Bong shopping -- I'm confused

[Jingthing]

37 minutes ago, NextG said:

I’ll overlook your editing of my post. Don’t want you to overreact again. 

It's OK to edit posts if you are only responding to one part of the post.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, NextG said:

I simply noted that from the description of events that it seems quite a palaver. Device, gas lighters, fuel, cost…

But it seems fair comment is unwelcome. 

Getting to my personal happy place with weed is a journey, a process, with no hard and fast rules or time frames. My process will be different than others. I've already made mistakes and will likely make others. I'm also doing this by sampling different strains and oils to figure out what strains are best for me for different times of day  etc.

Where I happen to be at now involves decisions about vapes.

Keep with the Dynavap?

With fire or expensive heat conductor?

 

OR

 

Just buy a different vape with battery heating built in?

 

If so, which one?

 

I'm in no rush on this.

Edited April 24, 2023 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Incorrect. Anyone with a bit of experience would know this is wrong. THC and related terpenes vaporize (not burn/combust) at lower temps than the actual biomass/plant material. After you vape herb, you are left with ~ 80% weight in the form of brownish material.

 

"Physician, heal thyself."

 

Smoking and Vaping are completely different, both in action and in results. I'm surprised vaping works for smoking cessation as it is wholly unsatisfying compared to that feeling of inhaling real, combusted  "material". (Maybe it delivers nicotine effectively, which helps those addicted to it? I am a former cigarette/cigar smoker, pack a day.)

 

Your "update" reminded of Richard Pryor running down the street on fire, circa June 1980.

 

I think a battery-powered dry herb vaporizer is a much safer option than using a gas torch (while baked), and handling a hot metal tube. Yes, I know Dynavap users love their metal.

 

I use the Xvape Fog Pro, I bought it here. From Greenlungs I think. 5,950 I think. Great unit. The Pax 3 is also available here, but closer to 12,000, although it's on promotion sometimes for 10,000. That Fenix unit looks OK, decent reviews.

Thank you very very much for suggestions about vape models.

I will look into them 

[NextG]

59 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's OK to edit posts if you are only responding to one part of the post.

No, it is not. Would you like to check the rules or would you prefer me to report your action to see what happens?

[Rimmer]

28. You will not make changes to messages quoted from other members posts, except for purposes of shortening the quoted post. Do not shorten any post in a way that alters the context of the original post. Do not change the formatting of the post you are quoting.

[Jingthing]

30 minutes ago, NextG said:

No, it is not. Would you like to check the rules or would you prefer me to report your action to see what happens?

You do you.

Edited April 24, 2023 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, NextG said:

I simply noted that from the description of events that it seems quite a palaver. Device, gas lighters, fuel, cost…

But it seems fair comment is unwelcome. 

Snark is unwelcome.

[NextG]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Snark is unwelcome.

That’s your perception. I perceive you to be snarky, but I don’t make a drama over it. I made my point and you made yours. Move on. (You don’t need to reply. No replying will signify that you have moved on). 

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, NextG said:

That’s your perception. I perceive you to be snarky, but I don’t make a drama over it. I made my point and you made yours. Move on. (You don’t need to reply. No replying will signify that you have moved on). 

No need for stupid mind games.

 

GOODBYE

[opporna]

Mr DIY single flame is 62 baht and refills are 5 baht. Works great. 

[Jingthing]

51 minutes ago, opporna said:

Mr DIY single flame is 62 baht and refills are 5 baht. Works great. 

What exact fuel product do you use to refill?

Is it sold at DIY?

Does the nozzle fit or did you need an adapter?

 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, opporna said:

Mr DIY single flame is 62 baht and refills are 5 baht. Works great. 

Also is it mostly blue or yellow flame?

Blue is better.

[stoner]

is your mind set on vaping ? 

[Jingthing]

17 minutes ago, stoner said:

is your mind set on vaping ? 

Yah Mon, why wouldn't I be? 

 

 

[Jingthing]

Assuming I'm probably going to eventually move on from my Dynavap and now I'm sure I definitely won't be spending 5k baht just for a non fire heat source for it, this gets me into the complexities of choices with different vapes.

 

Watching the reviews they talk about a lot of preferences that I'm not at all clear about. Like full terpenes taste or not (trade offs there if so). Convection vs. conduction or mix. Puff style preferences (I have no idea). Different vapes suitable for different goals. 

 

Yeah I could buy five different vapes and experiment, but of course I won't. So there's a pretty good chance that whatever (self heating) vape that I buy after Dynavap will turn out not to be optimal. 

 

Yeah I can seeing missing the simple days of nickle bags and rolling joints.

[stoner]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Yah Mon, why wouldn't I be? 

 

 

there are other ways that when done right are clean and a much nicer experience. 

[gargamon]

On 3/31/2023 at 7:21 AM, Jingthing said:

The entire cannabis game is quite complicated these days.

Correct. And as it grows(pun intended) peope will concoct more and more complicated equipment to consume it, not necessarily because it's better but so they can make more money selling it. Not just the weed business does this. It is quite prevalent.

 

For example I started smoking shatter 6 or 8 months ago. Yes, I could go out and purchase a dab rig for up to ten thousand baht or more but I built my own using standard lab equipment purchased on shopee or lazada for less than 1000. Works great.

 

 

[gargamon]

Better pic from above. Couldn't edit.

 

[opporna]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Also is it mostly blue or yellow flame?

Blue is better.

 

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

What exact fuel product do you use to refill?

Is it sold at DIY?

Does the nozzle fit or did you need an adapter?

 

It has almost all blue flame. The refills are sold at MR DIY, little bottles for 5 baht. They are available at the Avenue Mr DIY, didn't see those cheap refills at Royal Garden. Other refills are available for a higher price as well (17 baht?), but the 5 baht ones work fine. There is no adapter for anything, the nozzle of the refill thingie goes in the bottom of the torch.

Edit: Forgot, here's a Chinese knockoff heater for only 2,000.

https://vi.aliexpress.com/i/1005005178875101.html

Edited April 24, 2023 by opporna

[NextG]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

No need for stupid mind games.

 

GOODBYE

I guess your reply meant that you hadn’t moved on. Hopefully you are over it now. 
 

[gargamon]

15 hours ago, NextG said:

That’s your perception. I perceive you to be snarky,

You're out to lunch. @Jingthing is the least snarky poster on this site. 

[stoner]

4 hours ago, gargamon said:

Better pic from above. Couldn't edit.

 

f ing awesome. 

[stoner]

all in 1 portable dab rig. no fuss no mess no bs no worry. just great clean smoke...... 1500b

Edited April 25, 2023 by stoner

[funky moped]

My set up , davinci iq2 on a little bong, burn at around 400-410 you get cool clouds of vapour, i also have the davinci iqc in the uk which works just as good but costs less. Well worth the money in my opinion, being an ex smoker i didn`t want to go back to burning the herb, almost a year down the line using  this setup  now and no craving smoking and still able to jog 8k every morning

[Jingthing]

Yeah the V3 which I'm definitely considering has an optional attachment that connects to a small bong.

Dynavap also connects. I should probably try it that way.

[Jingthing]

On 4/24/2023 at 7:18 PM, opporna said:

Mr DIY single flame is 62 baht and refills are 5 baht. Works great. 

Does DIY sell double or four flames?

 

My Dynavap was working with my original two flame when it worked.

 

Couldn't make a Bic work.

 

Bought a cheap single torch then the Dynavap didn’t click so combustion.

 

Got a single torch from Lazada. 

 

Its defective. Gets too hot to use quickly. Vape doesn't click.

 

I'm close to throwing the Dynavap (which as I said I suspect is a copy) out my window!

 

Looking into the Fenix line.

 

Forgetting the mini I'm leaning towards the Pro.

 

Convection so can taste the terps.

 

The 2.0 is reviewed as producing somewhat better vape than the Pro but the Pro reportedly is unusually easy to clean.

 

That tradeoff makes sense to me for the Pro.

 

https://vapefully.com/product/fenix-pro-vaporizer/#cgkit-tab-description

[n00dle]

On 3/31/2023 at 8:21 PM, Jingthing said:

The entire cannabis game is quite complicated these days. Perhaps you missed my goal -- to be as gentle to my lungs as possible (without not smoking at all).

 

On that note, I have bought some HEMP WICK which is great because with it you can light your bowl without smoking toxins from lighters or matches.

i think you are overlooking how a bong works. you do not need to pack the chamber to capacity with smoke to use a bong.

every quality bong has a carb, either it is a hole on the cylider body or a bowl you can lift. Simply pull the smoke through the water and when you figure you have enough lift the carb and pull the smoke out unrestricted. 

You also dont need to empty the chamber in one hit. smoke what you want, exhale and then take another "sip".

i have been using bongs for years, and you dont need to kill yourself. 

  

[n00dle]

On 4/24/2023 at 2:13 PM, NextG said:

No, it is not. Would you like to check the rules or would you prefer me to report your action to see what happens?

i personally could not care less what you do. i know what kind of person you are now. 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, n00dle said:

i think you are overlooking how a bong works. you do not need to pack the chamber to capacity with smoke to use a bong.

every quality bong has a carb, either it is a hole on the cylider body or a bowl you can lift. Simply pull the smoke through the water and when you figure you have enough lift the carb and pull the smoke out unrestricted. 

You also dont need to empty the chamber in one hit. smoke what you want, exhale and then take another "sip".

i have been using bongs for years, and you dont need to kill yourself. 

  

Believe me I know all of that and more.

I was a teenaged pot head for several years.

My current bong is small so I wouldn't be sipping from that. 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, n00dle said:

i personally could not care less what you do. i know what kind of person you are now. 

Yes.

The ignore list is a handy tool.