It’s a scary time for us’: Florida Pride organizers on edge amid safety fears

[onthedarkside]

 

Kristina Bozanich knew that this year’s Pride month event in the central Florida town of St Cloud would have to be modified to comply with a new law approved by Governor Ron DeSantis last month.

 

One in a series of bills signed by DeSantis this year that escalated his assault on LGBTQ+ rights, the Protection of Children Act prohibits minors from attending “sexually explicit performances” and authorizes the punishment of businesses that knowingly allow children to attend such events by issuing fines and suspending or revoking their alcohol licenses.

 

The inaugural Pride month event that Bozanich organized in St Cloud last year featured an open-air parade and a drag show performance.

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/02/florida-lgbtq-pride-month-ron-desantis

 

[300sd]

Yes I'm sorry if it's a "Scary Time for You"!

 

Stop rubbing our faces in it and perhaps it may not be so scary!!!

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, 300sd said:

Yes I'm sorry if it's a "Scary Time for You"!

 

Stop rubbing our faces in it and perhaps it may not be so scary!!!

I love how homophobic posts so often talk about stuff being forced on their faces  Very revealing.

 

You're not sorry.

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[brewsterbudgen]

Why not?  Drag queens are part of British pantomime tradition, as are people like Danny La Rue, Lily Savage and Dame Edna.  

[Tug]

This is political theater at the expense of a tiny minority of people if you don’t like it simply don’t attend if parents are concerned about their kids don’t let them attend.in my personal opinion it’s a manufactured problem and the government shouldn’t be in the business of enforcing some precived morality that’s a personal call.furthermore I think the vast majority of gay folks are compelled to be the way they are they have enough problems dealing with that without all the threats and moral outrage 

[onthedarkside]

A couple of posts and reply have been removed:

 

15. You will not discriminate or post slurs, degrading or overly negative comments on the basis of race, gender, age, religion, ethnicity, nationality, disability, medical history, marriage, civil partnership, pregnancy, maternity, paternity, gender identity, sexual orientation or any other irrelevant factor.

[Jingthing]

Fascists need scapegoats.

LGBT Americans fit the bill.

They're particularly obsessed with trans.

But they don't stop there.

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[EVENKEEL]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Fascists need scapegoats.

LGBT Americans fit the bill.

LGBT do these events to try to antagonize and create situations. Why would someone trying to assimilate into society go out of their way to draw attention? In hopes of being able to play the victim card.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

LGBT do these events to try to antagonize and create situations. Why would someone trying to assimilate into society go out of their way to draw attention? In hopes of being able to play the victim card.

I reckon  you are one of the last people in the world to go to to explain why there are Pride events.

 

Haters gonna hate.

[Hanaguma]

35 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Why not?  Drag queens are part of British pantomime tradition, as are people like Danny La Rue, Lily Savage and Dame Edna.  

Perhaps, but there is also a very hyper sexualized element in modern drag.  Exaggerated costumes and 'female' anatomy, lots of sexual innuendo, S and M, etc. It is adult entertainment.  This is far different from the cross dressing of Dame Edna or Mrs Doubtfire.  The two are not the same at all, and to conflate them is disingenuous.

[Hanaguma]

Curious what 'rights' are being taken away by this 'assault'.  These days, nobody cares about gay marriage or what adults do in the privacy of their own homes. 

[Bkk Brian]

19 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

LGBT do these events to try to antagonize and create situations. Why would someone trying to assimilate into society go out of their way to draw attention? In hopes of being able to play the victim card.

Its a tradition, started since the Stonewall Uprising 1969. Its grown internationally with millions of people taking part around the world. Parties, workshops, concerts, picnics and of course the parade that the homophobic's seem to focus on.

 

Its to:

"recognize the impact that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender individuals have had on history locally, nationally, and internationally."

https://www.loc.gov/lgbt-pride-month/about/

[proton]

38 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Curious what 'rights' are being taken away by this 'assault'.  These days, nobody cares about gay marriage or what adults do in the privacy of their own homes. 

They want to be still seen as victims of hate and discrimination, so any opposing views, and even protecting kids from sexualised material and images is seen as 'homophobic' hateful and even life threatening, drama Queens indeed.

[Jingthing]

Some background. 

Yes SCAPEGOATING. 

 

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, proton said:

They want to be still seen as victims of hate and discrimination, so any opposing views, and even protecting kids from sexualised material and images is seen as 'homophobic' hateful and even life threatening, drama Queens indeed.

An example of DeSantis fascism.

A Florida school wanted to an advanced placement course on LGBT history for high school seniors.

The Miami school district said no out of fear a homophobic parent would sue which would hurt the district financially.

The fascists are trying to erase LGBT people and history in schools.

This is how fascist Putin started.

[proton]

Just now, Jingthing said:

An example of DeSantis fascism.

A Florida school wanted to an advanced placement course on LGBT history for high school seniors.

The Miami school district said no out of fear a homophobic parent would sue which would hurt the district financially.

The fascists are trying to erase LGBT people and history in schools.

This is how fascist Putin started.

You need to look up the meaning of the word fascist 

[Jingthing]

First they came for the LGBT people. 

....

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, proton said:

You need to look up the meaning of the word fascist 

You do.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-fascist-ruth-ben-ghiat-1784017

 

Ron DeSantis 'Will Destroy Our Democracy,' Says Fascism Expert

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[Jingthing]

Trying to erase entire classes of people is scary and good people should act against this even if they're not in the group being scapegoating.

Learn from history.

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[brewsterbudgen]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Perhaps, but there is also a very hyper sexualized element in modern drag.  Exaggerated costumes and 'female' anatomy, lots of sexual innuendo, S and M, etc. It is adult entertainment.  This is far different from the cross dressing of Dame Edna or Mrs Doubtfire.  The two are not the same at all, and to conflate them is disingenuous.

The comment I replied to was about drag queens.  Hyper-sexualised content can be found everywhere and is not restricted to drag queens.

[Hanaguma]

28 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

An example of DeSantis fascism.

A Florida school wanted to an advanced placement course on LGBT history for high school seniors.

The Miami school district said no out of fear a homophobic parent would sue which would hurt the district financially.

The fascists are trying to erase LGBT people and history in schools.

This is how fascist Putin started.

That isnt fascism, it is common sense.  Schools only have limited time to teach kids what they NEED to know in order to get on in the world.  A course in gay history is about the same importance as teaching about Nigerian basket weaving.  

[Hanaguma]

13 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

The comment I replied to was about drag queens.  Hyper-sexualised content can be found everywhere and is not restricted to drag queens.

Of course it can, and it should be kept from children as much as possible.  If you look at almost any drag type event, the participants do NOT look/dress like Caitlin Jenner. They are invariable over-the-top burlesque style.  

[Hanaguma]

30 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

First they came for the LGBT people. 

....

Hyperbole much? Nobody is "coming for" anyone.  Live and let live is the idea, but keep your kinks private.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

Of course it can, and it should be kept from children as much as possible.  If you look at almost any drag type event, the participants do NOT look/dress like Caitlin Jenner. They are invariable over-the-top burlesque style.  

My kids loved the Notting Hill Carnival in London. Schools have their own floats and performers there too. Full of sexualized heterosexual behaviour in some of the adult parades but its a family day out, its put in perspective. A few LGBTQ floats there to. Mind you, I avoided it at night.

[BritManToo]

46 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

First they came for the LGBT people. 

....

I didn't think they were coming for anyone. 

Just cleaning up public parades. 

[Jingthing]

What would it take to get anti LGBT people to care that a man with a fair shot at the presidency is making LGBT people and history invisible in schools?

For example they can mention Alan Turing as a WW2 hero but they can't mention that his own government persecuted him for being gay.

If a student brought it up the teacher would be obligated to shut him up.

 

If teachers weren't allowed to mention Jews or acknowledge the existence of their Jewish students would that get yout concern?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/05/ron-desantis-anti-trans-bills

Ron DeSantis Just Signed 4 Bills Into Law That Will Make Life Hell for Transgender People

 

Good ethical people pay attention when any group is being scapegoated even if that group is not mainstream or popular.

An authoritarian government that gets away with scapegoating one group for political gain is ultimately a danger to all society.

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[Lacessit]

I have to wonder whether Mr. DeSantis has schizophrenia. Making LGBT people invisible, while supporting the Christian training of kids to believe in angels sounds quite schizophrenic to me.

I guess as he imitates Trump, Mexicans and Muslims will be next. A bit awkward for him, Miami has a lot of Cubans.

[Jingthing]

Tampa is a big city very popular with LGBT people so this is not only happening in backwater towns.

 

 

[Jingthing]

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The US is creeping towards fascism.

If Trump or DeSantis takes power in 24 American democracy is finished 

But I get it.

That's exactly what many Americans want.

[Pedrogaz]

3 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Why not?  Drag queens are part of British pantomime tradition, as are people like Danny La Rue, Lily Savage and Dame Edna.  

Not explicit shows for children they are not....the pants tradition has no innuendo.