Immigration. No more Residence Certificates.

[phetphet]

Just been to Samui Immigration Office to get aResidence Certificate.

Was told, “Boss says no more. Please go to Transport Office and talk to then.”

 

So looks like another long trip to Lipa Noi.

[phetphet]

Update to my original post.

 

Just left Transport Office. Was told they can only issue Residence Certificate to Pink Card holders with Yellow Book.

 

I need to go to the Tessaban.

 

Don’t know what those who wish to open a bank account will need to do.

[stubuzz]

30 minutes ago, phetphet said:

Just left Transport Office. Was told they can only issue Residence Certificate to Pink Card holders with Yellow Book

The transport office issues residence certificates?

[phetphet]

1 hour ago, stubuzz said:

The transport office issues residence certificates?

I needed one to change the name on my motorbike. To do that a Residebce Certificate has always been needed

Today I was told by Immigration that they will no longer issue them. Told me to go to Transport Office.

 

Transport Office told me they can only issue to someone with a Pink Card and Yellow Book, and to go to the Tessaban.

 

Tessaban told me they cannot do it unless I have a Yellow book.

 

I only have a copy of the Blue Book for our building. My name  is not in it.

 

Taken me all afternoon to basically get nowhere.

 

A friend got one at Immigration to open a bank account about three weeks ago. It seems they have since stopped.

 

Maybe they have been overwhelmed by all the new long stayers buying cars, motorbikes and opening bank accounts, and decided it is too much hassle.

 

Or maybe all this "grey Chinese" stuff in the news is causing too much heat. Who knows?

But buying or selling a car or motorbike, or opening a bank account for retirement Non 'O' just seems to have got a whole lot more difficult.

 

Can anyone advise the drawbacks of having a Yellow Book and Pink Card?

I recall there are a few. Including Your driving licences will  in future all be in Thai language.

Edited February 13, 2023 by phetphet

[Tropicalevo]

1 hour ago, phetphet said:

Can anyone advise the drawbacks of having a Yellow Book and Pink Card?

I have both and no known drawbacks (yet).

Almost no one wants to see the id card - everyone still asks for copy passport.

Id card name is a Thai translation - does not match bank account details etc.

Id number on the card was not accepted as a valid id number when I tried to keep my Thai PayPal account open.

Edited February 13, 2023 by Tropicalevo

[Tropicalevo]

1 hour ago, phetphet said:

I needed one to change the name on my motorbike. To do that a Residebce Certificate has always been needed

I changed the name on a m/b book last week by using copies of the passport and the work permit.

Edited February 13, 2023 by Tropicalevo

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, phetphet said:

Taken me all afternoon to basically get nowhere.

Your next stop is back to immigration to attempt to get them to do their job.

 

[proton]

1 minute ago, ukrules said:

Your next stop is back to immigration to attempt to get them to do their job.

 

which they will for 500 baht!

[Myran]

Here in Ubon, you have to get it from the tourist police. Might not be an option where you are, but perhaps worth investigating if you have no other options.

Edited February 13, 2023 by Myran

[phetphet]

51 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

I changed the name on a m/b book last week by using copies of the passport and the work permit.

I don't have a work permit as am on a retirement extension. Have bought and sold about seven motorbikes over the years. Always used the photocopy of our building's Blue Book. 

 

I wouldn't mind if they gave correct advice, but going all the way from Immigration to Lipa Noi, then back to the Tessaban, then all the way back to Bangrak. All for nothing is a PITA.

[phetphet]

58 minutes ago, proton said:

which they will for 500 baht!

Its always been THB500 for as long as I can remember.

 

My GF reckons I should contact the main office in Surat Thani and ask them where to get one if Samui Imm no longer do them. ????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, phetphet said:

 

Can anyone advise the drawbacks of having a Yellow Book and Pink Card?

 

No drawbacks but it can be a painful experience trying to get subject to how difficult the office make it. Many don't bother because it's a PITA

[proton]

40 minutes ago, phetphet said:

Its always been THB500 for as long as I can remember.

 

My GF reckons I should contact the main office in Surat Thani and ask them where to get one if Samui Imm no longer do them. ????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a free service, there is no official charge. I refused to pay and they still gave me one

[nigelforbes]

An agent can get you one for e a fee, if you are desperate.

 

And if you mean you want to sell your motorbike and change the name, the buyer can do that, you don't need to be involved in the process other than to sign the form.

Edited February 13, 2023 by nigelforbes

[scubascuba3]

7 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

An agent can get you one for e a fee, if you are desperate.

 

And if you mean you want to sell your motorbike and change the name, the buyer can do that, you don't need to be involved in the process other than to sign the form.

seller needs a residence certificate also

[Farma]

Maybe a misunderstanding.

 

My upcountry immigration office requires an official request from a govt department or embassy to issue residence certs.

 

They told me to see land transport and get a residence cert request from them.

I took the request back to immigration and they printed off the free residence cert while I waited.

Edited February 13, 2023 by Farma

[Xanthe]

24 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

An agent can get you one for e a fee, if you are desperate.

For buying and selling motor cycles, an agent can do it without ever stepping foots in any office. They did for me. For opening a bank account, agents re there to help you. 

[papa al]

26 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

seller needs a residence certificate also

Not true Pattaya.

[Banana7]

1 hour ago, phetphet said:

Its always been THB500 for as long as I can remember.

 

My GF reckons I should contact the main office in Surat Thani and ask them where to get one if Samui Imm no longer do them. ????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Always been 300 baht in Pattaya for a residence certificate.

 

[nigelforbes]

47 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

seller needs a residence certificate also

Not in the North, only the buyer.

[scubascuba3]

8 hours ago, papa al said:

Not true Pattaya.

Sure? i got one for my sale a few weeks ago which was needed apparently, buyer went to transport office so I'm not 100%

[papa al]

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Sure? i got one for my sale a few weeks ago which was needed apparently, buyer went to transport office so I'm not 100%

Can never be sure.

But 

Not required ~ year ago.

[khunPer]

18 hours ago, Xanthe said:

For buying and selling motor cycles, an agent can do it without ever stepping foots in any office. They did for me. For opening a bank account, agents re there to help you. 

You haven't been living on Koh Samui then...

[steelerian]

Residence certs have been free in Samui for the last 3 or 4 months. Prior to that there was a 500 baht charge.

The last time I got one was about 2 weeks ago, free of charge.

[phetphet]

3 hours ago, steelerian said:

Residence certs have been free in Samui for the last 3 or 4 months. Prior to that there was a 500 baht charge.

The last time I got one was about 2 weeks ago, free of charge.

A friend got one about three weeks ago to open a bank account.

 

If they are now free, then maybe that's why they have stopped issuing them.

I will go back in a couple of weeks and tell them I need one to open a bank account and see what they say. They at least can't tell me to go to the Transport Office. 

[khunPer]

1 hour ago, phetphet said:

If they are now free, then maybe that's why they have stopped issuing them.

I have always been charged 500 baht for a residence certificate, I have never heard anybody saying it's free on Samui...????

[connda]

Hear that sound?  Listen?  It's the sound of Mexico calling. 

[phetphet]

18 hours ago, khunPer said:

I have always been charged 500 baht for a residence certificate, I have never heard anybody saying it's free on Samui...????

Me neither. Until steelerian

Edited February 15, 2023 by phetphet

[gearbox]

On 2/13/2023 at 4:02 PM, phetphet said:

I needed one to change the name on my motorbike. To do that a Residebce Certificate has always been needed

Today I was told by Immigration that they will no longer issue them. Told me to go to Transport Office.

 

Transport Office told me they can only issue to someone with a Pink Card and Yellow Book, and to go to the Tessaban.

 

Tessaban told me they cannot do it unless I have a Yellow book.

 

I only have a copy of the Blue Book for our building. My name  is not in it.

 

Taken me all afternoon to basically get nowhere.

 

A friend got one at Immigration to open a bank account about three weeks ago. It seems they have since stopped.

 

Maybe they have been overwhelmed by all the new long stayers buying cars, motorbikes and opening bank accounts, and decided it is too much hassle.

 

Or maybe all this "grey Chinese" stuff in the news is causing too much heat. Who knows?

But buying or selling a car or motorbike, or opening a bank account for retirement Non 'O' just seems to have got a whole lot more difficult.

 

Can anyone advise the drawbacks of having a Yellow Book and Pink Card?

I recall there are a few. Including Your driving licences will  in future all be in Thai language.

The drawback of the yellow book is the amount of time to make it....I think I've done 3 trips to Nathan and paid 1K baht for translation of my passport in Thai. If you can't read or write Thai you'll need a Thai person to help you with the forms. You also need a "witness" to say they know you for a while.

Once you have the yellow book the pink card takes 30 minutes to do but as far as I remember had to go back to Nathon to pick it up.

My DL was renewed with the yellow book but still has my name in English. AFAIK you can use the yellow book and your passport for DL, the pink card is not needed.

The pink card is mainly useful in the national parks to pay Thai prices.

[khunPer]

1 hour ago, gearbox said:

My DL was renewed with the yellow book but still has my name in English.

Be happy for that, then your Thai driver's license in accepted in some countries abroad...

 

1 hour ago, gearbox said:

I think I've done 3 trips to Nathan and paid 1K baht for translation of my passport in Thai. If you can't read or write Thai you'll need a Thai person to help you with the forms. You also need a "witness" to say they know you for a while.

You managed to do it much easier than I did for my Yellow House Book on Samui – it was like applyring for permanent residency, except I didn't need the language test and sing the national hymn (the staff at the tessa ban-office shall be happy that I didn't sing)...