her on a cellular level."

 

   I am not too sure what cellular level means myself

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As your previous paragraph makes clear. 

[Lemsta69]

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:20 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

He didn't exactly say that , what he said was :  

"Elsewhere in the article, Clarkson compared his hatred of Meghan with that of Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon.

He said: "Meghan, though, is a different story. I hate her. Not like I hate Nicola Sturgeon or Rose West. I hate her on a cellular level."

 

   I am not too sure what cellular level means myself

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I think what he means is "I'd like to get into her pants but I'm fat and old and I'm a gobby #@£& so I have no chance, better to pretend I hate her instead".

[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:27 AM, Lemsta69 said:

I think what he means is "I'd like to get into her pants but I'm fat and old and I'm a gobby #@£& so I have no chance, better to pretend I hate her instead".

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I am quite sure that he doesn't want to be in a sexual relationship with her, he genuinely dislikes her 

[Doctor Tom]

  On 12/20/2022 at 2:42 AM, Lacessit said:

Can we please stop giving this wretched, dysfunctional family oxygen?

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I dont know one family that isn't in some way dysfunctional.  Their problem is that the media are all over them 24/7/365. How many of us ordinary folk would be able to cope with that kind of intrusive examination? 

[JonnyF]

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:12 AM, Bluespunk said:

Yeah, right sure.
 

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Which part of my post do you disagree with? Care to elaborate?

 

Or have you been reduced to just posting facetious, vacous comments now?

[Rimmer]

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[Lemsta69]

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:29 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

I am quite sure that he doesn't want to be in a sexual relationship with her, he genuinely dislikes her 

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Why's that do you reckon? Because she gets more press than him?

[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:42 AM, Lemsta69 said:

Why's that do you reckon? Because she gets more press than him?

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Well no, that isn't the reason , both Clarkson and Megan are already in   relationships and because he doesn't like her at all , he wouldn't want to be in a relationship with her 

[Bluespunk]

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:34 AM, JonnyF said:

Which part of my post do you disagree with? Care to elaborate?

 

Or have you been reduced to just posting facetious, vacous comments now?

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While your posts deserve the type of reply you refer to, nope. 

 

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:12 AM, Bluespunk said:

When you have the audactity to mock the traditions of another country that you clearly don't understand, your ignorance and bigotry deserves to be ridiculed - so no sympathy for Markle on this one.

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All of the above is nonsense. You don’t like that Meghan Markle has exposed behaviours that she felt to be based in prejudice, so you try to misrepresent these and deflect from them by falsely claiming that traditions are being mocked and that she is engaging in racist behaviour by discussing how she was treated. 
 

All that you said can be basically summed up by ☕️

[Bluespunk]

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:34 AM, JonnyF said:

Which part of my post do you disagree with? Care to elaborate?

 

Or have you been reduced to just posting facetious, vacous comments now?

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While your posts deserve the type of reply you refer to, nope. 

 

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:12 AM, Bluespunk said:

When you have the audactity to mock the traditions of another country that you clearly don't understand, your ignorance and bigotry deserves to be ridiculed - so no sympathy for Markle on this one.

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All of the above is nonsense. You don’t like that Meghan Markle has exposed behaviours that she felt to be based in prejudice, so you try to misrepresent these and deflect from them by falsely claiming that traditions are being mocked and that she is engaging in racist behaviour by discussing how she was treated. 
 

All that you said can be basically summed up by ☕️

[Tropposurfer]

B@gger off and go play on your farm you Paddington Bear inheritance millionaire <deleted>.... @#^%)!>?_%#$@ (self-censored)

[VocalNeal]

  On 12/20/2022 at 1:27 AM, Credo said:

They have exposed the racist underbelly of the nation

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Have you been to London lately???? About 50% of the people don't have Anglo-Saxon ancestry. It is one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world. 

[JonnyF]

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:56 AM, Bluespunk said:

While your posts deserve the type of reply you refer to, nope. 

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Always best to avoid questions you have no answer to, I suppose.

 

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:56 AM, Bluespunk said:

 

All of the above is nonsense. You don’t like that Meghan Markle has exposed behaviours that she felt to be based in prejudice, so you try to misrepresent these and deflect from them by falsely claiming that traditions are being mocked and that she is engaging in racist behaviour by discussing how she was treated. 

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She was mocking the traditions of curtseying the Queen, calling our traditions Medieval while laughing at them. If a white British person mocked the traditions of an African culture in such a way you would call it racist, ignorant and insulting. Your double standards are there for all to see and have been well and truly exposed.

 

  On 12/20/2022 at 3:56 AM, Bluespunk said:

 

All that you said can be basically summed up by ☕️

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A birthday cake? Thanks, but you're a few months late.

[Bluespunk]

  On 12/20/2022 at 4:05 AM, JonnyF said:

Always best to avoid questions you have no answer to, I suppose.

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No, wasn’t doing any such thing as I answered the question…

 

  On 12/20/2022 at 4:05 AM, JonnyF said:

She was mocking the traditions of curtseying the Queen, calling our traditions Medieval while laughing at them. If a white British person mocked the traditions of an African culture in such a way you would call it racist, ignorant and insulting. Your double standards are there for all to see and have been well and truly exposed

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She mocked nothing. And as many of the traditions do date back centuries, saying they are medieval is not inaccurate. Your final sentence here is nonsense, but typical of you. 

 

  On 12/20/2022 at 4:05 AM, JonnyF said:

A birthday cake? Thanks, but you're a few months late.

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Sorry meant to post a coffee cup, keeps turning to a cake when I do so. No idea why. 

[JonnyF]

  On 12/20/2022 at 4:05 AM, VocalNeal said:

Have you been to London lately???? About 50% of the people don't have Anglo-Saxon ancestry. It is one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world. 

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Ironically, many of the non-whites in London are racist and/or anti-semitic. So maybe he has a point ????.

 

I highly doubt there is much racism in the champagne socialist, Guardian reading, gentrified areas where white people still make up the majority though.

[JonnyF]

  On 12/20/2022 at 4:09 AM, Bluespunk said:

She mocked nothing. Your final sentence here is nonsense, but typical of you. 

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Of course she mocked it. You are gaslighting again.

 

 

If she can't take it, she shouldn't dish it out. 

[brianthainess]

''Everyone my age thinks the same'' he said  ????  OIY Clarkson you <deleted> no they don't 

He also said he lays awake at night grinding his teeth dreaming of the day Megan is paraded through the streets naked of every town. ???? what a weirdo he is.

I feel sorry for his daughter how embarrassing to have a such a dinosaur as a dad.  

[Mac Mickmanus]

  On 12/20/2022 at 1:27 AM, Credo said:

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are an admirable couple.  They have exposed the racist underbelly of the nation and the misogyny that is so abundant and evident even on this forum. 

 

I suspect the rifts in the Royal Family will heal with time, and they are likely to begin to understand the many ways they have contributed to an endemic problem of racism.  Hopefully, they will lead from the top.   

 

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Clarkson doesn't like Megan because of her actions and her behaviour , its nothing to do with her race or gender .

[Bluespunk]

  On 12/20/2022 at 4:12 AM, JonnyF said:

Of course she mocked it. You are gaslighting again.

 

 

If she can't take it, she shouldn't dish it out. 

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That picture doesn’t back up your claim as it appears to show someone expressing personal embarrassment, which isn’t mocking as far as I’m concerned. But I can see why you and it appears many others would choose to portray it as such. 

[cowellandrew]

  On 12/20/2022 at 1:27 AM, Credo said:

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are an admirable couple.  They have exposed the racist underbelly of the nation and the misogyny that is so abundant and evident even on this forum. 

 

I suspect the rifts in the Royal Family will heal with time, and they are likely to begin to understand the many ways they have contributed to an endemic problem of racism.  Hopefully, they will lead from the top.   

 

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What a load of nonsense!

Try and see racism in Thailand, start with the 2 tier prices!

 

[JonnyF]

  On 12/20/2022 at 4:16 AM, Bluespunk said:

That picture doesn’t back up your claim as it appears to show someone expressing personal embarrassment, which isn’t mocking as far as I’m concerned. But I can see why you would choose to portray it as such. 

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Watch it from 1 minute on. Pay attention to Meghan's mocking and Harry's embarrassment. 

 

If you can't see that is mocking behaviour, either you are gaslighting (most likely), or you genuinely lack the ability to interpret human behaviour, body language and responses to them.

 

 

 

[Bluespunk]

  On 12/20/2022 at 4:22 AM, JonnyF said:

Watch it from 1 minute on. Pay attention to Meghan's mocking and Harry's embarrassment. 

 

If you can't see that is mocking behaviour, either you are gaslighting (most likely), or you genuinely lack the ability to interpret human behaviour, body language and responses to them.

 

 

 

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Or I genuinely see it as expressing personal embarrassment. 
 

PS: I’ve seen the clip elsewhere. 
 

Edit: I grant you she doesn’t come across well in that clip (and elsewhere) but I still don’t see it as mockery. 

[couchpotato]

  On 12/20/2022 at 4:13 AM, brianthainess said:

''Everyone my age thinks the same'' he said  ????  OIY Clarkson you <deleted> no they don't 

He also said he lays awake at night grinding his teeth dreaming of the day Megan is paraded through the streets naked of every town. ???? what a weirdo he is.

I feel sorry for his daughter how embarrassing to have a such a dinosaur as a dad.  

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His time is finished--should retire gracefully to his farm. Take P. Morgan with him...milk the cows together.

[JonnyF]

  On 12/20/2022 at 4:25 AM, Bluespunk said:

Or I genuinely see it as expressing personal embarrassment. 
 

PS: I’ve seen the clip elsewhere. 
 

Edit: I grant you she doesn’t come across well in that clip (and elsewhere) but I still don’t see it as mockery. 

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If you genuinely can't identify that behaviour as mockery, I genuinely sympathize. Emotional Intelligence can vary greatly between individuals.

 

[Bluespunk]

  On 12/20/2022 at 4:34 AM, JonnyF said:

If you genuinely can't identify that behaviour as mockery, I genuinely sympathize. Emotional Intelligence can vary greatly between individuals.

 

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As you choosing to see mockery proves. 
 

Edit: just to be clear I like none of those involved in the current infighting within the windsor family. 

[newnative]

  On 12/20/2022 at 2:29 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Let's not forget the repeated allegations that she abused her staff. Such behaviour from a Royal toward lowly servants is certainly dishonourable. 

 

"The anonymous staffer is quoted as saying, “Every ten minutes, I had to go outside to be screamed at by her and Harry. It was, ‘I can’t believe you’ve done this. You’ve let me down. What were you thinking?’ It went on for a couple of hours.”

The staffer alleged the calls continued “for days,” adding, “You could not escape them. There were no lines or boundaries—it was last thing at night, first thing in the morning.”

Another source tells Low, “There were a lot of broken people. Young women were broken by their behavior.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/meghan-markle-screamed-at-staff-left-them-broken-and-shaking-with-fear-new-book-claims

 

Not exactly what I would call honourable behavior.

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    Good grief. That old prattle?  What nonsense--trumped up, marginal charges served up by the Palace to show Megan in a bad light.  Worse case, she was a demanding boss expecting competence in her staff--always greatly admired in a man but treated with scorn and condemned if it's a woman.  Look at King Charles and his bad behavior to his staff in public--if that's what he's like with the cameras on, what's he like in private with no cameras rolling?   He gets a pass; Megan is condemned, with no Palace support at all.  Well, no, since the Palace leaked the negative story in the first place. 

    If the staff job is too demanding for you to handle, if you can't take criticism when you screw up, or if you don't like your boss, don't whine, quit and find something else to do.  And, maybe next time act professionally and honor the nondisclosure clause in your employment contract.

     The incident did serve to show the beginning of the end for H&M.  They had become way too popular--junior royals must not outshine senior royals, it's as simple as that.  In short order, out come the negative stories, many from the Palace itself, starting with this one--which the Palace should have squashed from the get go--and would have if it was a senior royal. 

   And, so began negative story after negative story on anything and everything--most of which could have also been spun positively:   How dare she so blatantly flaunt her pregnancy by cradling her baby bump!  The absolute nerve!  Or:  How Adorable!  Look how she is gently, naturally cradling her baby bump!  So loving!   Seriously, you know you're in deep kimchi when something as trivial as that becomes a big, negative story.   Add hundreds more, most made up or seen only negatively, and that was that.  Everything from her baby shower to assisting with the publishing of a cookbook was portrayed in the worst light possible.  As an American, I hadn't been following things that closely but the H&M series has been a real eye-opener.   

      It's interesting that very little in the H&M series has been disputed by the Palace--which they would if they could, as they have quickly done in the past.  The one time they did try to dispute--on whether the Palace was contacted for comment--turned into a train wreck.  First, they said the Palace had not been contacted, then backtracked and said the Palace had been contacted but they didn't know who it was, and, finally, they came clean and said, yes, the Palace had been contacted by the producers.  Makes you wonder what sort of boobs are working there.  In any case, caught in an embarrassing lie on that one.  Not the first time and surely not the last.