Social Media Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 Former prime minister Liz Truss has made a personal plea for Rishi Sunak to brand China as a "threat" to UK security during a visit to Taiwan. The ex-prime minister challenged Mr Sunak to deliver on pledges he made last summer to clamp down on China. Ms Truss made the speech in Taipei City on Wednesday, making her the first former prime minister to visit Taiwan since Margaret Thatcher. The Chinese Embassy called Ms Truss's visit "a dangerous political stunt". It added that the visit "will do nothing but harm to the UK". In the speech, Ms Truss urged the West not to work with China, warning that totalitarian regimes "don't tell the truth". She drew comparisons between the tensions between China and Taiwan, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine. 1
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 17, 2023 And I thought the free UK wants to do business with the rest of the word. Why exactly do they have in mind? Maybe NZ? Anybody? 3
Brickleberry Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 Liz Truss's 49 days as Prime Minister were a joke. The only thing she managed to achieve was for her own personal benefit; she stole bathrobes and other paraphernalia from Chequers (source below). She has no business in Taipei, and she shouldn't have been there. I suspect she was persuaded to make some noise on behalf of Boris, as we have seen many of his cronies in recent days making headlines about how the current conservative leadership is ruining things: Priti Patel, Nadine Dorris & Jacob Rees Mogg all piled on this week. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/03/the-case-of-the-missing-bathrobes-what-liz-trusss-latest-gaffe-tells-us-about-grubbiness-and-greed 2
Popular Post JonnyF Posted May 17, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 17, 2023 Well done Liz. The leftist apologists for the brutal communist Chinese regime will criticize you but you are absolutely correct. Of course the #bekind lefties will be moaning that such a stance could cost the uk 0.045% of GDP or something but just like they demonstrated with Brexit they only care about money, not principles. 2 1
Chomper Higgot Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Well done Liz. The leftist apologists for the brutal communist Chinese regime will criticize you but you are absolutely correct. Of course the #bekind lefties will be moaning that such a stance could cost the uk 0.045% of GDP or something but just like they demonstrated with Brexit they only care about money, not principles. ‘Leftist apologists for the brutal communist regime’. What on earth triggered that. Truss is addressing her comments to Sunak. Sunak is a Tory. 1 1
JonnyF Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: ‘Leftist apologists for the brutal communist regime’. What on earth triggered that. Whenever Truss criticizes China the usual left wing posters side with China and denigrate Truss. Given China's human rights record it is absurd, but that is the lunacy of the left. I guess left wing extremists put socialist ideology ahead of human rights. Sad. 1 2
candide Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 4 hours ago, JonnyF said: Whenever Truss criticizes China the usual left wing posters side with China and denigrate Truss. Given China's human rights record it is absurd, but that is the lunacy of the left. I guess left wing extremists put socialist ideology ahead of human rights. Sad. Leftists are siding with China? 1
RayC Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 "Ms Truss urged the West not to work with China, warning that totalitarian regimes "don't tell the truth"." She might be right. Just a shame that she didn't practice what she preached when she was in office. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/31/campaigners-seek-overturn-liz-truss-resumption-saudi-arms-sales-yemen https://news.sky.com/video/liz-truss-refuses-to-criticise-saudi-arabias-human-rights-record-12641890 1
JonnyF Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 5 hours ago, candide said: Leftists are siding with China? Are you surprised? China is a communist country. 2
Chomper Higgot Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 10 hours ago, JonnyF said: Whenever Truss criticizes China the usual left wing posters side with China and denigrate Truss. Given China's human rights record it is absurd, but that is the lunacy of the left. I guess left wing extremists put socialist ideology ahead of human rights. Sad. Again more triggered ‘left wing’ with zero evidence. Erm, let’s have some facts: https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-labour-to-push-to-declare-chinas-treatment-of-uyghurs-genocide-xinjiang-beijing-rahima-mahmut/ 1 1
Popular Post RuamRudy Posted May 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 18, 2023 10 hours ago, JonnyF said: Whenever Truss criticizes China the usual left wing posters side with China and denigrate Truss. Given China's human rights record it is absurd, but that is the lunacy of the left. I guess left wing extremists put socialist ideology ahead of human rights. Sad. It is not a case of pick your side - it is recognising that a politician of genuinely staggering incompetence and a total lack of self-awareness is parading herself on the world stage, in one of the most fragile of geopolitical spats, as if she is Kofi Annan, whereas the reality is that she is very, very out of her depth. You don't send a clown to perform open heart surgery. She has no business there. 5 1 2 2
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted May 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 18, 2023 6 hours ago, candide said: Leftists are siding with China? They moved to siding with China after moving over from siding with Russia 1 1 2 1 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted May 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: They moved to siding with China after moving over from siding with Russia Evidence? 3 1
JonnyF Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: It is not a case of pick your side - it is recognising that a politician of genuinely staggering incompetence and a total lack of self-awareness is parading herself on the world stage, in one of the most fragile of geopolitical spats, as if she is Kofi Annan, whereas the reality is that she is very, very out of her depth. You don't send a clown to perform open heart surgery. She has no business there. I suppose it's best everyone just ignores what is happening?
Popular Post RuamRudy Posted May 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I suppose it's best everyone just ignores what is happening? Did I say that? Of course not, but the need for tact and diplomacy is paramount. She does not possess the qualities a strategic leader requires. She would be far better staying home and looking after her constituency like the backbencher she is, and should have always remained. 1 1 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted May 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 18, 2023 47 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I suppose it's best everyone just ignores what is happening? Criticizing Truss = doing nothing? Wow, I guess that makes the Tories who threw her out of office China's accomplices. 2 1 1
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cncltd1973 Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 yes, more politicians should be raising the alarm for the plotting dragon that hides in a Winnie the Poo suit 1 1
tonbridgebrit Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 On 5/17/2023 at 2:09 PM, JonnyF said: Well done Liz. The leftist apologists for the brutal communist Chinese regime will criticize you but you are absolutely correct. Of course the #bekind lefties will be moaning that such a stance could cost the uk 0.045% of GDP or something but just like they demonstrated with Brexit they only care about money, not principles. On 5/17/2023 at 2:21 PM, JonnyF said: Whenever Truss criticizes China the usual left wing posters side with China and denigrate Truss. Given China's human rights record it is absurd, but that is the lunacy of the left. I guess left wing extremists put socialist ideology ahead of human rights. Sad. Britain is no longer in Europe, and this means it's of vital importance that a big and comprehensive trade deal with China must be agreed and signed. A British ex-prime minister turning up in Taiwan is simply antagonising Chinese in Beijing, it's going to diminish Britain's position in front of China. This visit by this blonde woman is disastrous for Britain. You go on about human rights in China ? Let's all be honest. If China wants to butcher Chinese in China, well, let them do it. Who cares ? If America or Britain sends soldiers to China, to prevent Chinese killing Chinese, well, what's the point ? If one American or British soldier dies to prevent ten or twenty people in China being killed, that's still a waste of an American or British soldier. Let them do it. Same as Middle East types fighting each other. Or Africans fighting other Africans. Why on earth waste our money and waste our own soldiers' lives, for what ? 1
JonnyF Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 2 hours ago, tonbridgebrit said: Britain is no longer in Europe and this means it's of vital importance that a big and comprehensive trade deal with China must be agreed and signed. A British ex-prime minister turning up in Taiwan is simply antagonising Chinese in Beijing, it's going to diminish Britain's position in front of China. This visit by this blonde woman is disastrous for Britain. You go on about human rights in China ? Let's all be honest. If China wants to butcher Chinese in China, well, let them do it. Who cares ? If America or Britain sends soldiers to China, to prevent Chinese killing Chinese, well, what's the point ? If one American or British soldier dies to prevent ten or twenty people in China being killed, that's still a waste of an American or British soldier. Let them do it. Same as Middle East types fighting each other. Or Africans fighting other Africans. Why on earth waste our money and waste our own soldiers' lives, for what ? We are still in Europe - check the map Bro. No longer in the EU though. I would hope you understand the difference. What’s your issue with “blonde women”? Expensive divorce? Or simply another misogynist exposed ? We don’t have to stop their behaviour with military force but we don’t need to get into bed with them economically either. That would be hypocritical, we should leave that type of hypocrisy to left wing governments. The Conservatives should remain above that.
RayC Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, JonnyF said: We don’t have to stop their behaviour with military force but we don’t need to get into bed with them economically either. That would be hypocritical, we should leave that type of hypocrisy to left wing governments. The Conservatives should remain above that. You ignore the fact that this Conservative Government sells arms to repressive regimes such as Saudi Arabia? 1
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