‘We Need to Start Killing’: Trump’s Far-Right Supporters Are Threatening Civil War

[Jingthing]

28 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

I was referring to the DAMAGE done. They ended slavery but the cost in human life was astronomical.

So preserving the UNION was chopped liver?

[Felton Jarvis]

1 hour ago, onthedarkside said:

UPDATE: Trump Supporters’ Violent Rhetoric in His Defense Disturbs Experts

 

The federal indictment of former President Donald J. Trump has unleashed a wave of calls by his supporters for violence and an uprising to defend him, disturbing observers and raising concerns of a dangerous atmosphere ahead of his court appearance in Miami on Tuesday.

In social media posts and public remarks, close allies of Mr. Trump — including a member of Congress — have portrayed the indictment as an act of war, called for retribution and highlighted the fact that much of his base carries weapons. The allies have painted Mr. Trump as a victim of a weaponized Justice Department controlled by President Biden, his potential opponent in the 2024 election.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/10/us/politics/trump-supporter-violent-rhetoric.html

 

 

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ANYONE advocating violence on behalf of Trump, should be charged with insurrection.

[vinci]

by now i hope these maga would understand that everything Trump touches die, see what happen to the Jan6 clowns let that be a lesson.

[Felton Jarvis]

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So preserving the UNION was chopped liver?

A statement which makes no sense. Food was not being discussed. Loss of life was the result of the Civil War. Those advocating it in “defense” of Donald Trump, ought to be in prison.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

A statement which makes no sense. Food was not being discussed. Loss of life was the result of the Civil War. Those advocating it in “defense” of Donald Trump, ought to be in prison.

Strange reply.

Anyway there is freedom of speech in the US.

So it's OK for people to discuss anything.

But I am in favor of the authorities closely watching people or groups favoring civil war in order to arrest people as soon as chatter morphs into planning actions.

[vinci]

some bad news the presiding judge over Trump case is a MAGA, she had some ruling history with Trump in the past, how did this happen is beyond me

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, vinci said:

some bad news the presiding judge over Trump case is a MAGA, she had some ruling history with Trump in the past, how did this happen is beyond me

Accidentally. 

But more indictments coming.

[billd766]

16 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Talking about well known names, there's a video of Kari Lake giving this beauty going round twitter:

 

“If you want to get to President Trump, you’re going to have to go through me and you’re going to have to go through 75 million Americans just like me,” said Lake, a staunch Trump ally who lost her 2022 bid for governor.
Most of those Trump voters, she pointedly added, are “card-carrying members” of the National Rifle Association.
“That’s not a threat. That’s a public service announcement,” she said. “We will not let you lay a finger on President Trump. Frankly, now is the time to cling to our guns and our religion.”

https://www.ajc.com/politics/kari-lake-on-indictment-you-will-not-lay-a-finger-on-president-trump/MMN42LXFBFAI3OLFITJY7TPIHE/

 

 

 

 

What a very sad woman.

 

Also IMHO, she is very wrong about 75 million other American people like her.

 

There will always be some, but 75 million?

 

No way.

[FritsSikkink]

19 hours ago, Felton Jarvis said:

The last Civil War did not end well.  Something to remember.

It ended great, the racists got beaten.

[Jingthing]

22 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

It ended great, the racists got beaten.

Well in fairness it wasn't that clean an ending.

The south just compensated their defeat with Jim Crow laws and still glorifying the Rebel cause.

Black people might have been paid after the war, but peanuts, and their civil rights including voting rights were severely repressed.

Yes many moved north but discovered there's plenty of racism up there too!

Also it's still being debated if Sherman's brutal murderous march from Atlanta to the sea after the Union won was justified in any way.

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[vinci]

Tues is the day people

[xylophone]

20 hours ago, Tug said:

Even the die hard trumpers have seen what happened to the J6 fools it’s all puffery with a few idiots sprinkled in it’s good to get them out in the open so we know who they are

Unfortunately Tug, the diehard trumpers are not bright enough to understand that something similar could happen to them should they decide to try some sort of insurrection.

 

Very hard to understand what drives these idiots, but then some cults seem to have this hold on people, and the majority of them are average to poorly educated, so that could explain it.

[Thailand]

1 hour ago, vinci said:

Tues is the day people

I would think that if the DOJ, or whomever is in charge here, will quietly arrange a new date time and venue as it is obvious that many Trump supporters will take up arms and be a danger to themselves and the public order?

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, Felton Jarvis said:

ANYONE advocating violence on behalf of Trump, should be charged with insurrection.

Terrorism. Violence in pursuit of a political outcome is terrorism.

[BarraMarra]

Only in America can people in government come out with statements like be prepared for civil war, its ok to advocate killing. What kind of a country is that?  In the UK anyone even suggesting that would be arrested and put before a court for incitement and if they were a Politician there career would be over.

[onthedarkside]

Trolling meme removed

[Pink Mist]

Do any of Trumps supporters realize he was the one who started the weaponization of DOJ and is responsible for so many reprehensible acts which his vociferous rants created like Jan 6th.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/06/21/trump-deployed-government-power-against-enemies-swalwell/7733108002/

 

Presidents help set the tone for America; Trump set a tone of bullying and phony machismo that lingers even after his ouster, as we see public health officials threatened, bottles thrown at NBA players and decency disappearing from campaigns – and even the House floor.

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, Pink Mist said:

Do any of Trumps supporters realize he was the one who started the weaponization of DOJ. 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/06/21/trump-deployed-government-power-against-enemies-swalwell/7733108002/

 

Presidents help set the tone for America; Trump set a tone of bullying and phony machismo that lingers even after his ouster, as we see public health officials threatened, bottles thrown at NBA players and decency disappearing from campaigns – and even the House floor.

Because Swalwell says so? OMG.

[Felton Jarvis]

23 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Only in America can people in government come out with statements like be prepared for civil war, its ok to advocate killing. What kind of a country is that?  In the UK anyone even suggesting that would be arrested and put before a court for incitement and if they were a Politician there career would be over.

Exactly. Such statements are no more “free speech” than threatening to kill a sitting President. No less than TWO law enforcement officers were suspended in the southern United States for that exact threat once Joe Biden was elected.  “Free speech” is like anything else in law, it has its limits.

[SunnyinBangrak]

10 minutes ago, Pink Mist said:

Do any of Trumps supporters realize he was the one who started the weaponization of DOJ and is responsible for so many reprehensible acts which his vociferous rants created like Jan 6th.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/06/21/trump-deployed-government-power-against-enemies-swalwell/7733108002/

 

Presidents help set the tone for America; Trump set a tone of bullying and phony machismo that lingers even after his ouster, as we see public health officials threatened, bottles thrown at NBA players and decency disappearing from campaigns – and even the House floor.

The corrupt and immoral "crossfire hurricane" investigation that started this whole weaponized DOJ against Trump leading us to today is hardly Trump's own fault surely?

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/fbi-lacked-any-actual-evidence-of-collusion-between-trump-campaign-russia-when-crossfire-hurricane-launched-durham-finds/

[Pink Mist]

14 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Because Swalwell says so? OMG.

There are many stories out there which discuss the actual workings of DOJ under Trump. However, looking at it from the outside one can see that the rhetoric and tone Trump used and is still using set the country up for where it is today. Look at the Republicans in both houses.  What they are advocating, and what the OP discusses in many posts, is a violation of the 14th Amendment.  There is a post somewhere above which lays it all out for you as far as what they are inciting is an insurrection themselves and could be removed from office.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The corrupt and immoral "crossfire hurricane" investigation that started this whole weaponized DOJ against Trump leading us to today is hardly Trump's own fault surely?

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/fbi-lacked-any-actual-evidence-of-collusion-between-trump-campaign-russia-when-crossfire-hurricane-launched-durham-finds/

This is Durham's report. The guy who publicly and bizarrely disputed the Justice Dept's inspector general findings and then was unable to come up with any evidence to support his disagreement. As has been repeated repeatedly, the investigation of Trump was not based on the Steele report. Even Durham acknowledged that. And who cares what Durham alleges given his demonstrated bias and incompetence in this matter?

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[BarraMarra]

Did Trump tell his goons to head to the Whitehouse ? and did the same man pay off a hooker or was that a lie too? and some Americans want him back as President lol.

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The corrupt and immoral "crossfire hurricane" investigation that started this whole weaponized DOJ against Trump leading us to today is hardly Trump's own fault surely?

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/fbi-lacked-any-actual-evidence-of-collusion-between-trump-campaign-russia-when-crossfire-hurricane-launched-durham-finds/

The very same right wing National Review also wrote this yesterday:

 

The Trump Indictment Is Damning

" it is impossible to read the indictment against Trump in the Mar-a-Lago documents case and not be appalled at the way he handled classified documents as an ex-president, and responded to the attempt by federal authorities to reclaim them."

 

"Once Trump was no longer president, he had no right to these materials. He stored them recklessly — not in a secured space that had been approved to handle classified documents, but, farcically, in places including his bedroom, a bathroom, and a ballroom. This was within his Mar-a-Lago Club that has hosted events for tens of thousands of people within the roughly year and a half that the documents were in his possession."

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/06/the-trump-indictment-is-damning/

 

It goes on, its quite damning of Trump and his corrupt behaviour in this case.

 

[Felton Jarvis]

4 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Did Trump tell his goons to head to the Whitehouse ? and did the same man pay off a hooker or was that a lie too? and some Americans want him back as President lol.

If Trump is the nominee, that should give Biden a guaranteed win. I fear the presence of DeSantis in the mix. He is arguably worse than Trump because he is smarter.

[BarraMarra]

Trump should not even be Nominated he should be in a prison cell for inciting a civil war, lying to the American population, and  Treason. Oh and throw in potentially the Security of all Americans by stealing and storing sensitive top Secret documents in his home. 

[ThailandRyan]

Trump, has lost more attorneys who have left his sinking ship.  The way the man continues to whip people into a frenzy and disregard his own legal team will not end well for him nor will it end well for the elected senators and congressman who are advocating the measures they are. 

 

As I stated in an earlier post the 14th Amendment should now be in play for any elected official who allows themselves to spew forth the rhetoric such as the OP is stating, and those who posted tweets and such after the indictment was released.

 

If I ever spoke like these folks are doing, I would have been suspended from service and terminated for violating my oath of office as a LEO.  Many have.

[bignok]

On 6/10/2023 at 2:38 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

As we often see on this forum, many of Trump’s most vociferous supporters aren’t Americans and very likely don’t own any guns.

 

Brand ‘Validate Impotent Grievance’ has a global reach.

 

Most people don't care and have better things to do. The people who hate Trump seem to spend years worrying about him. 

[proton]

One message online! does not take much for the Trump haters to have a paranoid meltdown does it ????

[bignok]

25 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

If Trump is the nominee, that should give Biden a guaranteed win. I fear the presence of DeSantis in the mix. He is arguably worse than Trump because he is smarter.

So with Desantis being smarter and younger than Trump and Biden he should be President. Let's hope so.