Swedish man suspected of running sex network in Thailand

[NorthernRyland]

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Do NOT clip posts. I reported you for doing so. In a post about child exploitation it's critical that my posts are not misinterpreted.

It's not against the rules to clip posts, that's a feature to make following the discussion easier. Good day.

[Myran]

"Running sex network"? That's a very strange way of saying that the was producing and distributing child pornography.

[metisdead]

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Edited February 21, 2023 by metisdead

[Taboo2]

If convicted, I pray he gets life in the BKK Hilton.  They will take care of him.  Do not send him back to Sweden...their prisons are a joke.  Please keep him here for the special treatment that he deserves.

[simon43]

2 hours ago, d4dang said:

Before covid I was searching for a hotel/resort in Cambodia. One hotel site had photos of of half naked kids in the pool. Boys and girls about 10 years old. I reported it. The scum that run and use these sites should all be locked up forever. Give the guys that bust them huge rewards.

Um, surely anyone in a swimming pool will be 'half-naked', unless you are Muslim....  Sometimes people misinterpret innocent photos...

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, HauptmannUK said:

Firstly, according to the original source, only six instances out of the many thousands involved girls under 18. 

No, "In most of the cases, the victims are unidentified" Won't even react on the other BS

Edited February 21, 2023 by FritsSikkink

[FritsSikkink]

39 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

The original commenter suggested the children may have consented and thus weren't harmed. This is the point that all pedophiles makes. Better keep an eye on it because these things are becoming more mainstream and will likely be the next push in liberalizing sexuality (like gay marriage was not too long ago). Look up "minor attracted persons or MAPs"  to see what is being said.

Children can't consent, so whatever comes next is BS

[d4dang]

4 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Um, surely anyone in a swimming pool will be 'half-naked', unless you are Muslim....  Sometimes people misinterpret innocent photos...

there were many photos in the pool, by the pool and in the gardens....pubescent girls...the site was gone in about 24 hours...photos started with the hotel, rooms and restaurant....in Sihanoukville...looked good 

[proton]

These people, and some on here, have no idea how much devastation they cause to children's lives and their families. As somebody who had 2 suicides in my family caused by child abuse, and another life screwed up I hope he gets 20 years.

[IamNoone88]

If guilty, lock him up, throw away the key. I don't understand them, have no wish to understand them, much the same as I have no wish to understand all the gender nonsense the west seems to be distracted with.

[d4dang]

1 minute ago, proton said:

These people, and some on here, have no idea how much devastation they cause to children's lives and their families. As somebody who had 2 suicides in my family caused by child abuse, and another life screwed up I hope he gets 20 years.

My friend's 22 year old son was at a grad party when he went to the bar while his gf was in a hotel room with friends. His gf received a phone call. She ran to the balcony and jumped. It was her abusive father. The room was on the first floor and she landed in the garden and was spared serious injury. This was three weeks ago.

Proton is right. These abusers are evil and the harm never ends.

[NextG]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

One should be enough to lock him up.

A bit unreasonable if he simply captured a few pics of girls under eighteen unknowingly amongst ten of thousands. 
Not that I am defending his actions, since I know nothing about what he was doing. Though personally, a while back I met someone who said she was in her twenties, who turned out to be seventeen and had altered her ID card to that effect. 
So if inadvertent in the scheme of things, it may be an issue of pornography in general, as opposed to child pornography. Of course if it’s obvious that the person is underage/underdeveloped, you could argue that he should have not including it in whatever he was offering. 
Though on actually reading the article….and mention of schools, I think it’s best to step back from any defence of his character. 

 

Edited February 21, 2023 by NextG

[Mitkof Island]

Curious what YouTube channel out of Pattaya he has. Amazing that after all these years YouTube has not taken down the dozens of sex channels out of Thailand run by foreigners.

[BusyB]

2 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

I was just listening to a podcast and the guest said this is the exact reason he abandoned Liberalism, that being there was no liberal/secular argument against child sexual exploitation. This is a perfect example of that.

Well the guest is talking utter rot. What absolute twaddle.

 

Of course there are secular arguments against child sexual exploitation/paedophilia.

 

I certainly  wouldn't waste my time with any broadcaster/podcast that let that kind of intellectual garbage slip through unchallenged. Not fit to be on the air/net.

[Adumbration]

What a go getter.  An international digital child porn king pin at 23.

 

When I was his age I had only recently lost my virginity.

[NorthernRyland]

8 minutes ago, BusyB said:

Well the guest is talking utter rot. What absolute twaddle.

 

Of course there are secular arguments against child sexual exploitation/paedophilia.

 

I certainly  wouldn't waste my time with any broadcaster/podcast that let that kind of intellectual garbage slip through unchallenged. Not fit to be on the air/net.

Notice the sheer amount of child sexualization in the media today and compare that to 30 years ago and ask how we got here. It's a slippery slope and the direction it's going is obvious.

 

just one recent example is this: 

https://www.euronews.com/culture/2022/11/23/fashion-label-balenciaga-pulls-ads-featuring-children-with-bondage-teddy

 

[BusyB]

5 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

Notice the sheer amount of child sexualization in the media today and compare that to 30 years ago and ask how we got here. It's a slippery slope and the direction it's going is obvious.

 

just one recent example is this: 

https://www.euronews.com/culture/2022/11/23/fashion-label-balenciaga-pulls-ads-featuring-children-with-bondage-teddy

 

What does that have to do with my comment?

 

My comment says there are plenty of secular arguments against child sexual exploitation/paedophilia. And people who claim otherwise are talking rubbish. That's all.

[SatEng]

2 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

I was just listening to a podcast and the guest said this is the exact reason he abandoned Liberalism, that being there was no liberal/secular argument against child sexual exploitation. This is a perfect example of that.

I have to call <deleted> on this 

It is the liberal/secular movement that has been at the forefront of protecting children from sexual trafficking across most of the western world and pushing for legislation and punishment.

In Sweden, under which laws this guy will be prosecuted, it is a very liberal/secular party that has introduced the laws on purchasing prostitution and sex trafficking abroad, as well as increasing penalties for those at home.

It is the religious communities around the world who have sought to oppose this, whether Islam which has consistently condoned child marriage or Christian churches in Africa condoning the same as being "part of their culture" or in the US catholic church  supporting child marriage in many southern states, as well as harboring pedophiles within their clergy and shielding them from prosecution.

It is the Christian, right wing community in which most of the pedophiles are found today having committed crimes against children for years and been "protected" - because they are from that elite.

Stop with the unproven Qanon bull trying to slander any democrat politician for political gain and look to where the real problems have been - within the religious establishments in the US and elsewhere

 

[SatEng]

34 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

Notice the sheer amount of child sexualization in the media today and compare that to 30 years ago and ask how we got here. It's a slippery slope and the direction it's going is obvious.

 

just one recent example is this: 

https://www.euronews.com/culture/2022/11/23/fashion-label-balenciaga-pulls-ads-featuring-children-with-bondage-teddy

 

It is a bad choice to use this as an example of secular/liberal bias as the owner of Balenciaga is one of the prominent members of the Jewish community in Paris and a patron of the church in France including paying for the restoration of Notre-dame.

[Mac Mickmanus]

13 minutes ago, SatEng said:

It is a bad choice to use this as an example of secular/liberal bias as the owner of Balenciaga is one of the prominent members of the Jewish community in Paris and a patron of the church in France including paying for the restoration of Notre-dame.

Balenciaga is owned by the Kering Company 

[SatEng]

13 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Balenciaga is owned by the Kering Company 

Which is owned by Francois-Henri Pinault

[Thingamabob]

6 girls involved, under-age but not children. Disgraceful, but hardly the biggest story we've heard on this sad subject.

[metisdead]

An off topic post and an off topic reply have been removed.

[Bangkok Barry]

4 hours ago, racket said:

So he banged 4000 girls

Try reading the article again.

[Mac Mickmanus]

30 minutes ago, SatEng said:

Which is owned by Francois-Henri Pinault

And the advertising campaign had nothing to do with him , 

[gerritkaew]

Hé Will het his reward in jail..

[Pedrogaz]

Nice to see lots of moral self righteousness in the comments here. God, I'm there is something I hate more than child pornographers, it is sanctimonious, self righteous old men virtue signalling. Makes me want to puke.

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 hours ago, d4dang said:

Before covid I was searching for a hotel/resort in Cambodia. One hotel site had photos of of half naked kids in the pool. Boys and girls about 10 years old. I reported it. The scum that run and use these sites should all be locked up forever. Give the guys that bust them huge rewards.

Its quite normal and common for all people, kids included , to wear minimal clothes whilst swimming in swimming pools.

   Who did you report it to ?

Its not illegal to wear swimming costumes in swimming pools

[NorthernRyland]

2 hours ago, SatEng said:

It is the liberal/secular movement that has been at the forefront of protecting children from sexual trafficking across most of the western world and pushing for legislation and punishment.

 

Where has sexual liberation and the sexualization of children been coming from in the world over the past decades? Not Africa, Asia for the Middle East, It's coming from secular European and Anglo-sphere countries with the USA being the vanguard I would argue).

 

It's a big debate and not something we can't go into here but it's a undeniable fact something about these countries is promoting these ideas. That's why people are questioning what about secular liberalism is causing this and where's it's going.

 

Remember it wasn't that long ago Obama in the US said marriage was between a man a women. Fast forward today, transexuals are a protected class and sexual matters are being taught to younger and younger people in schools. Research this if you're not following the trends but it's pretty clear where it's leading and I argue it's baked into liberal mortality (no I'm not a Christian or Mulism etc... so don't ask me to answer for them).

[peter zwart]

A nice long stay at Bkk Hilton will do him good.