Dutch pensioner in court trying to get 4MB+ back from Thai woman official who conned him into buying house and land

[webfact]

Picture: Siam Rath

 

A man from Holland, Peter aged 62, went with his lawyer Nobi to the court in Udon Thani, NE Thailand yesterday to try and get more than 4 million baht back from a woman in the Provincial Administration Organisation in Isaan.

 

Peter thought marriage was in the offing with the Thai lady and transferred money for the buying of house and land.

 

He wanted to set up a family in Thailand and believed he had found the perfect partner.

 

Instead the Thai woman took his money - that he had borrowed from friends and a relative and the bank - and has refused to give it back after the relationship ended.

 

She claims that Peter only sent her 300-400,000 baht - he can talk to her about getting that, reported Siam Rath.

 

On 4th February lawyers from Nobita International had provided transfer and video evidence to the Ban Dung police in support of a fraud claim.

 

A summons was issued for Valentine's Day that the woman did not respond to.

 

A second summons will be issued next Tuesday regarding alleged fraud.

 

Picture: Siam Rath

 

Meanwhile the civil part of the case was presented to the Civil Court in Udon Thani yesterday by lawyer Nobi or Krissada Lohitdee who has taken up Peter's case.

 

He said: "We want to make an example of this Thai woman who has ripped off a foreigner. It's a negative image for Thailand."

 

Peter said there had been no contact with the woman since the matter blew up with the police and court.

 

He said he believed that his lawyers would get him justice.

 

When he gets his money he plans to return it to his elder sister, the bank and friends in Holland.

 

Then he will turn over a new leaf.

 

Clearly asked if he would marry a Thai in the future, Peter said who knows what the future will hold.

 

But he added:

 

"I won't be making the same mistake again. I still believe that most Thais are good people.

 

"It's not everyone (who is bad)."

 

He said he plans to return to Holland at the end of the month and return when the court reconvenes.

 

 

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[Shop mak]

Next time, buy a condo in your own name, Peter. 

Guess Peter never read Asean Now / Thaivisa.

[steven100]

Pete ...... i'm sorry to rain on your parade but TIT ... you've got two chances of getting your money back ... Buckley's & none ....   imo

[RandiRona]

24 minutes ago, webfact said:

Clearly asked if he would marry a Thai in the future, Peter said who knows what the future will hold.

 

But he added:

 

"I won't be making the same mistake again. I still believe that most Thais are good people.

They guy is still thinking with his ‘head’  but not with his head.

24 minutes ago, webfact said:

He said: "We want to make an example of this Thai woman who has ripped off a foreigner. It's a negative image for Thailand."

Good luck with that, btw above sentence can be used without ‘Woman’ in it and it is still effective.

[bkk6060]

I personally know of several of these in Pattaya.  Guys meet the girl online, get lots of attention promise marriage and buy a condo before they have even met.  It happens more then people think and I bet most feel so stupid and embarrassed you never hear about it.

[mikebell]

He has a snowball's chance in hell of winning; the floodgates would open.

[itsari]

8 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Pete ...... i'm sorry to rain on your parade but TIT ... you've got two chances of getting your money back ... Buckley's & none ....   imo

Since you are so sure of the outcome why not start a book .

I am not so sure .

There was a case of a Danish man who managed to recover his money from a Thai woman through the civil  court and i am quite sure there are other cases as well .

[worgeordie]

Between lawyer fees ,and traveling back and forward to Thailand,

for court appearances ,where the lady does not turn up ,  and case

goes on and on , he will be throwing good money after bad, makes

it worse he borrowed the money , next time think with the big head...

 

regards worgeordie

[Sharp]

He'll probably win due to media exposure (At the court) but unless she has assets it a paper win only!! 

[itsari]

4 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

He is forgetting to tell that he was still in a relationship in the Netherlands when he send the money. Then the Thai women in Thailand found out about that and ended the relationship.

However many friends he has makes no difference to the fact that he sent money for buying a house and he wants his money back .

Morals are not what the case is about .

[FritsSikkink]

4 minutes ago, itsari said:

However many friends he has makes no difference to the fact that he sent money for buying a house and he wants his money back .

Morals are not what the case is about .

Morals are not the case? He send money to buy a house and she did.

[SuperSilverHaze]

It's not everyone that's bad - just my future wife

 

 

Good luck bro

[SuperSilverHaze]

7 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Between lawyer fees ,and traveling back and forward to Thailand,

for court appearances ,where the lady does not turn up ,  and case

goes on and on , he will be throwing good money after bad, makes

it worse he borrowed the money , next time think with the big head...

 

regards worgeordie

But at least she loses.

[itsari]

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

Morals are not the case? He send money to buy a house and she did.

Then the court will be asked to have the woman sell the house for recovering the money .

 

 

[FritsSikkink]

2 minutes ago, SuperSilverHaze said:

It's not everyone that's bad - just my future wife

 

 

Good luck bro

He already had a wife while he was sending money to her.

[FritsSikkink]

1 minute ago, itsari said:

Then the court will be asked to have the woman sell the house for recovering the money .

 

 

Why, it was a gift. Which he did while married to someone else which he never told her.

Edited February 24, 2023 by FritsSikkink

[itsari]

8 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Why, it was a gift. Which he did while married to someone else which he never told her.

I have read nothing to suggest it was a gift . That's your words

[FritsSikkink]

1 minute ago, itsari said:

I have read nothing to suggest it was a gift . That's your words

Read more

[Pique Dard]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

A summons was issued for Valentine's Day that the woman did not respond to.

no wonder the woman didn't respond! a summons isn't  a proof of love

[itsari]

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

Read more

I have read this man's foolish transaction but there was no mention from him that the money was a gift . Maybe that is the woman's story.

[FritsSikkink]

8 minutes ago, itsari said:

I have read this man's foolish transaction but there was no mention from him that the money was a gift . Maybe that is the woman's story.

Sure the man can be trusted while he send so much money to a woman while he was with somebody else which he never told her.

[steven100]

54 minutes ago, itsari said:

Since you are so sure of the outcome why not start a book .

I am not so sure .

There was a case of a Danish man who managed to recover his money from a Thai woman through the civil  court and i am quite sure there are other cases as well .

" He said: "We want to make an example of this Thai woman who has ripped off a foreigner. It's a negative image for Thailand."

 

To me,   this sentence adds a slight 0.0001%  support to his case ....   nothing else really matters as she can state in court that it was a gift,  and the court have to abide by that.  Don't you think she will have the best lawyer in town also,  and how many time has this senario been played out ?   hundreds if not thousand,  so I doubt it will go in his favor otherwise it could be seen as opening the flood gates. 

 

[ikke1959]

Stupid and probably his money is lost as nobody "knows" where she is or lives now...I am wondering did he never read anything about foreign women and internet relations??? A bit strange for a Dutchman , as normally they do some research....only surf on the internet and you find similar cases....It will be an expensive lesson for him

[DrJack54]

Strange.

In the picture he doesn't look like a dill.

Guess images can be deceptive.

[itsari]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

Sure the man can be trusted while he send so much money to a woman while he was with somebody else which he never told her.

The court will look at what agreement the two had when the money was sent . I doubt if the court is interested in his infidelity .

[itsari]

43 minutes ago, steven100 said:

" He said: "We want to make an example of this Thai woman who has ripped off a foreigner. It's a negative image for Thailand."

 

To me,   this sentence adds a slight 0.0001%  support to his case ....   nothing else really matters as she can state in court that it was a gift,  and the court have to abide by that.  Don't you think she will have the best lawyer in town also,  and how many time has this senario been played out ?   hundreds if not thousand,  so I doubt it will go in his favor otherwise it could be seen as opening the flood gates. 

 

Lets hope the gates are opened as when they are closed it is detrimental for international trade in Thailand .

I have no idea how often this scenario has been played out . Often I am sure , Most individuals would not try and recover there money especially after having read the opinions of Asian Now.

 

[worgeordie]

1 hour ago, SuperSilverHaze said:

But at least she loses.

Only if he wins , he GAVE her the money , now wants it back, 

regards worgeordie

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Only if he wins , he GAVE her the money , now wants it back, 

regards worgeordie

Giving a fraudster money doesn't make it legal. It's still fraud. I'm not suggesting that this case is fraud. That's up to the court to decide.

Edited February 24, 2023 by ozimoron

[SuperSilverHaze]

5 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Only if he wins , he GAVE her the money , now wants it back, 

regards worgeordie

But there were clearly conditions. ALL financial transactions have conditions. She had no interest in marrying the guy and basically just ripped him off. If she were to have told him that up front would he have sent the money? No.

[Joseph98765]

2 hours ago, itsari said:

Since you are so sure of the outcome why not start a book .

I am not so sure .

There was a case of a Danish man who managed to recover his money from a Thai woman through the civil  court and i am quite sure there are other cases as well .

And I heard a case of a guy who was from a Motorcycle club (not sure Hells Angels or something like that...he was Aussie) that he got rip off from his Thai Girlfriend... and he went to her hometown and told her you have 30 min to transfer the money or your family will pay one way or another....