Thai-Finnish couple suspected of pimping for decades

[webfact]

 

by Miabell Mallikka

A Thai-Finnish couple in their 60’s is suspected of running a prostitution-ring through Thai massage parlors in six locations around Finland since 2014.

 

The Helsinki police department’s national human trafficking team has wrapped up its investigation of the suspected prostitution scheme.

 

The suspected scheme took place in the cities of Joensuu, Kuopio, Mikkeli, Jyväskylä, Kokkola and Seinäjoki.

 

The suspects knew

The woman is suspected of subletting Thai massage shops on fixed-term leases ranging from a few weeks to a month. The renters were from Thailand and sold sex services on the premises.

 

Full story: https://scandasia.com/thai-finnish-couple-suspected-of-pimping-for-decades/

 

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[JoePai]

Nothing new e.g. look at the Thai massage shops in the UK

[ThailandRyan]

Just an extension it appears of the Massage places here in country and then the ones I have seen in other places throughout Asia.  As the linked article expands on the OP, I did not realize that prostitution was legal in Finland. 

 

Yet this, clipped from the article, caught my eye since many of the Thai ladies involved had gone to Finland where they were married or been in a relationship and then when it went belly up well they turned to sex work.  Sad.

 

"Many of them had originally come to Finland because of marriage or relationships".

 

"The woman turned to sex work when their financial situation deteriorated after these relationships broke up. They lacked education and language skills that would have helped them get other kinds of work."

 

“Such exclusion from society is quite common among Thai sex workers in Finland. The Interior Ministry published a report on their status in Finland 15 years ago. The situation has not improved much since then,” the detective said.

Edited May 13, 2023 by ThailandRyan

[GregBow]

My maths is off. How is since 2014 decades?

[Pink Mist]

9 minutes ago, GregBow said:

My maths is off. How is since 2014 decades?

Please understand that Asean Now does not make up the headlines on the OP's.

 

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[SAFETY FIRST]

32 minutes ago, webfact said:

A Thai-Finnish couple in their 60’s is suspected of running a prostitution-ring through Thai massage parlors

I'm sure there would be 

Thai - Australian 

Thai - British 

Thai - American 

Thai - Canadian 

 

And so on couples doing the same thing. 

 

It's a good earner, Thai massage parlors 

Edited May 13, 2023 by SAFETY FIRST

[Upnotover]

16 minutes ago, GregBow said:

My maths is off. How is since 2014 decades?

Two. The last and the current.

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The woman is suspected of subletting Thai massage shops on fixed-term leases ranging from a few weeks to a month. The renters were from Thailand and sold sex services on the premises

You can take the Thai out of Thailand, but you can't take the Thailand out of the Thai?

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, GregBow said:

My maths is off. How is since 2014 decades?

Ask ScandAsia, it's their headline, not AN's.

[Pink Mist]

Troll posts have been removed

[proton]

3 hours ago, JoePai said:

Nothing new e.g. look at the Thai massage shops in the UK

Went to Thai house Northampton 1995, absolute scam 40 quid just to get in then it was a waste of time, they only offered massages! 

[OneMoreFarang]

And did all of them agree to those jobs? Or were they hired with inaccurate promises.

 

I heard from enough women in Thailand who worked in such jobs in other countries because they wanted to do that and make a lot of money.

[Bangkok Barry]

Prostitution of one of Thailand's most successful exports. They can be found over much of the world and even in small towns. The places named here in Finland are not exactly metropolises. Very enterprising of them. Especially when they discover, as the article says, that their Thai education counts for absolutely nothing in the real world.

[Skeptic7]

4 hours ago, JoePai said:

Nothing new e.g. look at the Thai massage shops in the UK

And Belgium, Netherlands, USA. The girls I've known chose to be there, NOT forced or coerced, and earn BANK ????❗

[Nong Khai Man]

2 hours ago, proton said:

Went to Thai house Northampton 1995, absolute scam 40 quid just to get in then it was a waste of time, they only offered massages! 

Serves You Right......555 !!

 

[HuskerDo2]

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Just an extension it appears of the Massage places here in country and then the ones I have seen in other places throughout Asia.  As the linked article expands on the OP, I did not realize that prostitution was legal in Finland. 

 

Yet this, clipped from the article, caught my eye since many of the Thai ladies involved had gone to Finland where they were married or been in a relationship and then when it went belly up well they turned to sex work.  Sad.

 

"Many of them had originally come to Finland because of marriage or relationships".

 

"The woman turned to sex work when their financial situation deteriorated after these relationships broke up. They lacked education and language skills that would have helped them get other kinds of work."

 

“Such exclusion from society is quite common among Thai sex workers in Finland. The Interior Ministry published a report on their status in Finland 15 years ago. The situation has not improved much since then,” the detective said.

"since many of the Thai ladies involved had gone to Finland where they were married or been in a relationship and then when it went belly up well they turned to sex work.".......

 

I don't feel bad for them. They weren't being forced. They could have returned to their home country at any time. 

[Pink Mist]

Off topic posts have been removed.  This OP has nothing to do with the US

[StayinThailand2much]

8 hours ago, JoePai said:

Nothing new e.g. look at the Thai massage shops in the UK

Another such well-reported (by ABC Australia) prostitution-ring with Thai lasses can be found along Australia's East Coast, with unofficial broth*** in Cairns, Townsville, Brisbane, etc. 

Edited May 13, 2023 by StayinThailand2much

[steven100]

44 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Another such well-reported (by ABC Australia) prostitution-ring with Thai lasses can be found along Australia's East Coast, with unofficial broth*** in Cairns, Townsville, Brisbane, etc. 

oh dear  '    that's shocking    !     what can we do ?    

[StayinThailand2much]

34 minutes ago, steven100 said:

oh dear  '    that's shocking    !     what can we do ?    

I'd volunteer for paid field research...

[Drumbuie]

2 hours ago, HuskerDo2 said:

"since many of the Thai ladies involved had gone to Finland where they were married or been in a relationship and then when it went belly up well they turned to sex work.".......

 

I don't feel bad for them. They weren't being forced. They could have returned to their home country at any time. 

Well, yes, they could - if their ex husband/partner had been thoughtful enough to make sure they could afford the air fare, and if they were in Helsinki, that would be easy.

But they were in smallish towns in a foreign country where the language is even harder to learn than Thai, the winters are brutally long, dark and cold and the natives are notoriously taciturn.

If they were well educated, resourceful and had a range of employable skills, they could have applied for more interesting and rewarding jobs in Finland - but if they were well-educated, resourceful with employable skills, they probably wouldn't have chosen to cohabit with/marry a Finn in the first place, would they?

[rattlesnake]

5 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

And Belgium, Netherlands, USA. The girls I've known chose to be there, NOT forced or coerced, and earn BANK ????❗

Same in France.

[rattlesnake]

9 hours ago, Upnotover said:

Two. The last and the current.

That would be "over two decades". "For two decades" would put us in 2034.

Edited May 13, 2023 by rattlesnake

[rattlesnake]

10 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Just an extension it appears of the Massage places here in country and then the ones I have seen in other places throughout Asia.  As the linked article expands on the OP, I did not realize that prostitution was legal in Finland. 

 

Yet this, clipped from the article, caught my eye since many of the Thai ladies involved had gone to Finland where they were married or been in a relationship and then when it went belly up well they turned to sex work.  Sad.

 

"Many of them had originally come to Finland because of marriage or relationships".

 

"The woman turned to sex work when their financial situation deteriorated after these relationships broke up. They lacked education and language skills that would have helped them get other kinds of work."

 

“Such exclusion from society is quite common among Thai sex workers in Finland. The Interior Ministry published a report on their status in Finland 15 years ago. The situation has not improved much since then,” the detective said.

That article portrays these girls as victims.

 

What I have seen within the Thai masseuse community in my hometown in France is quite different. Most of them are ex-bargirls with a plan: they get a guy to bring them over on a marriage visa, then look for a better "deal" once there. The vast majority of them immediately hook up with a replacement dude once they separate from their initial spouse. The replacement dude isn't usually stupid, quickly realises what he's dealing with and ends it. That's how they end up alone, and then solely congregate with like-minded Thai girls, working in massage parlors (and occasionally making sushis in supermarkets), performing sex acts in back rooms for 50 euro bills which they squander on alcohol, Thai food (expensive in Europe) and lottery tickets. They are often foul-mouthed, jealous little b**ches with the maturity of a 12 year-old, have a drinking problem, no prospects whatsoever and no desire to go back to Thailand as that would be a big loss of face considering they tell everyone back home they are living the high life in Farangland.

 

Never been to Finland but I don't see why it would be any different there.

[jacko45k]

18 hours ago, JoePai said:

Nothing new e.g. look at the Thai massage shops in the UK

And Thailand too, except it is not regarded negatively here, and a rich MP 'don', needs to be respected or else!

[steven100]

they ain't forced into this, this is not the same as the Dubai ex-bar girls,  these are Thai massage shop renters but the story is trying to make out the massage girls are victims which they are not. 

[JackGats]

Another batch of "victims" falling prey to the rescue industry.

 

And more horny men left with no other option than traveling to Thailand or the Phillipines.

 

Men in 180 countries signing away their sexual rights, then thinking "too bad, luckily there's always Pattaya and Angeles City". Fools!

[mikebell]

12 hours ago, HuskerDo2 said:

I don't feel bad for them. They weren't being forced. They could have returned to their home country at any time. 

I feel bad for them.  The chances are they flew Finnair.  I tried it last year - the most expensive/horrendous flight I have ever experienced.

[nahkit]

12 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

They are often foul-mouthed, jealous little b**ches with the maturity of a 12 year-old, have a drinking problem, no prospects whatsoever and no desire to go back to Thailand as that would be a big loss of face considering they tell everyone back home they are living the high life in Farangland.

Stick a coin in the jukebox and play another somebody done somebody wrong song.

[ChrisKC]

On 5/13/2023 at 12:17 PM, GregBow said:

My maths is off. How is since 2014 decades?

Not even one decade!