Exclusive: Britain has delivered long-range ‘Storm Shadow’ cruise missiles to Ukraine ahead of expected counteroffensive, sources say

[onthedarkside]

 

The United Kingdom has supplied Ukraine with multiple Storm Shadow cruise missiles, giving Ukrainian forces a new long-range strike capability in advance of a highly anticipated counteroffensive against Russian forces, multiple senior Western officials told CNN.

 

The Storm Shadow is a long-range cruise missile with stealth capabilities, jointly developed by the UK and France, which is typically launched from the air. With a firing range in excess of 250km, or 155 miles, it is just short of the 185-mile range capability of the US-made surface-to-surface Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS, that Ukraine has long asked for.

 

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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/uk-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-ukraine/index.html

 

[Bkk Brian]

This is excellent news, usually launched from a fighter plane. Give the orcs some of their own medicine back.

 

"I suspect there will be more nuclear threats from a certain someone tonight" 

 

 

[scottiejohn]

Great news but what aircraft does Ukraine have that can integrate the missile and use it effectively.   

[transam]

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

Great news but what aircraft does Ukraine have that can integrate the missile and use it effectively.   

I think they would have looked into that............☺️

[scottiejohn]

1 minute ago, transam said:

I think they would have looked into that............☺️

And the answer is "what aircraft"!

[transam]

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

And the answer is "what aircraft"!

No idea..........????

[asf6]

Does Ukraine have any aircraft left? 

 

 

 

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Edited May 11, 2023 by asf6

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

And the answer is "what aircraft"!

MiG-29 Fulcrum and Sukhoi Su-27

 

Poland's President Andrzej Duda said last week that his country had already delivered eight MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine and added that it was able to send the whole remaining fleet, which would include those of German origin. Apart from Poland, Slovakia has also committed to send MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-ukraine-poland-mig29-fighter-jet-russia-war/

Edited May 11, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[onthedarkside]

Off topic post removed.

[scottiejohn]

55 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

MiG-29 Fulcrum and Sukhoi Su-27

 

Poland's President Andrzej Duda said last week that his country had already delivered eight MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine and added that it was able to send the whole remaining fleet, which would include those of German origin. Apart from Poland, Slovakia has also committed to send MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-ukraine-poland-mig29-fighter-jet-russia-war/

But how long will it take to integrate the weapon with the platform.

It will probably be easier to integrate into older aircraft depending on their computer interface specs given that the original Storm Shadow design is now nearly 30 years old.  It depends which version they are getting!

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

But how long will it take to integrate the weapon with the platform.

It will probably be easier to integrate into older aircraft depending on their computer interface specs given that the original Storm Shadow design is now nearly 30 years old.  It depends which version they are getting!

No idea, do you not think they've already thought about that and put in place the necessary measures to ensure it all integrates?

 

You asked about what planes, I gave you the info, any more info I suggest you do what I do and search.......

[scottiejohn]

31 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No idea, do you not think they've already thought about that and put in place the necessary measures to ensure it all integrates?

 

You asked about what planes, I gave you the info, any more info I suggest you do what I do and search.......

You have just mentioned two aircraft which we all know the Ukrainians have!

 

It does not answer my question which I assumed most people would have understood (wrongly) as to which ones they have integrated them into and (unstated) how.   It is not a piece of Lego that you just stick on the aircraft, the word is "integration" of a weapon system into and onto an aircraft,

Where was the integration done, which version(s), who did it and to what aircraft etc?  You do not integrate new weapon systems overnight!

Is it just a publicity stunt/fog of war deception statement!

[Tug]

Does this weapon have to be launched from an aircraft?also the Ukrainian nation has a long vibrant history with aircraft designs and manufacturing im absolutely sure they would be able to build something capable in short order slava Ukraine ???????? evict the criminal invaders from your country!

[onthedarkside]

UPDATE: Russia threatens 'military response' after UK gives long-range missiles to Ukraine

 

 

The UK has been threated with a "military response" by Russia after pledging to send long-range missiles to Ukraine.

 

The UK's defence secretary said Storm Shadow missiles will be provided to Ukraine's military - and Sky News understands that some of the missiles are already with Ukrainian troops.

 

In response to reports the deal had been done, Moscow said the move would require an "adequate response from our military".

 

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-threatens-military-response-after-uk-gives-long-range-missiles-to-ukraine-12878786

 

[ballpoint]

More analysis from CNN on just how these missiles may be used, and their importance.

 

 

[rabas]

On 5/11/2023 at 9:05 PM, scottiejohn said:

You have just mentioned two aircraft which we all know the Ukrainians have!

 

It does not answer my question which I assumed most people would have understood (wrongly) as to which ones they have integrated them into and (unstated) how.   It is not a piece of Lego that you just stick on the aircraft, the word is "integration" of a weapon system into and onto an aircraft,

Where was the integration done, which version(s), who did it and to what aircraft etc?  You do not integrate new weapon systems overnight!

Is it just a publicity stunt/fog of war deception statement!

Your asking the wrong question. The only important question is what will they shoot.

 

The chance of them telling you that is as small as answering your technical questions about systems integration during war time. The Russians would also love to know.

 

Now if you will excuse me, I have a bridge to find on a map.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/military-expert-storm-shadow-capabilities-170700132.html

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On 5/11/2023 at 7:17 PM, scottiejohn said:

But how long will it take to integrate the weapon with the platform.

It will probably be easier to integrate into older aircraft depending on their computer interface specs given that the original Storm Shadow design is now nearly 30 years old.  It depends which version they are getting!

Ukraine's Storm Shadow Missiles Are A Big Problem For Russia

"As to how the Storm Shadow will be employed, that’s unclear, although Wallace seemed to indicate that it would be air-launched, and not adapted for a ground launcher. He said that part of the reason for the time it has taken to get the missile to Ukraine was due to “working out if it was technically feasible” to integrate them on unfamiliar aircraft."

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraines-storm-shadow-missiles-big-171346915.html

[Bkk Brian]

Possibly the first known case use of the Storm Shadow

 

Luhansk factory hit in apparent Ukrainian missile strike

Luhansk regional Governor Artem Lisohor suggested the facility was used by Russian forces to repair and resupply military vehicles.

"Somehow, a machine-building factory caught fire; not hard to guess what the Russians were storing and repairing there," Lisohor said in a Telegram post.

Open-source intelligence analysis team GeoConfirmed confirmed that "cruise missiles" struck at least two targets in Luhansk. The city is located more than 80 km from the front lines.

https://news.yahoo.com/luhansk-factory-hit-apparent-ukrainian-201200748.html

 

Alleged Storm Shadow fragments:

 

 

[kwonitoy]

Working as advertised

[BarraMarra]

Who cares a potential target was identified and taken out.

[billd766]

And the Russians are crying about this, at the same time that they are launching drones and missiles made in Iran.

 

Boo hoo hoo

 

[Roadman]

On 5/14/2023 at 4:04 AM, kwonitoy said:

Working as advertised

There was more than one strike in Luhansk Oblast from missiles which the Russians are keeping numb on. There was definitely more than the one building hit with some reports claiming up to five. The other additive was there was American ADM-160Bs dummy missiles (which basically confuse the Russian radars) in front of the Storm Shadows. Well done UK for supplying and to Germany and USA for the latest $4 billion of weapons and aid.

 

And for the Kerch bridge target comment...yes it would be awesome but the Storm Shadows are radar detected over water and only range at the moment they would have to some over the Sea of Avoz. Only way for success is they have to come over land which would mean being launched in Kherson and coming around over Crimea. But Ukraine would need to take the rest of Kherson Oblast on the south side of the Dnipro River to get the range. Thats on who you believe as there is all sorts of range for the Storm Shadow but most reliable seems to be 250km. 

 

And good news on top of the soils drying and letting the Leopards and other toys loose for more open country Orc roundups and Stampedes, on top of the Bakhmut Orc Stampede/Roundup is Ukraine forces are breaking through Russian lines just above Svatove in the very north. 

 

   

[Kwasaki]

On 5/11/2023 at 9:05 PM, scottiejohn said:

You have just mentioned two aircraft which we all know the Ukrainians have!

 

It does not answer my question which I assumed most people would have understood (wrongly) as to which ones they have integrated them into and (unstated) how.   It is not a piece of Lego that you just stick on the aircraft, the word is "integration" of a weapon system into and onto an aircraft,

Where was the integration done, which version(s), who did it and to what aircraft etc?  You do not integrate new weapon systems overnight!

Is it just a publicity stunt/fog of war deception statement!

How are Storm Shadow missiles launched?

Another point to note on the Storm Shadow is that it can only be air launched at the moment, from a Eurofighter Typhoon jet.4 days ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk › news

Storm Shadow missiles to Ukraine 

 

Very confused news as usual.

Edited May 16, 2023 by Kwasaki

[scottiejohn]

Su-24 and Su-27 can carry a Storm Shadow missile, but not program it (bulgarianmilitary.com)

According to the link the missile is too heavy for some Ukrainian warplanes but the Su-24/27 can carry them.  It also states that if the aircraft cannot be modified to integrate the missile into their weapon control system the missile can still be pre-programmed on the ground pre take off and launched at predetermined targets.

 

Edited May 16, 2023 by scottiejohn
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[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

How are Storm Shadow missiles launched?

Another point to note on the Storm Shadow is that it can only be air launched at the moment, from a Eurofighter Typhoon jet.4 days ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk › news

Storm Shadow missiles to Ukraine 

 

Very confused news as usual.

I'm sure the Russians would love to know all the details and which planes they can look out for to target.

 

In the meantime it looks like France is following suit with long range missiles, they also develop the Storm Shadow but call it SCALP-EG.

[Kwasaki]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I'm sure the Russians would love to know all the details and which planes they can look out for to target.

 

In the meantime it looks like France is following suit with long range missiles, they also develop the Storm Shadow but call it SCALP-EG.

Yeah I sort of get the feeling UK is good at supporting Ukraine with  getting a lead in trying to get Europe and USA to give better more sophisticated weapons to which they seem reluctant to do. 

 

Looks like UK got Germany to up it's game and others starting with challenger tanks and now the long range missiles.

[herfiehandbag]

8 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

I'm sure the Russians would love to know all the details and which planes they can look out for to target.

 

In the meantime it looks like France is following suit with long range missiles, they also develop the Storm Shadow but call it SCALP-EG.

According to a report I saw the French are giving them Mirage 2000 fighters - no longer in use with the French but still a potent bit of kit. Pilots are already training in France. 40 aircraft I heard.

[onthedarkside]

UPDATE: Ukraine has ‘successfully’ used UK-provided Storm Shadow missiles against Russia, British Defense Secretary tells CNN

 

Ukraine has “successfully” used the Storm Shadow missiles provided by the United Kingdom, British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace told CNN on Thursday.

 

“All I can confirm is it has been used successfully, that is the information I received from the Ukrainians, and I’m pleased it is helping them to defend their country,” Wallace told CNN’s Jim Sciutto in an exclusive interview on “News Central.”

 

The Storm Shadow missiles, the longest-range weapon in Ukraine’s arsenal, were just recently given to Kyiv ahead of an anticipated counteroffensive against the Russian military. The long-range cruise missile has stealth capabilities and a firing range of more than 250km, or 155 miles.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/18/politics/ben-wallace-cnn-interview/index.html

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Looks like the mystery has been solved, the Storm Shadow missiles are launched from a Su-24