January 6 committee releases final report, says Trump should be barred from office

[dotcalm]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Calm down dotcalm. Where's your evidence that  "The FBI INTERFERED in the 2020 election!" Credible links please

Try starting with the Twitter Files-Matt Taiibbi, and the scheme to suppress the HunterBiden laptop story on twitter. Unless you are domiciled in a cave in Afghanistan then you may have heard the news about that by now. If you have your face glued to the regime media you ain't getting the truth as you probably already know.

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/12/the-twitter-files-miss-the-real-scandal-fbi-interference-in-the-2020-election/amp/

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, dotcalm said:

Try starting with the Twitter Files-Matt Taiibbi, and the scheme to suppress the HunterBiden laptop story on twitter. Unless you are domiciled in a cave in Afghanistan then you may have heard the news about that by now. If you have your face glued to the regime media you ain't getting the truth as you probably already know.

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/12/the-twitter-files-miss-the-real-scandal-fbi-interference-in-the-2020-election/amp/

Matt Tabbi......lol

 

Hello! You’ve Been Referred Here Because You’re Wrong About Twitter And Hunter Biden’s Laptop

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/07/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-twitter-and-hunter-bidens-laptop/

[dotcalm]

14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

B/S

No, The FBI Is NOT ‘Paying Twitter To Censor’

This would be a big scandal if true. But, it’s not. It’s just flat out wrong.

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/20/no-the-fbi-is-not-paying-twitter-to-censor/

 

check it out, (avoid fake news regime media sources)

https://nypost.com/2022/12/19/fbi-reimbursed-twitter-for-doing-its-dirty-work-on-users/

 

https://www.newsweek.com/did-fbi-pay-twitter-censor-content-elon-musk-claims-what-we-know-1769048

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, dotcalm said:

check it out, (avoid fake news regime media sources)

https://nypost.com/2022/12/19/fbi-reimbursed-twitter-for-doing-its-dirty-work-on-users/

"So, there’s no evidence of censorship. But what about these payments? Well, that’s Musk’s hand-chosen reporters, Musk himself, and his fans totally misunderstanding some very basic stuff that any serious reporter with knowledge of the law would not mess up."

 

[dotcalm]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Matt Tabbi......lol

 

Hello! You’ve Been Referred Here Because You’re Wrong About Twitter And Hunter Biden’s Laptop

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/07/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-twitter-and-hunter-bidens-laptop/

polls show 16% of voters would not have voted for Biden if they knew about the laptop story.

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/alexander-watson/poll-shows-media-censorship-cheated-voters-vital-info-robbed

https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-poll/

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/11/28/heres-how-may-biden-voters-who-would-have-bolted-from-joe-if-the-media-did-their-n2580624?__cf_chl_tk=LS8Cs6ioRhJ_KizQnZqU3Lp7DOEDA8dY6Ts1Wudt0Po-1671978337-0-gaNycGzNCBE

[dotcalm]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So, there’s no evidence of censorship

The FBI pressured Twitter to suppress The Post’s blockbuster scoop about Hunter Biden’s laptop by warning it could be part of a Russian “hack and leak” operation — even while knowing the concern was unfounded, according to internal company records made public Monday.

https://nypost.com/2022/12/19/fbi-reached-out-to-twitter-before-post-broke-hunter-biden-laptop-story/

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3 hours ago, dotcalm said:

It’s quite peculiar (more like pathetic) how the J6 committee presented  evidence about what what an official failed to do and the last hearing seemed to focus on a number of things that did not occur, from a draft tweet that was not sent to an executive order that was never signed. There were discussions of appointing Trump attorney Sidney Powell as a special counsel, seizing voting machines or replacing the Justice Department’s leadership. It is a bizarre list, but it is also notable in that no final action was taken on such proposals.
However, while repeatedly omitted by the Committee, Trump told his supporters to go to the Capitol “peacefully” to support Republicans challenging the election. At 1:11 p.m., Trump concluded his speech. Around 2:10 p.m., people surged up the Capitol steps. At 4:17 p.m., Trump made his statement to stop — roughly an hour and a half later.
And as usual the regime media also downplayed the glaring failure of the J6 Committee to produce what it described as bombshell evidence of a criminal conspiracy by Trump. Members like Rep. Adam Schiff (D., Ca.) repeatedly promised that the next hearing would reveal such direct evidence only to have the same rehashing of the prior claims for prosecution.
Despite the broad condemnation of Trump for his speech and conduct on that day, there is a difference between what is viewed as questionable behavior and what is chargeable as criminal conduct.

Trump's Culpability Revealed by 'One Smoking Gun' in Jan. 6 Report: Lawyer

 "One smoking gun so far is a call that Trump makes to the head of the RNC, Ronna McDaniel, at the time, and he hands over the call to [legal adviser] John Eastman to say, 'We want you to organize the false slate of electors.' That's all we had in the past. We now know she calls Donald Trump back soon after the call and says, 'I accept your request,' which it's about him, it's not about Eastman."

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-culpability-revealed-one-smoking-gun-jan-6-report-lawyer-1769514

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, dotcalm said:

polls show 16% of voters would not have voted for Biden if they knew about the laptop story.

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/alexander-watson/poll-shows-media-censorship-cheated-voters-vital-info-robbed

https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/2020-election-outcome-would-differ-with-hunter-biden-laptop-coverage-poll/

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/11/28/heres-how-may-biden-voters-who-would-have-bolted-from-joe-if-the-media-did-their-n2580624?__cf_chl_tk=LS8Cs6ioRhJ_KizQnZqU3Lp7DOEDA8dY6Ts1Wudt0Po-1671978337-0-gaNycGzNCBE

Whats that got to do with the actual evidence presented in the link I posted? Did you actually bother to read it all, I admit it runs to a few thousand words with charts.........lol

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, dotcalm said:

The FBI's Response to the Twitter Files Is Not Going Over Well

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/12/22/the-fbis-response-to-the-twitter-files-is-not-going-over-well-n2617462

Here is their exact response, whats not going well?

 

"The correspondence between the FBI and Twitter show nothing more than examples of our traditional, longstanding and ongoing federal government and private sector engagements, which involve numerous companies over multiple sectors and industries,"

"As evidenced in this correspondence, the FBI provides critical information to the private sector in an effort to protect themselves and their customers. The men and women of the FBI work every day to protect the American public."

"It is unfortunate that conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation with the sole purpose of attempting to discredit the agency," 

[dotcalm]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The correspondence between the FBI and Twitter show nothing more than examples of our traditional, longstanding and ongoing federal government and private sector engagements, which involve numerous companies over multiple sectors and industries

Latest Twitter Files shows CIA, FBI have spent years meddling in content moderation

https://nypost.com/2022/12/24/latest-batch-of-twitter-files-shows-cia-fbi-involved-in-content-moderation/

 

Twitter Files show FBI acted as ‘subsidiary’ of the social media platform, trying to censor users and tweets

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/12/17/twitter-files-show-fbi-acted-as-subsidiary-of-the-social-media-platform-trying-to-censor-users-and-tweets-1317735/

 

Take your blinders and see it for what it is.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, dotcalm said:

Latest Twitter Files shows CIA, FBI have spent years meddling in content moderation

https://nypost.com/2022/12/24/latest-batch-of-twitter-files-shows-cia-fbi-involved-in-content-moderation/

 

Twitter Files show FBI acted as ‘subsidiary’ of the social media platform, trying to censor users and tweets

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/12/17/twitter-files-show-fbi-acted-as-subsidiary-of-the-social-media-platform-trying-to-censor-users-and-tweets-1317735/

 

Take your blinders and see it for what it is.

You can post as much as you want but the fact being your need to read the actual evidence in the link I preovided, instead your taking the word of cherry picked data by Matt and we all now how credible his investigation has been right:

 

2017: Matt Taibbi’s Not-So-Secret Russian Past

https://jordanrussiacenter.org/news/matt-taibbis-not-secret-russian-past/#.Y6emw31ByUk

 

2017 Matt Taibbi’s Skepticism of the Russian Hacking Coverage Is all Wrong

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/04/04/matt-taibbis-skepticism-of-the-russian-hacking-coverage-is-all-wrong/

 

Twenty years ago, in Moscow, Matt Taibbi was a misogynist <deleted>—and possibly worse

https://chicagoreader.com/blogs/twenty-years-ago-in-moscow-matt-taibbi-was-a-misogynist-<deleted>-and-possibly-worse/

 

Notice on his latest installment where he's now trying to discredit the CIA, its not even related to any files given to him by twitter:

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1606701519486988288

 

[dotcalm]

FBI pressured Twitter, sent trove of docs hours before Post broke Hunter laptop story

https://nypost.com/2022/12/19/fbi-reached-out-to-twitter-before-post-broke-hunter-biden-laptop-story/

 

You think because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC don't /refuse report it, it's not news, or true? The regime media may very well be the biggest impediment to maintaining what remains of democracy.

 

Elon Musk has done his part, and it was cheap (for him) at $44B or so.

[Scott]

Posts containing false or misleading information and off-topic posts and replies removed.   This topic is not about Hunter Biden's laptop, Twitter or other extraneous crap brought up.

 

One member is on suspension and continuing to go off-topic will see others follow.  

[mikebike]

1 hour ago, dotcalm said:

Try starting with the Twitter Files-Matt Taiibbi, and the scheme to suppress the HunterBiden laptop story on twitter. Unless you are domiciled in a cave in Afghanistan then you may have heard the news about that by now. If you have your face glued to the regime media you ain't getting the truth as you probably already know.

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/12/the-twitter-files-miss-the-real-scandal-fbi-interference-in-the-2020-election/amp/

When you are handed curated information from someone in power with an agenda, attempting to control a narrative, that is NOT journalism. Does not matter if it is the CIA or a CEO doing it, you are a stooge, not a journalist. 

[heybruce]

8 hours ago, dotcalm said:

It’s quite peculiar (more like pathetic) how the J6 committee presented  evidence about what what an official failed to do and the last hearing seemed to focus on a number of things that did not occur, from a draft tweet that was not sent to an executive order that was never signed. There were discussions of appointing Trump attorney Sidney Powell as a special counsel, seizing voting machines or replacing the Justice Department’s leadership. It is a bizarre list, but it is also notable in that no final action was taken on such proposals.
However, while repeatedly omitted by the Committee, Trump told his supporters to go to the Capitol “peacefully” to support Republicans challenging the election. At 1:11 p.m., Trump concluded his speech. Around 2:10 p.m., people surged up the Capitol steps. At 4:17 p.m., Trump made his statement to stop — roughly an hour and a half later.
And as usual the regime media also downplayed the glaring failure of the J6 Committee to produce what it described as bombshell evidence of a criminal conspiracy by Trump. Members like Rep. Adam Schiff (D., Ca.) repeatedly promised that the next hearing would reveal such direct evidence only to have the same rehashing of the prior claims for prosecution.
Despite the broad condemnation of Trump for his speech and conduct on that day, there is a difference between what is viewed as questionable behavior and what is chargeable as criminal conduct.

The Metropolitan Police Commander on site declared a riot at 1:50 p.m.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack

 

Trump didn't tell his supporters to go home until 8 pm.  Specifically he tweeted:  "Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!"   https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/tweets-january-6-2021

[Scouse123]

On 12/24/2022 at 2:09 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Ah, but he didn't start any wars, did he, so not a threat to world peace, was he!

 

The only thing I take away from the committee is that they must be terrified of Trump coming back in 2024 to go to such lengths to stop him standing.

I don't want Trump to stand again either, but that's because he would likely just get the Dems re elected to POTUS.

Well,

 

As far as I know nor did President Obama, he ' inherited ' one!

 

There are plenty of American presidents that didn't start wars.

[Scouse123]

On 12/24/2022 at 2:51 PM, nauseus said:

Most presidents receive a great deal of airtime. He was quite consistent for the most part but I'd agree more erratic after the Covid outbreak - then again many politicians around the world were like that in 2020. Finally Trump was totally at sea after the 2020 election, when  should have just accepted the loss and handed over quietly.

 

Initially, in 2016, he was just as fit for office as many of his predecessors, and even more so than his successor IMOO. How was  he a danger to the US? No new conflicts and he pushed NATO countries to contribute as per their own rules, making NATO stronger. 

“They must go on voting until they get it right.” Jose Manuel Barroso. ????

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/25/2022 at 11:42 PM, dotcalm said:

It’s quite peculiar (more like pathetic) how the J6 committee presented  evidence about what what an official failed to do and the last hearing seemed to focus on a number of things that did not occur, from a draft tweet that was not sent to an executive order that was never signed. There were discussions of appointing Trump attorney Sidney Powell as a special counsel, seizing voting machines or replacing the Justice Department’s leadership. It is a bizarre list, but it is also notable in that no final action was taken on such proposals.
However, while repeatedly omitted by the Committee, Trump told his supporters to go to the Capitol “peacefully” to support Republicans challenging the election. At 1:11 p.m., Trump concluded his speech. Around 2:10 p.m., people surged up the Capitol steps. At 4:17 p.m., Trump made his statement to stop — roughly an hour and a half later.
And as usual the regime media also downplayed the glaring failure of the J6 Committee to produce what it described as bombshell evidence of a criminal conspiracy by Trump. Members like Rep. Adam Schiff (D., Ca.) repeatedly promised that the next hearing would reveal such direct evidence only to have the same rehashing of the prior claims for prosecution.
Despite the broad condemnation of Trump for his speech and conduct on that day, there is a difference between what is viewed as questionable behavior and what is chargeable as criminal conduct.

there is a difference between what is viewed as questionable behavior and what is chargeable as criminal conduct.

 

If wishin' and hopin' were facts, Trump would have been in jail years ago.

The recently ended and not missed committee were IMO just political theatre by Democrats, and their "recommendation" could have been written on day one. IMO it will end up with all the other attacks in the dustbin of history.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Well,

 

As far as I know nor did President Obama, he ' inherited ' one!

 

There are plenty of American presidents that didn't start wars.

Indeed there are and the people of the world are grateful for that. Not starting wars is a very good thing, so perhaps some should remember that Trump did at least one good thing in his time.

[mikebike]

18 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

there is a difference between what is viewed as questionable behavior and what is chargeable as criminal conduct.

 

If wishin' and hopin' were facts, Trump would have been in jail years ago.

The recently ended and not missed committee were IMO just political theatre by Democrats, and their "recommendation" could have been written on day one. IMO it will end up with all the other attacks in the dustbin of history.

The teflon don (Gotti not 45 ????) was untouchable... until he wasn't. Watch out for the business and tax lawsuits. 

[mikebike]

18 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Indeed there are and the people of the world are grateful for that. Not starting wars is a very good thing, so perhaps some should remember that Trump did at least one good thing in his time.

Now you sound like Ye defending you-know-who... 

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, mikebike said:

Now you sound like Ye defending you-know-who... 

So what if I am?

 

Bye

[metisdead]

Off topic posts and replies about the Taliban/Afghanistan have been removed. 

[ozimoron]

Pro-Trump protester Ray Epps told Jan. 6 committee 'crazy' conspiracy theories tore apart his life

 

Far-right members of Congress have suggested that the Trump supporter was actually a federal plant. Epps said the attack made him "ill."

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/-trump-protester-ray-epps-told-jan-6-committee-crazy-conspiracy-theori-rcna63615

[ozimoron]

'Eyebrow raising': former prosecutor slams Lindsey Graham for allegedly urging lawyer to find dead voters

 

On CNN Thursday, former federal prosecutor Harry Litman criticized Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) for allegedly asking Donald Trump's lawyers to find five examples of dead people voting, to give the campaign the pretext necessary to challenge the election results.

 

The new allegations come from transcripts of the testimony of Trump attorney and former One America News anchor Christina Bobb, who told House January 6 Committee investigators of the exchange.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/eyebrow-raising-former-prosecutor-slams-lindsey-graham-for-urging-lawyer-to-find-voters/

[ozimoron]

DC mayor told Jan. 6 panel failures resulted from belief far-right extremists were ‘friendly’ to police

 

Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser (D) testified to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol that a belief that far-right extremists and rioters would be “friendly” to law enforcement that day caused “intelligence failures.”

 

“People thought they were friendly to law enforcement and that they loved their country,” Bowser said in a newly released transcript. “People didn’t think that these white nationalists would overthrow the Capitol building.”

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3792383-d-c-mayor-told-jan-6-panel-failures-resulted-from-belief-far-right-extremists-were-friendly-to-police/

[heybruce]

16 hours ago, ozimoron said:

DC mayor told Jan. 6 panel failures resulted from belief far-right extremists were ‘friendly’ to police

 

Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser (D) testified to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol that a belief that far-right extremists and rioters would be “friendly” to law enforcement that day caused “intelligence failures.”

 

“People thought they were friendly to law enforcement and that they loved their country,” Bowser said in a newly released transcript. “People didn’t think that these white nationalists would overthrow the Capitol building.”

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3792383-d-c-mayor-told-jan-6-panel-failures-resulted-from-belief-far-right-extremists-were-friendly-to-police/

He gave the far-right way too much credit for intelligence and judgment.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

He gave the far-right way too much credit for intelligence and judgment.

Just an ill-informed opinion which seems as confused and confusing as that of her police chief. So much for judgement.

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, nauseus said:

Just an ill-informed opinion which seems as confused and confusing as that of her police chief. So much for judgement.

Storming the Capitol goes way past being "ill-informed".

 

However if you are arguing that the Mayor and Chief of Police of Washington DC were idiots for not recognizing what dangerous idiots Trump's far-right supporters are....You've got a point.

[FritsSikkink]

On 12/24/2022 at 7:08 AM, RichardColeman said:

A report led by the democrats says a republican candidate should be barred from running - go figure !

Republican witnesses