Lucky Bones Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, ozimoron said: She doesn't have to change any minds. She only has to encourage people not to vote for politicians who resist climate change. That's her main message and she's wildly successful at it. Every fool knows you can't change the mind of a zealot climate change denier. Now you know who other people vote for? Amazing.???????? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alex8912 Posted January 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, ozimoron said: I do, yes. Greta Thunberg is a principled young woman with a disability. Unless you can articulate some issue with her message and not her then I would suggest you are behaving like a kindergarten child. And that's the kindest view I can offer.. Then your mind reading abilities are severely distorted. Your silly name calling speaks volumes as well. Someone can believe in climate change and not like or be a fan of Greta. I'm done with this conversation. No one can read another's mind. They just think they can and it's a severe detriment to them in all levels. Now run along. There must be some posts on here you will be reporting soon. Oh my...did I just read your mind? ???? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Bones Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Could you make a more inane comment? If you asked nicely I probably could, just for you though.???????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 4 hours ago, sqwakvfr said: It was a staged event. She was smiling while the Polizei was carrying her to the bus. They then stopped to pose for the cameras and she then did a thumbs up while in the bus. She looks more and more like someone who is interested in the “Kardashian” syndrome: Being famous for being famous without any accomplishment(s). She’s an environmental campaigner, she knows the value of being photographed being arrested by the police. Clearly the police haven’t learned the lesson of not handing protestor’s campaign material, or perhaps they have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, alex8912 said: Here is a problem with a lot of you. You can believe in climate change but don't ever have to like ( or actually act like a junior high school girl in love with ) Greta. Do you or several other posters ever even imagine this?? I mean can you actually conceive this? You equate any negative thought on Greta by someone as that person being a religious or political zealot? I mean do you actually believe this? Actually I equate it to something else that is neither religious or political. Here’s the very positive thing about GT, she brings on board support for environmentalism from all ages, millions pay attention. Even her detractors can’t avert their eyes, adding their own comments on social media and amplifying the reach of her campaign. So, thank you for your contribution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 43 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said: Name one quantifiable thing she has done to reduce the effects of climate change? Do not say she has the raised the awareness of the effects of climate change because many have done this for a long time. She’s brought millions into the discussion on climate change which has a direct impact on the politics of dealing with climate change. A remarkable achievement for a young woman who has no hands on the levers of political power. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted January 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: She’s brought millions into the discussion on climate change which has a direct impact on the politics of dealing with climate change. A remarkable achievement for a young woman who has no hands on the levers of political power. More to do with the puppeteer pulling the strings of a mentally disturbed child IMHO. Now she's an adult she should be charged and jailed like all the other 'environmental' terrorists. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said: Really: “You can't reason with a religious or political zealot. Climate change deniers walk among us.” So this is not your comment? Was a that a response to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 48 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said: Name one quantifiable thing she has done to reduce the effects of climate change? Do not say she has the raised the awareness of the effects of climate change because many have done this for a long time. She's inspired hope to millions, increased pressure on governments and inspired scientists to help effect change. “Speaking as a climate change scientist who has been working on this issue for 20 years and saying the same thing for 20 years, she is getting people to listen, which we have failed to do,” said Saleemul Huq, director of the International Centre for Climate Change & Development in Bangladesh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said: Now you know who other people vote for? Amazing.???????? Did I say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post proton Posted January 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Credo said: So you think she has accomplished nothing? That is a pretty ill-informed statement. At 16 she sailed from Europe to New York in a zero carbon emitting sailboat. Greta Thunberg was 'TIME' magazine's youngest person of the year. Greta Thunberg was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize... more than once. Greta Thunberg founded Fridays for Future. There are many more things to add to the list, but I wouldn't want to overburden you with too many facts. https://www.greenmatters.com/p/greta-thunberg-accomplishments Hitler was on Time magazines cover and Obama had that peace prize. She is a moron who spouts emotion with no facts or knowledge to back up her hysterical claims. Only people as ill informed as her are impressed. I would be more impressed if she directed her protests to the main pollutant countries like China, but she will never be doing that. She needs to grow up, as do her supporters Edited January 18, 2023 by proton 4 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 40 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: She's a global superstar for the world's youth. Her takedown of Andrew Tate on Twitter was a joy! More power to her. ???? Actually, referring to other people's genitalia on social media is crass, childish and unsophisticated. At the age of 20, I'd expect her to know better. No doubt if Tate had referred to the size of Thunberg's genitalia you'd be clutching your pearls about the horror of it all. Double standards yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 34 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said: If you asked nicely I probably could, just for you though.???????? Or you debate in good faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post proton Posted January 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: She's inspired hope to millions, increased pressure on governments and inspired scientists to help effect change. “Speaking as a climate change scientist who has been working on this issue for 20 years and saying the same thing for 20 years, she is getting people to listen, which we have failed to do,” said Saleemul Huq, director of the International Centre for Climate Change & Development in Bangladesh. Can the little girl explain how human activity is responsible for global warming when Co2 is 0.04% of the atmosphere and 97% of that is natural.? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 49 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said: Can this be quantified? So she change the minds of an entire generation all over the world? Even in China? Of course she can. The fact that she is such a well known figure, instantly recognisable as the face of concerned youth, is testament to the fact that she inspires others. As for quantifying her appeal, I am not a marketer so I cannot give metrics, but she is undoubtedly recognisable as a media face of concerned youth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sqwakvfr Posted January 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: She’s brought millions into the discussion on climate change which has a direct impact on the politics of dealing with climate change. A remarkable achievement for a young woman who has no hands on the levers of political power. Millions? Possibly? Discussion? Yes. More and more people, companies and governments are discussing the negative effects of Climate Change. But what has actually been done? Every solution to combat climate change has its pluses and minuses. No one solution is perfect. The majority of the informed world realizes our lives will have to change to reduce the negative effects of climate change. Even a “zealot” like myself realizes this. But I believe she has been given too much credit “for moving the needle”. Also, a screaming teenager is never a good look. But that is now in the past because Ms. Thurngberg is now 20 years old. She is now fair game for criticism because she is now an adult. “If you can’t stand the heat then stay out of the kitchen”. This was said by Franklin Delano Rossevelt. I am not a climate change denier(as erroneously stated by someone else) but change of this magnitude cannot be done overnight. At this point in the world burning fossil fuels is the only way to fly 300 people over the Pacific and Atlantic Ocean in a matter of hours. Also, as much as Electric Vehicles are great they are not readily viable to all. I was offered a chance to rent a Tesla for my next trip to Los Angeles by Hertz at the same rate as a gasoline powered mid size car but I declined. Mainly because of the lack of charging stations in the area where I will be. Also, i have a few road trips planned in California and Arizona and the last thing I want to do is :run out of juice” on Interstate 10 between Palm Springs and Arizona because this part of the world is a “large and vast desert”. I might rent an EV possibly in 5 or 10 years from now but not today or tomorrow. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Was a that a response to you? Yes you stated it in your response to what I had commented? If you did not direct it at me then you should have prefaced it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, proton said: Can the little girl explain how human activity is responsible for global warming when Co2 is 0.04% of the atmosphere and 97% of that is natural.? That's 3rd grade school stuff: CO2 Makes Up Just 0.04% of Earth's Atmosphere. Here's Why Its Impact Is So Massive Yes I'm sure she knows, she went to school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Bones Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Did I say that? Certainy inferred it???????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said: Yes you stated it in your response to what I had commented? If you did not direct it at me then you should have prefaced it. It was not a response to you and my comment as general. If you believe you fit the description that's on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Actually, referring to other people's genitalia on social media is crass, childish and unsophisticated. At the age of 20, I'd expect her to know better. No doubt if Tate had referred to the size of Thunberg's genitalia you'd be clutching your pearls about the horror of it all. Double standards yet again. Wow, you sound super woke. Were you offended by her reference to his penis? I thought Tate supporters were all tough guys. Funny. Whereas it is no doubt acceptable for a grown man to bully a woman online knowing his toxic "fans" would pile in. He's a pathetic man and it was a superb putdown. Edited January 18, 2023 by josephbloggs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Lucky Bones said: Certainy inferred it???????? I didn't infer anything. I think you mean implied. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Bones Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, ozimoron said: I didn't infer anything. I think you mean implied. I'll take either before you implode.???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: It was not a response to you and my comment as general. If you believe you fit the description that's on you. If it was not a response to what I had commented then why use the term “zealot” without knowing anything about who or what I am. I know absolutely nothing about you nor do I ever want to know. I have never used the term “zealot” or “denier” in regards toanything you have commented on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, josephbloggs said: Wow, you sound super woke. Were you offended by her reference to his penis? I thought Tate supporters were all tough guys. Funny. Whereas it is no doubt acceptable for a grown man to bully a women online knowing his "fans" would pile in. He's a pathetic man and it was a superb putdown. I have no issue as long as it's consistent. I just object to the double standards. Had Tate remarked on the size of Thunberg's vagina I am sure people's attitudes would have been totally different and the hand wringing would have started. It's the hypocrisy that I don't like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said: If it was not a response to what I had commented then why use the term “zealot” without knowing anything about who or what I am. I know absolutely nothing about you nor do I ever want to know. I have never used the term “zealot” or “denier” in regards toanything you have commented on. Any person who repeatedly argues that climate change is overblown as an issue or outright false or denies that it is caused by human activities can be fairly labelled a zealot in exactly the same way as creationists can be likewise described. The science is in and that ship has sailed. Edited January 18, 2023 by ozimoron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Any person who repeatedly argues that climate change is overblown as an issue or outright false or denies that it is caused by human activities can be fairly labelled a zealot in exactly the same way as creationists can be likewise described. The science is in and that ship has sailed. Ah, when did I ever say Climate Change was overblown? When did I ever say it was false and when did I ever deny it? Or did you mean someone else while responding to my comment? Edited January 18, 2023 by sqwakvfr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keep Right Posted January 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Any person who repeatedly argues that climate change is overblown as an issue or outright false or denies that it is caused by human activities can be fairly labelled a zealot in exactly the same way as creationists can be likewise described. The science is in and that ship has sailed. OK, call me a zealot, climate change is overblown! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, sqwakvfr said: Ah, when did I ever say Climate Change was overblown? When did I ever say it was false and when did I ever deny it? I didn't. I replied to you with a generalisation. You can either agree with the generalisation or not as you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Actually, referring to other people's genitalia on social media is crass, childish and unsophisticated. At the age of 20, I'd expect her to know better. No doubt if Tate had referred to the size of Thunberg's genitalia you'd be clutching your pearls about the horror of it all. Double standards yet again. It was an amazing take down, he got what he deserved. ???? But nothing to do with this topic. Maybe next time he ask's her for her email address he'll be a little more polite............oooops he can't. He's in prison being investigated for rape, human trafficking and organized crime, oh and his cars, they've been seized........lol "Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg has won the internet’s admiration yet again, with her response to a controversial media personality known for his misogynistic and far-right comments, Andrew Tate, on Wednesday. The two engaged in a war of words on the microblogging platform Twitter, where Tate seemingly took a jibe at Thunberg while flexing the number of supercars he owns and asked for her email id" https://www.wionews.com/trending/small-d-energy-greta-thunberg-responds-to-andrew-tates-supercar-flex-on-twitter-he-replies-547631 Edited January 18, 2023 by Bkk Brian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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