British man arrested for 'human trafficking' raid at bar in Thai resort as dozens of women are loaded into police truck

[Jiggo]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

And I thought it was known globally as the Family friendly resort.

This comes as quite a shock.

More like a Russian enclave 

 

[Chang_paarp]

It is good the police allowed the gentleman to go to the ATM to get his "bail" money.

[sammieuk1]

Looks like a storm in an A cup to me ????

[bigt3116]

3 hours ago, AdamRich said:

That is because most people do not understand the definition of human trafficking. It is not saying the person is doing something against their will. It merely means the facilitation of a person from one place to another for the purpose of paid sex. So if the manager paid for a ticket from Isaan to Pattaya for a girl to work at the bar then that is human trafficking. If you paid a bar girl from Pattaya to go on holiday to Krabi with you, then that is also human trafficking.

"Human trafficking, also known as trafficking in persons, is a crime that involves compelling or coercing a person to provide labor or services, or to engage in commercial sex acts. The coercion can be subtle or overt, physical or psychological."

 

Not just sex.

[smedly]

we will never hear of this again - as if by magic he will have complied and be right back were he left off

[Ralf001]

51 minutes ago, Gknrd said:

Just another farang working illegally in Thailand. That is a Thai job not a farang.

 

Nightwish group does not provide work permits ?

 

If thats the case then a lot of foreign "managers" in soi 6 will be rather nervous !!

[Ralf001]

52 minutes ago, Darksidedude said:

Yet another bar owner not wanting to supply brown envelopes, cant win there

another clueless poster that thinks the foreigner arrested is the owner !!

 

[hotchilli]

33 minutes ago, Jiggo said:

More like a Russian enclave 

 

TAT will reap what it sows, with Russians 10-fold.

[Bangkok Barry]

3 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

There were quite a few Thai girls working there at the time,

One of Thailand's most successful exports, with Thai girls working in 'public relations' in every large European city while also serving to encourage people to visit LOS to enjoy the company of those in similar employment.

[goatfarmer]

3 hours ago, AdamRich said:

That is because most people do not understand the definition of human trafficking. It is not saying the person is doing something against their will. It merely means the facilitation of a person from one place to another for the purpose of paid sex. So if the manager paid for a ticket from Isaan to Pattaya for a girl to work at the bar then that is human trafficking. If you paid a bar girl from Pattaya to go on holiday to Krabi with you, then that is also human trafficking.

The term in Thai law is pretty well defined: (italics added)
Section 6. Whoever, for the purpose of exploitation, commits any of the following acts: (1) procuring, buying, selling, vending, bringing from or sending to, detaining or confining, harbouring, or receipt of any person, by means of threat or use of force, abduction, fraud, deception, abuse of power, or giving money or benefits to a guardian or caretaker of the person to achieve the consent of the guardian or caretaker of such person to allow the offender to exploit the person under his or her control; or (2) procuring, buying, selling, vending, bringing from or sending to, detaining or confining, harbouring, or receipt of a child; shall be guilty of human trafficking.

 

Merely giving a bus ticket or taking a paid person on a holiday would not fall within this definition. 

 

 http://web.krisdika.go.th/data/outsitedata/outsite21/file/ANTI_HUMAN_TRAFFICKING_ACT,B.E._2551_(2008).pdf

[bang saen guy]

Why is the owner of the bar not in jail? His responsibility

[DPKANKAN]

13 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

One of the other media reports I read on this incident seemed to be saying that all the age 18+ women bar workers that the police rounded up in this raid were being taken to the police station to be interviewed for information regarding the criminal case against the two primary suspects -- not because the young women themselves were underage.

 

Ferrang doing job reserved for Thais only of course!!!!????????????????

[brianthainess]

14 hours ago, Social Media said:

Thailand's seedy 'Sin City' resort of Pattaya.

 

13 hours ago, webfact said:

packed with dozens of sex bars

That can't be correct Pattaya is a family resort, that has no prostitutes, surely the RTP didn't fib 

[brianthainess]

Named the Brit before being found guilty. 

[kennw]

3 hours ago, spermwhale said:

More like they came on their own accord to make money again like many other rural girls. I have not met a single bar girl who is an indentured servant and is not there of her own free will. Plust they were all above 18 and no drugs were found.

 

Interesting that they singled this bar out though, considering that every other bar has the same types of girls, young and who came from upcountry. BUTif the cops  really tried to dig deeper they would surely find really illegal operations where minors are held. 

 

Someone posted above that perhaps they didn't bribe the boys in brown, which sounds about right. 

Probably negotiations about the amount broke down.

[actonion]

A job reserved for Thai's 

[Maejo Man]

No drugs found and all the girls were over the age limit. It's just a question of insufficient funds being made available to the police benevolent fund. Why single out this bar among hundreds of others?

[jacko45k]

46 minutes ago, bang saen guy said:

Why is the owner of the bar not in jail? His responsibility

What is the crime?

[ChipButty]

In my experience of living here many years it will not be the farang who is doing the recruitment of the girls from sticky rice land, 

[NanLaew]

12 hours ago, swinginglow said:

In the international press now brit arrested for human trafficking. Good positive press for the family resort there.

Nothing burger. Families don't go to Soi 6 and most of them probably don't even know it exists.

[kinyara]

How could Pattaya's very own Rupert Murdoch and his bastion of quality journalism have missed this story, I'm shocked I tell you. ????

Edited April 8, 2023 by kinyara
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[JohnHans]

14 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

Done what all do.

Nothing substantial found.

And now?

When will all the other bars on Soi 6 be raided and carried to police station.

Seems a case of missing connections/bribes.

 

Being ferried: are they thrown in barred buses and carted to Pattaya?

Carrying ankle tags to avoid fleeing?

Hypocrisy to it's best.

Prostitution in thailand is ILEGAL. Usually Thais run these whore houses masquerading as beer bars. 
How about the authorities arrest all owners of these so called "Beer Bars" lets see if the Thai people will be ok with that?

[Jumbo1968]

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

Nightwish group does not provide work permits ?

 

If thats the case then a lot of foreign "managers" in soi 6 will be rather nervous !!

Not just Soi 6, loads of farang bar managers in Pattaya, some one must be ‘issuing’ work permits to them if it’s a job they are not permitted to do ?

Edited April 8, 2023 by Jumbo1968

[jimn]

4 minutes ago, JohnHans said:

Prostitution in thailand is ILEGAL. Usually Thais run these whore houses masquerading as beer bars. 
How about the authorities arrest all owners of these so called "Beer Bars" lets see if the Thai people will be ok with that?

A clueless post. This may be true up country but not in Pattaya.

[Parker2100]

15 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

Done what all do.

Nothing substantial found.

And now?

When will all the other bars on Soi 6 be raided and carried to police station.

Seems a case of missing connections/bribes.

 

Being ferried: are they thrown in barred buses and carted to Pattaya?

Carrying ankle tags to avoid fleeing?

Hypocrisy to it's best.

They do the minimum they need to do to look like they are enforcing the law.  It also does not help that there was a Westerner involved.  Wouldn't look as good if the establishment was 100% local owned.

 

 

[VocalNeal]

Lucky they didn't find a laptop. Otherwise add computer crime to the list.????

[RandolphGB]

1 hour ago, kinyara said:

How could Pattaya's very own Rupert Murdoch and his bastion of quality journalism have missed this story, I'm shocked I tell you. ????

The Elon Musk of the East will have his excuses ready. 

[fulhamster]

1 hour ago, Maejo Man said:

No drugs found and all the girls were over the age limit. It's just a question of insufficient funds being made available to the police benevolent fund. Why single out this bar among hundreds of others?

You've answered your own question

[TPI]

Doesn't the Law allow workers as young as 16 in Pattaya? It seems obvious that certain "licences" have not been obtained every month! Tsk tsk!

[TheFishman1]

A British guy doing business that is reserved for thia only TIT