Opposition builds to the magic of Khaosad 420 on World Cannabis Day

[snoop1130]

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In celebration of World Cannabis Day on April 20, an event called Khaosad 420 is scheduled to take place on Khao San Road and Ram Buttri Road in Bangkok. The event intends to bring together cannabis users to smoke ganja together. However, Thai netizens and the Bhum Jai Thai Party have expressed their opposition to the event and are urging the organizers to cancel it. According to a report on Channel 7, the Khaosan 420 event will also feature a cannabis parade along the roads.

 

Some Thai netizens and researchers have expressed disagreement with the event. They argue that public cannabis use is against the law and that the event would primarily be for personal enjoyment rather than medical benefits. Moreover, they fear that the event could create the false impression that cannabis can be used freely without consequences.

 

The Bhum Jai Thai Party, led by Deputy Prime Minister and Public Health Ministry Anutin Charnvirakul, is also opposed to the event. The party’s representative, Suppachai Jaisamut, emphasized that cannabis should only be used for medical purposes, and activities related to it should be carried out within the bounds of the law.

 

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[Bim Smith]

Some hold this country back. I don't use it but it's way safer than alcohol 

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Bhum Jai Thai Party, led by Deputy Prime Minister and Public Health Ministry Anutin Charnvirakul, is also opposed to the event. The party’s representative, Suppachai Jaisamut, emphasized that cannabis should only be used for medical purposes, and activities related to it should be carried out within the bounds of the law.

This was Anutins vote buying plan all along, medical use only he said.

The usual Thai free-for-all ensued.

He knows every user and every business will vote for him.

[hotchilli]

57 minutes ago, Bim Smith said:

Some hold this country back. I don't use it but it's way safer than alcohol 

Like alcohol to some it's a stepping stone to harder misuse.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

Lots of people worldwide agree that it makes sense to legalize drugs to remove the criminal distribution network when these drugs are illegal.

And they also agree that drugs should not be promoted. Like cigarettes now (in Thailand). They are available but without advertisement.

It seems Thai politicians missed the second part. I hope one day they will ban the promotion of any drugs. 

[kennw]

2 hours ago, Bim Smith said:

Some hold this country back. I don't use it but it's way safer than alcohol 

Like to know your qualifications to make such a statement, or is it a personal opinion

[RocketDog]

54 minutes ago, kennw said:

Like to know your qualifications to make such a statement, or is it a personal opinion

Clinging to this decades-old mythology is like sweeping sand off the beach: your job is never done and your efforts go unnoticed.

Maybe beating a dead horse would be a more fulfilling hobby.

[LukKrueng]

10 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

the event would primarily be for personal enjoyment rather than medical benefits

And what's wrong with personal enjoyment? Many would argue that enjoyment carries health benefits.

[Bday Prang]

"personal enjoyment" well we can't have any of that nonsense can we?

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, kennw said:

Like to know your qualifications to make such a statement, or is it a personal opinion

I can agree ... and that's through personal experience.  Along with observations of others.   Potheads are less dangerous than Alkys, along with seemingly more health issues from alcohol.  IMHO & experiences

[KhunLA]

13 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

"personal enjoyment" well we can't have any of that nonsense can we?

Nothing, by why flaunt it, with a public event, counter to the law itself.

 

Just giving the naysayers what they want  .... an excuse/reason to restrict it's personal use for enjoyment.

Edited April 20, 2023 by KhunLA

[Snig27]

2 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Like alcohol to some it's a stepping stone to harder misuse.

Have you thought about offering up this ‘evidence’ to science. They’ve been looking this link for close to a century and failed to find it. And you have…

[JayBird]

3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Like alcohol to some it's a stepping stone to harder misuse.

 

So, ban alcohol?

[HK MacPhooey]

3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Like alcohol to some it's a stepping stone to harder misuse.

 

Like alcohol to some it's a stepping stone to harder misuse but that shouldn't preclude the vast majority of others from using and enjoying it as they see fit.

[HK MacPhooey]

2 hours ago, kennw said:

Like to know your qualifications to make such a statement, or is it a personal opinion

Think he's just using his common sense and personal experience which most enlightened and free thinking people would probably agree with. 

[hotchilli]

11 minutes ago, JayBird said:

So, ban alcohol?

I didn't indicate banning anything.

I said like alcohol to some people cannabis is a stepping stone to harder drugs.

Regulation is the only way to go.

And so far that has been farcical at best.

[hotchilli]

7 minutes ago, HK MacPhooey said:

Like alcohol to some it's a stepping stone to harder misuse but that shouldn't preclude the vast majority of others from using and enjoying it as they see fit.

Exactly, but lets have a clear law first before allowing the free for all to continue as it is.

Anutin pushed the use first before the laws were clear.

 

Just as a side note, Anutin initially said it was for medicinal use only, so when did the majority of others using and enjoying it creep in?

Edited April 20, 2023 by hotchilli

[ignore it]

Can they reschedule Songkran so it doesn't interfere?

[crazykopite]

I don’t do any form of drugs but theses parties need to wake up and listen to the public otherwise they will lose May seats in the GE . Thailands economy can grow like no tomorrow with the change of law regarding the introduction of weed . 

[Denim]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Nothing, by why flaunt it, with a public event, counter to the law itself.

 

Just giving the naysayers what they want  .... an excuse/reason to restrict it's personal use for enjoyment.

Exactly. Smokers working towards a crackdown or ban. 

 

They need to learn how to be discrete if they want to smoke. 

[Emster23]

1 hour ago, HK MacPhooey said:

Like alcohol to some it's a stepping stone to harder misuse but that shouldn't preclude the vast majority of others from using and enjoying it as they see fit.

Alcohol doesn't need a stepping stone to something worse... alcoholism and all the health problems that stem from from abuse are enough in and of themselves.

I don't smoke pot any more (quit around 1985) and rarely drink.

People high on pot are far less dangerous than people drunk on their arses

[n00dle]

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Like alcohol to some it's a stepping stone to harder misuse.

 

what is your point?

[MrJ2U]

3 hours ago, kennw said:

Like to know your qualifications to make such a statement, or is it a personal opinion

What's your qualifications for saying it's not?

 

Alcohol is definitely bad for you, physically, mentally,and socially. 

 

You don't need a P.H.D. to know that. 

 

 "Alcohol Use and Your Health"

 

https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm

 

"Alcohol abuse"

 

https://www.health.harvard.edu/addiction/alcohol-abuse

 

 

 

  

 

 

Edited April 20, 2023 by MrJ2U

[hotchilli]

28 minutes ago, n00dle said:

what is your point?

I lost a good friend when I was younger.

He started to try cannabis, said it was just like a cigarette.

Then it wasn't enough, so he tried other substances.

Then they weren't enough, when at university he got in with an older crowd.

Lets just say three years later he was on heroin and eventually died.

I'm not saying ban cannabis, but it's use and availability has to be controlled.

Too many young people get on it for a joke, and then find they can't handle it.

[n00dle]

Just now, hotchilli said:

I lost a good friend when I was younger.

He started to try cannabis, said it was just like a cigarette.

Then it wasn't enough, so he tried other substances.

Then they weren't enough, when at university he got in with an older crowd.

Lets just say three years later he was on heroin and eventually died.

I'm not saying ban cannabis, but it's use and availability has to be controlled.

Too many young people get on it for a joke, and then find they can't handle it.

Can you honestly tell me he hadnt tried alcohol before he tried weed? Why arent you blaming alcohol for his death?

while i comsierate with the loss of your freind, bad choices killed him not cannabis. By your logic, univeristy is as much to blame as weed here. If he hadnt gone to school he wouldnt have met that older crowd.  Actually, maybe the older crowd are to blame. 

As for heroin, it is very controlled, illegal in fact, but he still managed to find that. Why arent you blaming the police for his death?

 



 

[MrJ2U]

10 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

I lost a good friend when I was younger.

He started to try cannabis, said it was just like a cigarette.

Then it wasn't enough, so he tried other substances.

Then they weren't enough, when at university he got in with an older crowd.

Lets just say three years later he was on heroin and eventually died.

I'm not saying ban cannabis, but it's use and availability has to be controlled.

Too many young people get on it for a joke, and then find they can't handle it.

I don't think many Thais even smoke pot.   Maybe it's a bigger thing in Bangkok?

 

Plenty of raging alcholics and YaBa addicts though. 

 

In my opinion marrijaunna is pretty tame compared to anything that is out there.

 

Honestly though,  I've yet to see anyone smoking pot in our village let alone abuse it. 

[hotchilli]

23 minutes ago, n00dle said:

Can you honestly tell me he hadnt tried alcohol before he tried weed? Why arent you blaming alcohol for his death?

He was a very social drinker, not an alcoholic.... but the need for drugs controlled him form the day he started cannabis.

[hotchilli]

24 minutes ago, n00dle said:

while i comsierate with the loss of your freind, bad choices killed him not cannabis. By your logic, univeristy is as much to blame as weed here. If he hadnt gone to school he wouldnt have met that older crowd.  Actually, maybe the older crowd are to blame.

Yes the older crowd participated in his demise, he had the craving and they happily supplied him.. ultimately it was his choice, but it started with cannabis.

[hotchilli]

26 minutes ago, n00dle said:

As for heroin, it is very controlled, illegal in fact, but he still managed to find that. Why arent you blaming the police for his death?

I don't blame the police, as I don't in Thailand for failing in their duty.

Drugs will always be available if one wants to chase them.

My point was what started as a "safe recreational" smoke tuned into something far sinister for him.

And that same fate will be waiting for some Thai youths who think it's cool to smoke cannabis.

 

[n00dle]

1 minute ago, hotchilli said:

I don't blame the police, as I don't in Thailand for failing in their duty.

Drugs will always be available if one wants to chase them.

My point was what started as a "safe recreational" smoke tuned into something far sinister for him.

And that same fate will be waiting for some Thai youths who think it's cool to smoke cannabis.

 

just like alcoholism will await some teenagers who dirnk their first beer or obesity awaits a nation that embraces KFC. 

thats where education and personal resonsibilty come into play. 

Kids are drinking less now because they have better information. Weed should be treated similarly.