Millions forced to skip meals as UK cost of living crisis deepens

[save the frogs]

15 minutes ago, kickstart said:

And yes those same people are probable up to their eye's in debt with credit cards,people nowadays what everything ,and just put it down on plastic ,and now that is coming back to bite them in the rear.

Look at the UK debt to GDP, at the end of Q2 April -June 2022 101.9% of GDP.

I agree. 

maybe frugality will start to become more fashionable in coming years.

 

[puchooay]

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Pensioners are well cared for in the UK.

 

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nothing like a gross generalization to prop up negative views of others.

In that case, I suggest you add "some" to your previous post.

[proton]

44 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Pensioners also receive welfare supplements to their income, by example; help with housing costs, additional winter fuel allowances, free bus passes, free TV licenses, free prescriptions, attendance allowances, mobility allowances. 
 

Pensioners are well cared for in the UK.

 

 

You probably would not think so if you were one, only get a prescription if you can manage to actually see a Dr and they stopped free TV licenses 3 years ago. The winter fuel allowance soon gets burned up. UK pensions are among the lowest in Europe.

[Scott]

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[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, proton said:

You probably would not think so if you were one, only get a prescription if you can manage to actually see a Dr and they stopped free TV licenses 3 years ago. The winter fuel allowance soon gets burned up. UK pensions are among the lowest in Europe.

UK pensions are amongst the lowest in Europe, but they are supported by a range of means tested benefits (free TV licenses being an example).
 

And yes getting to see a Dr is not easy, I’ve frequently commented on the fact, but it’s an issue that effects all, including pensioners.

I’m spending much of my time here in the UK between Doctor surgeries, hospitals and pharmacies dealing with a pensioner’s health issues. I’ll let you know if you tell me something I don’t know.

 

 

Edited January 26, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[still kicking]

I don't live in the UK, so I don't know what the UK pension is, OK? I live in OZ, on just a pension I do pay rent now since my move to Thailand did not work out to well, but I am not here to complain about it, but I live very well here I do get cheap medication, rent assistant, electricity assistant, cheap bus or train fares and I can afford an Asian holiday twice a year so now I wait for all the OZ haters to come out and prove me wrong, feel free to attack me.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Nonsense. None of my extended family are struggling. None of us were given anything either, we simply worked hard, planned ahead, lived within our means, didn't make a myriad of poor decisions.

 

People need to start taking responsibility for their lives and stop blaming governments for everything.

Seems the debate has come down to 2 sides. On one side are those that didn't think the good times would last forever, and allowed for things getting bad, by planning, not taking out loans on housing that they couldn't afford if interest rates went up, not taking on too much debt, and saving as much as possible. On the other side are those that thought the good times would last forever, took on massive mortgages, bought expensive cars, took lots of exotic holidays, and lived the good life, but saved sod all.

So, when it quite foreseeably went bad, the former are able to survive, while the latter blame the government and everyone else for their problems.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, still kicking said:

I don't live in the UK, so I don't know what the UK pension is, OK? I live in OZ, on just a pension I do pay rent now since my move to Thailand did not work out to well, but I am not here to complain about it, but I live very well here I do get cheap medication, rent assistant, electricity assistant, cheap bus or train fares and I can afford an Asian holiday twice a year so now I wait for all the OZ haters to come out and prove me wrong, feel free to attack me.

Wow! I should have become an Australian citizen. Over the ditch pensioners get sod all help on GP visits or medications unless we are basically destitute. I do get free travel on buses at certain times of the day, and some businesses give discounts to pensioners but not all. No hope of getting social housing with thousands of families living in motels at taxpayer expense, and the very few places that cater for pensioners are always full.

 

Of course the UK is even better, with social housing, free GP visits and medications. Unfortunately living in the UK does not appeal.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, billd766 said:

Why and where would NATO be trying to start a war in Europe?

 

You may have missed the one in Ukraine that is already running and that was started by Putin and Russia.

They started by giving things like helmets, but are now up to battle tanks and possibly F16s. Sure seems like trying to escalate it into a NATO conflict.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, BusyB said:

No point trying to staunch this eruption of misogynist bile.

Ah, playing the old "misogynist" card in hopes of shutting him down I see. Happily that sort of woke deflection doesn't work any more.

[Chomper Higgot]

 

 

27 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seems the debate has come down to 2 sides. On one side are those that didn't think the good times would last forever, and allowed for things getting bad, by planning, not taking out loans on housing that they couldn't afford if interest rates went up, not taking on too much debt, and saving as much as possible. On the other side are those that thought the good times would last forever, took on massive mortgages, bought expensive cars, took lots of exotic holidays, and lived the good life, but saved sod all.

So, when it quite foreseeably went bad, the former are able to survive, while the latter blame the government and everyone else for their problems.

Except you missed those of us who are personally financially secure but have empathy for those who are not.

 

So let’s split this two ways as you suggest:

 

Those who have a history of empathy in their expressed views and those who have a history of expressing views defined by callousness.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I agree. 

maybe frugality will start to become more fashionable in coming years.

 

It’s certainly become a thing with those who can’t afford to eat regular meals.

 

 

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They started by giving things like helmets, but are now up to battle tanks and possibly F16s. Sure seems like trying to escalate it into a NATO conflict.

Nonsense. . 

Edited January 26, 2023 by Bluespunk

[save the frogs]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s certainly become a thing with those who can’t afford to eat regular meals.

yes ok. some people through no fault of their own are genuinely struggling. 

 

[BritManToo]

11 hours ago, BusyB said:

No point trying to staunch this eruption of misogynist bile.

It's interesting that posters think a guy that expects a family unit should consist of a man, a woman and children ................. hates women.

[BritManToo]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And yes getting to see a Dr is not easy, I’ve frequently commented on the fact, but it’s an issue that effects all, including pensioners.

 

An issue that affects all poor people.

I'm betting there's no NHS waiting list for the ultra rich PM (or any MP).

[BritManToo]

7 hours ago, still kicking said:

I don't live in the UK, so I don't know what the UK pension is, OK?

185GBP per person, per week (+housing if you don't already own a home).

I'm totally happy with it, about 30% more than I was expecting.

(+10% more after April)

Edited January 27, 2023 by BritManToo

[Pattaya Spotter]

21 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

What ambitions are they? Tell that to the UK population whose majority think otherwise.

They were asked should we fund children's meals and heating for the poor or tanks and guns for The Ukraine...I must have missed that.

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

They were asked should we fund children's meals and heating for the poor or tanks and guns for The Ukraine...I must have missed that.

Yes you did:

Exclusive: A majority of respondents to a new poll want the UK to continue its support of Ukraine in opposing the war waged by Vladimir Putin even though they believe measures are worsening the cost of living crisis.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/majority-of-public-believe-costofliving-crisis-is-price-worth-paying-for-ukraine-support

[Bkk Brian]

11 hours ago, BusyB said:

No point trying to staunch this eruption of misogynist bile.

Correct no point, its real and they don't realize just how ingrained and institutionalized their prejudice against women is. Remarkable.

[Pattaya Spotter]

12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes you did:

Exclusive: A majority of respondents to a new poll want the UK to continue its support of Ukraine in opposing the war waged by Vladimir Putin even though they believe measures are worsening the cost of living crisis.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/majority-of-public-believe-costofliving-crisis-is-price-worth-paying-for-ukraine-support

Polls are for fools...try a plebiscite or referendum. 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Polls are for fools...try a plebiscite or referendum. 

Fools that miss them:

 

20 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

They were asked should we fund children's meals and heating for the poor or tanks and guns for The Ukraine...I must have missed that.

 

[NextG]

20 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I don't know where the 'bitterly' came from.

Most of us are entirely happy living here with our younger wives and pensions.

Did you post bitterly? If not, why did you feel the need to respond? Let those who posted with bitterness respond. 

Most? How would you know?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Polls are for fools...try a plebiscite or referendum. 

The UK is a representative democracy.

 

Support for Ukraine is firmly stated by all major political parties in the UK.

 

There hasn’t been a Parliamentary Election since Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine, at the next election voters will get to choose again.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

They were asked should we fund children's meals and heating for the poor or tanks and guns for The Ukraine...I must have missed that.

The electorate weren’t asked if they should fund children’s meals and heating for the poor or stuff wads of cash into the pockets of Tory chums either.

[billd766]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They started by giving things like helmets, but are now up to battle tanks and possibly F16s. Sure seems like trying to escalate it into a NATO conflict.

But AFTER the Russian invasion of the Ukraine, and not before.

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Support for Ukraine is firmly stated by all major political parties in the UK.

I don't vote for any of them, all self-serving crooks.

Bring back Arthur Scargill's Socialist Labour Party!

Edited January 27, 2023 by BritManToo

[giddyup]

12 hours ago, still kicking said:

I don't live in the UK, so I don't know what the UK pension is, OK? I live in OZ, on just a pension I do pay rent now since my move to Thailand did not work out to well, but I am not here to complain about it, but I live very well here I do get cheap medication, rent assistant, electricity assistant, cheap bus or train fares and I can afford an Asian holiday twice a year so now I wait for all the OZ haters to come out and prove me wrong, feel free to attack me.

My ex wife owns her own house so has no rent to pay, yet she complains that she can't live on an Aussie aged pension, so runs credit cards to the limit, but then money management was never her forte.

[Scott]

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[Saanim]

On 1/26/2023 at 4:33 AM, puchooay said:

Yesterday I made a chicken casserole for 4 people. Total cost £3.80.

 

Chicken, mushrooms, tomatoes, onions, spinach and red pepper. Served with jacket potatoes. 10 minutes prep, 50 minutes cooking time. 

 

Cheap, wholesome food with minimal fat content. Just a bit of effort needed.

Kudos for your cooking economic skill. How often do you feed your people like this? Don't they deserve a bit better? Or don't you deserve more income for your effort working in (and for) the superpower country that is among the top GDP?