Bullman, the Norwegian killer and fugitive from Thai justice lands in Oslo on a false name and passport

[GroveHillWanderer]

1 hour ago, khunjeff said:

If the whole world seems to know about his arrival in Norway using a false name and passport, why wasn't he immediately arrested for that by Norwegian authorities? Even leaving aside the murder charge, flying around under a false identity or with forged documents isn't something that's taken lightly by any government. Or are the articles somehow suggesting that the Norwegian embassy in Hanoi knowingly issued the bogus passport to him?

That's not how I read the info on the two articles, taken together. As I understood it, no-one (in a position of authority, at least) knew he was traveling on a false passport until he turned himself in to the police after having arrived back in Norway.

[brianthainess]

2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Is there any other country in the world that gives bail to murderers?

Yes but normally I would imagine they keep your passport. 

[Moonfire]

Bet he owns stock in Red Bull. 

[The Theory]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

later being granted bail by local police

????????????

[ChipButty]

Maybe it wasn't a false passport, In the UK you can change your name and get a new passport, Maybe Norway has similar rules, 

[Freddy42OZ]

3 hours ago, bignok said:

57yo in one report, 50yo in another.

He was 50 in 2019 when the incident occurred.   Being on the run for 4 years has aged him 7 years!

[bignok]

29 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Maybe it wasn't a false passport, In the UK you can change your name and get a new passport, Maybe Norway has similar rules, 

Any country allows name changes. 

[Goat]

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Is there any other country in the world that gives bail to murderers?

Yes Barry. Many.

Try fact checking on google.

[IamNoone88]

He lost his freedom the moment he took the life of another. He might not have been in prison since 2019 but his mind and every passing thought certainly has. On the run, always looking over his shoulder. No chance to meet to meet his daughter and now seemingly not in the best of health. His pigeons are coming home to roost.

[quake]

4 minutes ago, bignok said:

Any country allows name changes. 

North Korea. 

[bignok]

2 minutes ago, Goat said:

Yes Barry. Many.

Try fact checking on google.

Normally they withhold a passport and impose large bail.

[NextG]

3 hours ago, Watchit said:

From what i remember about this case the Indian was making a lot of noise in his room and had a f you attitude toward the Norwegian which resulted in his death.

You ‘remember’ incorrectly. It was the other way around. 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8003899/Opera-singing-bodybuilder-says-murder-Brit-dad-Thailand.html

 

The Indian man probably asked him to pipe down as he had a two year old and it was between 3am and 4am. Not unreasonable. 

Edited May 29, 2023 by NextG

[bigt3116]

3 hours ago, Artisi said:

Extradition by any chance, or would that be too much effort for the Thai system to organise, considering the BIB couldn't get it organised for the murder of one of their own? 

No extradition treaty between Norway and Thailand

[JimTripper]

 

 

3 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Must have been a good false passport, 

they use a chip in them these days buddy

[Artisi]

19 minutes ago, bignok said:

Any country allows name changes. 

Many countries allow name changes, usually with the provisos that it's not for criminal intent or to dodge out from under any legal impediment. 

[Artisi]

5 minutes ago, bigt3116 said:

No extradition treaty between Norway and Thailand

That doesn't mean Thailand can't ask for him to be returned to face charges. 

[bignok]

14 minutes ago, NextG said:

You ‘remember’ incorrectly. It was the other way around. 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8003899/Opera-singing-bodybuilder-says-murder-Brit-dad-Thailand.html

 

The Indian man probably asked him to pipe down as he had a two year old and it was between 3am and 4am. Not unreasonable. 

50,54,57. Three different ages given. He looks dodgy as. Looks 40yo in that photo.

[crazykopite]

Reminds me of the RedBull guy who killed the policeman never to be seen again after skipping the country . Why do they give Bail to those who have taken the life of another person they should be held on remand sadly brown envelopes seem to be the answer to avoid detention whilst awaiting trial 

[JimTripper]

There’s a guy at my condo bldg who looks like that guy. He sits around the pool every day. I think these dodgy blokes like pools. They always seem to be around the pool for some reason. They are usually stag (alone) around the pool.

[findlay13]

If he gets jail in Norway and I say IF.He'll go to a holiday camp "prison" He should be in the " but money talks.I wonder how much this cost him?Bangkok Hilton"

[findlay13]

3 hours ago, bignok said:

Guy in pool looks on roids. Guy on right looks 65yo. 

I was just going to say he's dropped a lot of weight,no doubt through not using steroids,

[giddyup]

He murders a guy who complained  that he was making too much noise, and now he wants to dictate where he does his time so he can be close to his daughter. I'm sure the guy he killed would have liked to enjoy life with his family as well.

Edited May 29, 2023 by giddyup

[Sandboxer]

A-hol ain't looking too good anymore. Prolly ran out of relatives/friends to sponsor/assist his fugitive life.

 

Here's hoping that stage 4 pancreatic cancer or any of the other really painful ones rids the world of this p.o.s. so the poor family of the victim can get a little closure/justice, although life in Thai prison after an extradition would be even better....

Edited May 29, 2023 by Sandboxer

[bignok]

21 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

There’s a guy at my condo bldg who looks like that guy. He sits around the pool every day. I think these dodgy blokes like pools. They always seem to be around the pool for some reason. They are usually stag (alone) around the pool.

Retired pool cleaners?

[ChaiyaTH]

3 hours ago, Paradise Pete said:

 

Many do.

 

1. United States: Each state has its own laws concerning bail. Generally, bail can be granted in murder cases unless there's a risk the accused won't appear for trial or is a danger to the community.

2. Canada: Bail is determined by a judge and can be granted in murder cases depending on circumstances. However, for serious offenses, it's more difficult for the accused to secure bail.

3. United Kingdom: Murder suspects can be granted bail but it is less common due to the seriousness of the crime.

4. Australia: Like the UK, bail can be granted in murder cases but it is less common.

5. India: Bail in murder cases is generally difficult to secure due to the severity of the crime, but it's not impossible and is ultimately decided by a judge.

6. South Africa: Bail can be granted even in serious crimes such as murder, but the accused has to provide compelling reasons why they should be granted bail.

7. Brazil: For serious crimes like murder, the accused usually remain in detention until trial.

8. Germany: Bail is not commonly used in Germany. Instead, a judge may order pre-trial detention if there's a high risk of flight or if the person is suspected of a serious crime like murder.

9. France: Like Germany, France has a system of pre-trial detention and supervision, and bail is not commonly used.

10. Japan: Japan's system allows for pre-trial detention, and bail can be granted but is less common for serious crimes like murder.

11. China: Bail in China (known as "Qubao Hou Shen") is typically used for less serious crimes. For serious crimes like murder, the accused are often held in detention.

12. Russia: Bail can be used in Russia, but in practice, it is rare, especially for serious crimes like murder.

13. Mexico: Mexico has a complex system of pre-trial detention and provisional release. Serious crimes like murder often result in pre-trial detention.

14. Nigeria: While bail is constitutional in Nigeria, it's less common for serious offenses like murder and is decided on a case-by-case basis.

15. Kenya: The Kenyan constitution guarantees the right to bail. However, for serious crimes like murder, it's generally more difficult to obtain.

16. Saudi Arabia: Saudi Arabia does not typically use a bail system, and those accused of serious crimes like murder are usually detained until trial.

17. Argentina: Argentina uses a system of pre-trial detention and conditional release. Bail can be granted but is less common for serious crimes like murder.

Did you even read your own list or just copy and pasted it? Most of the list say it not happens or rarely happens in case of murder.

[Bepah umayun]

He should be sent back to Phuket at least for a quick reenactment...

[Chongalulu]

4 hours ago, Kenchamp said:

He will have paid certain people to aid his escape.

Can't recall his Go fund Me page... ????

[Neeranam]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Killer is believed to have been lying low in a Southeast Asian country since he was last seen at the Norwegian Embassy in Hanoi

Shouldn't that be ALLEGED killer?

 

 

 

 

Edited May 29, 2023 by Neeranam

[Neeranam]

39 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

There’s a guy at my condo bldg who looks like that guy. He sits around the pool every day. I think these dodgy blokes like pools. They always seem to be around the pool for some reason. They are usually stag (alone) around the pool.

Maybe they like swimming. Most people I know would choose to sit at a pool, rather than inside on their computer.

[Neeranam]

4 hours ago, iaminwa said:

Thailand is a haven for criminals. No criminal checks on Thai Elite Visa, so its getting worse now, and those crims with money are abusing the Thai Elite Visa system,

No criminal checks on the retired visa from agents. Many retired crims abuse the Thai immigration requirements.