Mac Mickmanus Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, heybruce said: Peace deals between nations that were not fighting, and nothing to stop the violence between Palestinians and Israelis. Why do you think that's a big accomplishment? I think that its much better for the region if all the countries recognise each others right to exist and are on speaking/friendly terms and some hostile countries are less likely to wage war against Israel if they don't have the backing of every other Country in the region . An attempt was made to bring a solution to the Palestinian problem , but Donald left his position of POTUS before that solution could be found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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heybruce Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 45 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I think that its much better for the region if all the countries recognise each others right to exist and are on speaking/friendly terms and some hostile countries are less likely to wage war against Israel if they don't have the backing of every other Country in the region . An attempt was made to bring a solution to the Palestinian problem , but Donald left his position of POTUS before that solution could be found The countries involved were already speaking, trading, and living with each other. I don't recall any attempt to solve the Palestinian problem. Please explain. Also, "Donald left his position of POTUS" is a funny way to say he was booted out by a comfortable majority of the voters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, heybruce said: Trump did not bring peace. They were already at peace. If Biden signed a peace deal with Canada would you credit him with bringing peace to America's northern border? Trump , Netanyahu and UAE representative all signing a Treaty of Peace between Israel and U.A.E and USA 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted January 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, heybruce said: I don't recall any attempt to solve the Palestinian problem. Please explain. You really need to pay attention to the news a bit more , reports on the subject were widely covered in the media over a number of years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Trump , Netanyahu and UAE representative all signing a Treaty of Peace between Israel and U.A.E and USA They signed a piece of paper maintaining the status quo. Not much of an accomplishment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted January 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2023 On 1/27/2023 at 7:41 AM, 2baht said: What would you call inciting insurrection? A protest against a highly suspect election result more like. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted January 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, heybruce said: The countries involved were already speaking, trading, and living with each other. I don't recall any attempt to solve the Palestinian problem. Please explain. Also, "Donald left his position of POTUS" is a funny way to say he was booted out by a comfortable majority of the voters. 75 million voted for him. Watch your immature language. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, heybruce said: They signed a piece of paper maintaining the status quo. Not much of an accomplishment. Trump, Netanyahu and Zayed all seem to disagree with you "A joint statement issued by Trump, Netanyahu, and Zayed, read: "This historic diplomatic breakthrough will advance peace in the Middle East region and is a testament to the bold diplomacy and vision of the three leaders and the courage of the United Arab Emirates and Israel to chart a new path that will unlock the great potential in the region." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2baht Posted January 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: 75 million voted for him. Watch your immature language. And he lost. A one term loser! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Trump, Netanyahu and Zayed all seem to disagree with you "A joint statement issued by Trump, Netanyahu, and Zayed, read: "This historic diplomatic breakthrough will advance peace in the Middle East region and is a testament to the bold diplomacy and vision of the three leaders and the courage of the United Arab Emirates and Israel to chart a new path that will unlock the great potential in the region." As soon as Netanyahu got back there's trouble! I'm sure he's delighted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, 2baht said: As soon as Netanyahu got back there's trouble! I'm sure he's delighted! Netanyahu got back from where ? What trouble ? Who was delighted ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, Mac Mickmanus said: Netanyahu got back from where ? What trouble ? Who was delighted ? Back from oblivion to become PM ........again! 9 Palestinians dead yesterday, 8 Israelis today. Benny boy will be delighted, watch him retaliate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, 2baht said: Back from oblivion to become PM ........again! 9 Palestinians dead yesterday, 8 Israelis today. Benny boy will be delighted, watch him retaliate. Yes, I expect a severe response from Israel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Facebook thinks Trump is no longer a force, and they're probably right. They can pretend to be unbiased on this one for a while. But make no mistake, if he starts to gain traction he will be silenced by left wing big tech again. Fortunately Musk has Twitter so at least one platform won't be silencing their political opponents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Facebook thinks Trump is no longer a force, and they're probably right. They can pretend to be unbiased on this one for a while. But make no mistake, if he starts to gain traction he will be silenced by left wing big tech again. Fortunately Musk has Twitter so at least one platform won't be silencing their political opponents. Why does Trump need Twitter or Facebook? He's got Truth Social. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Getting back to topic. Has Trump started using Facebook to attack his politics rivals within the GOP or the women, and the wives of men, giving evidence against him yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Facebook thinks Trump is no longer a force, and they're probably right. They can pretend to be unbiased on this one for a while. But make no mistake, if he starts to gain traction he will be silenced by left wing big tech again. Fortunately Musk has Twitter so at least one platform won't be silencing their political opponents. I look forward to Trump posting again, getting him out from under the control of his handlers is a good thing, America needs to see how far gone he is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Thingamabob said: A protest against a highly suspect election result more like. A protest by people who don't need evidence to justify overthrowing a legitimate election and our democratic system. 3 hours ago, Thingamabob said: 75 million voted for him. Watch your immature language. When did stating well known facts become immaturity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Trump, Netanyahu and Zayed all seem to disagree with you "A joint statement issued by Trump, Netanyahu, and Zayed, read: "This historic diplomatic breakthrough will advance peace in the Middle East region and is a testament to the bold diplomacy and vision of the three leaders and the courage of the United Arab Emirates and Israel to chart a new path that will unlock the great potential in the region." So some politicians exaggerated their mundane accomplishment. Does this surprise you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted January 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, 2baht said: Back from oblivion to become PM ........again! 9 Palestinians dead yesterday, 8 Israelis today. Benny boy will be delighted, watch him retaliate. But, but, but....Mac Mickmanus said Trump brought peace to the Middle East! ???? 3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Yes, I expect a severe response from Israel So....no peace? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted January 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: You really need to pay attention to the news a bit more , reports on the subject were widely covered in the media over a number of years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan A great idea from Trump. As the Israelis and the Palestinians don't agree with each other, let's negotiate the plan only with Netanyahu! ???? The plan had been delayed by two years and previously rejected by the Palestinians, who were not invited to the meeting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: You really need to pay attention to the news a bit more , reports on the subject were widely covered in the media over a number of years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan I missed that one, but Candide covered it nicely. A "peace plan" that doesn't include one of the two parties that need to agree with it is not a peace plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 19 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: There is no comparison between Israel/UAE relations and Australia/New Zealand relations . Completely different situations and incomparable . Australia and NZ have always accepted each others right to exist and there hasn't been numerous wars in the region Two very different situations Whoosh>>>>>>>>> 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted January 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, heybruce said: I missed that one, but Candide covered it nicely. A "peace plan" that doesn't include one of the two parties that need to agree with it is not a peace plan. So, in brief, a peace agreement which is not a peace agreement, and a peace plan which is not a peace plan. ???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Thingamabob said: A protest against a highly suspect election result more like. A huge portion of Trump's supporters are evangelicals who overwhelmingly reject the theory of evolution. Given your way of judging evidence, I guess we can call the theory of evolution "highly suspect" as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, heybruce said: But, but, but....Mac Mickmanus said Trump brought peace to the Middle East! ???? So....no peace? Stop lying , I didn't say Trump bought peace to the Middle East . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Stop lying , I didn't say Trump bought peace to the Middle East . Your original post on this subject: "Trump also Bought peace to Israel and some of its neighbours" Clearly Israel is no more peaceful now than before Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, heybruce said: Your original post on this subject: "Trump also Bought peace to Israel and some of its neighbours" Clearly Israel is no more peaceful now than before Trump. Israel Signing a peace accord with UAE is more peaceful than Israel NOT having a peace accord with UAE . Trump also peace brokered deals between Israel and some other Countries in the region , I cannot remember who though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Israel Signing a peace accord with UAE is more peaceful than Israel NOT having a peace accord with UAE . Trump also peace brokered deals between Israel and some other Countries in the region , I cannot remember who though Accords between non enemies are welcomed, but cannot be called peace deals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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