Popular Post nahkit Posted January 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, cheapcanuck said: I see nothing wrong if the police are off duty and not using police resources, like a motor bike. Definitely something wrong with turning lights and sirens on in traffic to gain priority when not on official business. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad mick Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) ???????????????????????????????????????????? the joke is on Bro Big Joke ???? number 1 cop in thai police force ????♂️ Edited January 24, 2023 by Mad mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 from the article: Quote Modifying a private vehicle this way is a serious disciplinary offence and it is for the chiefs of the two divisions to decide how the three policemen are to be punished. Don't the police steamroller modified street racing bike parts all the time? Well, then there you have it, in the much used name of transparency and justice for all parties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, theoldgit said: What’s the difference between the officers selling their services to escort tourists and the uniformed and armed officers who sit inside gold shops throughout the country? The difference that in gold shops they don't bother people while when they escort they make use of laws that tpeople should go out of the way of the police (abuse of the laws). If they did this without the sirenes and getting people out of the way it would be ok, now its abuse of power. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 hours ago, dallen52 said: if other nationalities will get the same treatment? Only as long as you pay ฿฿ ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thonglorjimmy Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, robblok said: The difference that in gold shops they don't bother people while when they escort they make use of laws that tpeople should go out of the way of the police (abuse of the laws). If they did this without the sirenes and getting people out of the way it would be ok, now its abuse of power. So a uniformed off duty police officer, with a gun, is ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, realfunster said: Yes, after thinking about this for a few days, I did consider that I see police (in uniform) regularly stationed at office buildings, schools, gold shops etc. No doubt this comes with some monetary compensation. what ? the day policing becomes as you describe above - we are lost, the very existance of police is to uphold laws, you may not agree with all the laws but without them society would colapse, criminals would operate unchallenged, just think about that if you can, without a national police service we would be living in a lawless society, you might like the idea but that would be short lived if you want private security then hire someone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, thonglorjimmy said: So a uniformed off duty police officer, with a gun, is ok? In a gold shop sure I don't see why not. Outside in public would be a different thing. But i get what you mean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 7 hours ago, webfact said: showed that some policemen have been using their free time when on duty as law enforcement officers there is no such thing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxo1947 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Well at least the money is not going back to China-which is what most posters seem to get upset about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwaibill Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, hioctane said: In the US, off duty police do private security all the time but not in uniform. What I was going to remark. Actually my dad used to do events in uniform, as that gave a visual of security. I don’t recall if my BIL did his gigs in uniform, but he did lots of extra duty. They were both small town police; pop was technically a constable who may have had different rules. Edited January 24, 2023 by Kwaibill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 hours ago, theoldgit said: What’s the difference between the officers selling their services to escort tourists and the uniformed and armed officers who sit inside gold shops throughout the country? The difference is that these officers are wearing police uniforms and tricking motorists that they are police by turning on the flashing lights and sirens to get through the traffic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Dogmatix said: This type of escort service had been available for a long time. I remember being given a quote that was something like 10k a day for a police car and 5k for a motorbike plus tips to escort VIP visitors around Bangkok. We used the service for a visiting director from our parent company. They did a great job in traffic turning on sirens to get cars out of the way - well worth it. The director believed it was because the cops considered him genuinely important. are you for real, so let me get this right..................oh never mind believe it or not what you describe above is corruption, police are payed to do a job, private security is not part of it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwaibill Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, smedly said: if you want private security then hire someone She did. Off duty policing in no way brings about what you suggest. The role of an off duty cop providing extra curricular security is still to uphold the laws, preventing robbery, kidnapping, etc. A couple of relatives who were peace officers in the US used to do off hours security for hire. That society has yet to undergo…complete… collapse. Edited January 24, 2023 by Kwaibill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Andycoops said: The gold shop in my BigC has a armed uniformed policeman on duty every day, here in Roi Et. So you know where to see one if you so desire. It's the same in most places near where I live, Yasothon etc if police believe there is a high risk of the place being turned over then they are acting properly - there should be no fee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, MRToMRT said: They were off duty ........ so could they be prosecuted for impersonating a police officer? where does it say "off duty". forgive me if I missed it police in uniform doing their job as a public servant "DO NOT HAVE FREE TIME" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchis Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) this has existed for a long time in the tourist industry, in the mid90's my then boss was extremely embarrassed to be escorted from don muang to his hotel by a convoy of police cars and police bikes. this was organised by the owner of one of the mega jewelry stores where tour operators sent their groups. Edited January 24, 2023 by orchis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 In the mean time, 11 citizens burned alive in a public van ..... But they were not Chinese ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 31 minutes ago, robblok said: In a gold shop sure I don't see why not. Outside in public would be a different thing. But i get what you mean. they are on duty doing their job, is it the right thing for police to be doing this - well that is open to debate, IMO no, if things are that bad in this country then something else is very wrong - police are not security guards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmartyMarty Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, cheapcanuck said: I see nothing wrong if the police are off duty and not using police resources, like a motor bike. So you're ok with them being in uniform, disrupting traffic, skipping immigration baggage checks, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, Kwaibill said: She did. Off duty policing in no way brings about what you suggest. The role of an off duty cop providing extra curricular security is still to uphold the laws, preventing robbery, kidnapping, etc. A couple of relatives who were peace officers in the US used to do off hours security for hire. That society has yet to undergo…complete… collapse. they were off duty - there is a huge difference, they never presented themselves as police if they did they would be dismissed and possibly criminally prosecuted 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geir Rasch Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 hours ago, cheapcanuck said: I see nothing wrong if the police are off duty and not using police resources, like a motor bike. Is it legal to modify your private vehicle to resemble a police vehicle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, orchis said: this has existed for a long time in the tourist industry, in the mid90's my then boss was extremely embarrassed to be escorted from don muang to his hotel by a convoy of police cars and police bikes. this was organised by the owner of one of the mega jewelry stores where tour operators sent their groups. I could understand this if he had a case full of very expensive jewels - then it could be justified - the police were in fact preventing possible crime - this actually goes on in the west, police will often get involved in high risk situations like for example - be around a certain area when security trucks are transporting large sums of money - police will be notified of the activity and may be around the area - they are doing their job - not off duty or getting extra payments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchis Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, smedly said: I could understand this if he had a case full of very expensive jewels nice deflection but there was no jewellery involved. a Thai business owner trying to impress a visiting foreign tour operator and get their business. (and impress them further with their 30% kickback commissions). however it backfired in this case. Edited January 24, 2023 by orchis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRToMRT Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 48 minutes ago, smedly said: where does it say "off duty". forgive me if I missed it Its in the attached article of the OP, some very interesting stuff in there which should have been in the OP IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoilSpoil Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, sungod said: Its been going on for years. Price was 5k a car in 2005. We used them to get in and out of Bangkok on our school trips. Edited January 24, 2023 by SoilSpoil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 hours ago, realfunster said: Yes, after thinking about this for a few days, I did consider that I see police (in uniform) regularly stationed at office buildings, schools, gold shops etc. No doubt this comes with some monetary compensation. So, it is in fact quite common here. What the actual rules are, who knows. In this case perhaps the apparent use of publicly paid for vehicles is what has contributed to the ire (along with the smug and irritating tourist), hence the deflection on the vehicle ownership in the OP In the UK, for example, uniformed police are available for hire - just look at the footy ! The police in Scotland escort these bigoted orange walks, it is said that the lodges do not pay for this, so that means it is the taxpayer who pays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeandIce Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 17 hours ago, cheapcanuck said: I see nothing wrong if the police are off duty and not using police resources, like a motor bike. So it is ok fpr off dity police to run sirens gpr non police detail and to stop traffic at will ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Kwaibill said: The role of an off duty cop providing extra curricular security is still to uphold the laws, preventing robbery, kidnapping, etc. you are missing the point, they are not police in that capacity, off duty means "off duty" - if you had any clue about policing you would understand exactly what I am talking about just leave leave it there, no point in discussing it further 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xonax Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) Why not, if anyone is ready to pay for it? In my neighborhood quite a few policemen in uniforms double as shopping mall and gold shop guards. Edited January 24, 2023 by Xonax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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