Two deaths linked with cannabis use and violent incidents reported in recent days by Thai police

[bignok]

8 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

Absolute ballcocks, someone has a secret agender to demonize Cannabis use and its effects.

Do they?

[kiteman9]

If they wer'nt mething around they would probably just get abong.

[sidneybear]

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

It's well known that weed has a calming effect.

Not always... sometimes the opposite. 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/marijuana/health-effects/mental-health.html

 

[robertson468]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Totally ridiculous. It was the meth not the ganga. Alcohol is far more dangerous. 

 

I know plenty of brilliant people who smoke, and it has not slowed them down. To the contrary, alot of highly intelligent people use herb to slow down their brains, create some perspective, alter their perception and boost their creativity. Speaking from experience, there is little about ganga that is harmful, as long as it does not become a daily habit. I used to smoke occasionally. It was delightful, and did not make me stupid. It did make me funnier, and enhanced my life on several levels. Dancing, sex, skiing, music, movies, and many other activities seemed more enjoyable. 

 

I consider alcohol to be infinitely more toxic to the body and mind. Not to mention society. Yet, it is legal. 

 

Like many things, moderate use can be enjoyable and relaxing for many. And from a medicinal point of view, it is astonishing. My mother smoked. She had severe degenerative osteoarthritis of the spine. She was in alot of chronic pain. It helped her alot. And my guess is it was far better for her health and mind, than pain killers. 

 

So you were there when he indulged in both meths and canabis and examined him using your extensive medical knowedge?  Pity you didn't mention the wonderful effects of psychosis, inflicted on people due to canabis use.

[Reginald Prewster]

Well well well...

...and they didn't find a used syringe with ganja traces near the victims? 

 

Ok, I have other tasks to do than criticise the experts... puff puff pass.... who is next? 

[findlay13]

Ban the killer weed.Make it illegal again????

[jingjai9]

The last paragraph of the abbreviated story:

 

The scale of Thailand’s drug epidemic and perhaps an insight into the public’s concerns over the free availability of marijuana in the kingdom can be seen from two violent incidents in the past two days involving a 14-year-old in Nong Bua Lamphu and a 36-year-old perpetrator in Krabi.

Reporting the news or editorializing?   Can you tell??????

[pacovl46]

So, how about the hundreds of millions of pot smokers who do NOT commit violent crimes?! 

 

It's a typical sensationalist witch hunt by the media.

[Rinato]

In more than 30 years smoking pot I never felt aggressive and violent, quiet the opposite.

Same apply for all ganja smokers that I know and knew.

[bamnutsak]

3 minutes ago, pacovl46 said:

So, how about the hundreds of millions of pot smokers who do NOT commit violent crimes?! 

Yeah, I think maybe I was misunderstood when I said I could 'murder' that cheeseburger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ThaiFelix]

6 hours ago, gargamon said:

So the guy was taking meth and also smoked some marijuana, and they blame the marijuana for his murder spree? Wow. Somebody's got an agenda here. 

Lucky he was not drinking a cup of coffee or that would end up on the Controlled Substances List as well as the  Substances Known to Kill with Impunity List!

 

I would like to see 2 lists published here daily listing, with as many adjectives as possible, 1. every crime involving alcohol and 2,  every crime involving meth, as it seems necessary now to mention every crime  involving weed!

[ThaiFelix]

8 minutes ago, pacovl46 said:

So, how about the hundreds of millions of pot smokers who do NOT commit violent crimes?! 

 

It's a typical sensationalist witch hunt by the media.

The media is only joining the band wagon steered by some other party/ies.

[IndomitableSpirit]

Marijuana: Say whaaaaaaaat??????????????

[Bday Prang]

Regarding the OP, isn't it a bit similar to the way that the whole reefer madness thing started all those years ago , When harry anslinger cited cannabis as a contributory factor when a black guy allegedly raped a young white girl?  They say history repeats its self!     80+ years later and nothing has changed

[watchcat]

6 hours ago, stoner said:

you mean someone has to take responsibility ? 

Do you mean the 14 year old baby?

[Bday Prang]

4 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

The media is only joining the band wagon steered by some other party/ies.

The media is doing as its told, by its paymasters,  But Since when have police reported things like this to them. Highly unusual behaviour

[Bday Prang]

2 minutes ago, watchcat said:

Do you mean the 14 year old baby?

No such thing as a 14 year old baby,   they are generally referred to as teenagers or adolescents, If I remember correctly greta thunberg was treated as a fully grown adult by the media and several heads of state when she was a similar age

[watchcat]

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

No such thing as a 14 year old baby,   they are generally referred to as teenagers or adolescents, If I remember correctly greta thunberg was treated as a fully grown adult by the media and several heads of state when she was a similar age

Mentally?

 

[Noah K]

How many people died on this so called "linked to marijuana use" before it was decriminalized? How many people died on the roads in Thailand? The answer is 14,737 in 2022 and 6,732 so far this year. Nobody is screaming to make vehicles a criminal offense to drive. Lets face it, laws and rules are put in place to make it safer on the roads, and to reduce the number of deaths. Age requirements, a valid driver's license, speed limits, traffic signals, seatbelts, helmet laws, drinking and driving laws are all enacted to make something dangerous safer for everyone. I will admit that I don't know the exact numbers, but my guess is that most of the accidents were caused by an individual not following the rules or laws. Proper enactment of  laws and enforcement of these laws does seem to reduce the number of deaths on the roads each year. The same thought process should apply to cannabis, alcohol, cigarettes, vaping, etc. No sense in throwing people in jail for use, but clearly there can be justification for abuse, especially when it can cause harm to others. I think most people are in favor of tightening up on any of the laws for abuse of anything with potential harm to others. The second reason, is placing cannabis back on the banned narcotics list only shifts the earned income from law abiding citizens and government tax income, to the criminals pockets. The government's war on drugs is a complete failure, here in Thailand and everywhere else in the world.

[khunpin]

That's what I'm trying to say since decades:

Drugs like Marihuana are dangerous and responsible for many deaths. 

[malibukid]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Totally ridiculous. It was the meth not the ganga. Alcohol is far more dangerous. 

 

I know plenty of brilliant people who smoke, and it has not slowed them down. To the contrary, alot of highly intelligent people use herb to slow down their brains, create some perspective, alter their perception and boost their creativity. Speaking from experience, there is little about ganga that is harmful, as long as it does not become a daily habit. I used to smoke occasionally. It was delightful, and did not make me stupid. It did make me funnier, and enhanced my life on several levels. Dancing, sex, skiing, music, movies, and many other activities seemed more enjoyable. 

 

I consider alcohol to be infinitely more toxic to the body and mind. Not to mention society. Yet, it is legal. 

 

Like many things, moderate use can be enjoyable and relaxing for many. And from a medicinal point of view, it is astonishing. My mother smoked. She had severe degenerative osteoarthritis of the spine. She was in alot of chronic pain. It helped her alot. And my guess is it was far better for her health and mind, than pain killers. 

 

i smoked everyday and it improved my skiing and surfing abilities.

[Bday Prang]

8 minutes ago, watchcat said:

Mentally?

 

Even mentally, He would have to have been a complete retarded halfwit,  and if that was the case which i seriously doubt, why was he given access to a machete.  Babies don't kill people by chopping them up neither do the mentally retarded.  Meth addicted psychopaths on the other hand...

[kingstonkid]

7 hours ago, gargamon said:

So the guy was taking meth and also smoked some marijuana, and they blame the marijuana for his murder spree? Wow. Somebody's got an agenda here. 

I think you missed the plot.  It is the 14-year-old boy that smoked pot that is the main concern.    The worry that I have is what else are people putting in marijuana.  We know from past history in the West that putting a little extra of something in the pot was a good way to get people hooked on other drugs.  

 

I agree that buying form one of these large box stores is probably reasonably safe but there are a lot of dealers that are just selling nd you really have no idea what you are buying.

[Bday Prang]

Has anybody bothered clicking on the link to the "enquirer" in the OP ?  not sure who pays them but they have certainly gone all out on the anti cannabis theme,

One of there "stories" even cites cannabis as a cause of priapism which can and has allegedly made one or more people castrate themselves     I was going to say you could not make it up, but they actually have .

[bamnutsak]

2 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

The worry that I have is what else are people putting in marijuana.  We know from past history in the West that putting a little extra of something in the pot was a good way to get people hooked on other drugs.  

Don't be worried, that's an urban myth.

 

Assuming these two people (14 YO, 36 YO) actually smoked cannabis it was not treated with anything. It was just ditch weed.

 

 

[Bday Prang]

4 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

I think you missed the plot.  It is the 14-year-old boy that smoked pot that is the main concern.    The worry that I have is what else are people putting in marijuana.  We know from past history in the West that putting a little extra of something in the pot was a good way to get people hooked on other drugs.  

 

I agree that buying form one of these large box stores is probably reasonably safe but there are a lot of dealers that are just selling nd you really have no idea what you are buying.

Theres a basic flaw in that argument,  if they didn't tell people what they were secretly mixing with the pot, how would the victims know what they were addicted to?  come on now don't believe everything you hear or read in the papers or on the net 

[bamnutsak]

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

not sure who pays them but they have certainly gone all out on the anti cannabis theme,

We pay them, and they're grifters. They know what generates clicks and cannabis articles, for some reason, generate clicks. I think because the issue is somewhat divisive, and can be made to seem scary, and that alone gins up a lot of eyeballs.

 

 

[kentrot]

PLEASE try to get your facts straight before publishing falsehoods. 

According to the National Library of Medicine:

Introduction: Cannabis has been historically classified as a hallucinogen. However, subjective cannabis effects do not typically include hallucinogen-like effects. Empirical reports of hallucinogen-like effects produced by cannabis in controlled settings, particularly among healthy research volunteers, are rare and have mostly occurred after administration of purified Δ-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) rather than whole plant cannabis.

[stoner]

27 minutes ago, watchcat said:

Do you mean the 14 year old baby?

meaning responsibility taking here is not exactly a national sport. 

 

parents ? society ? 

[MurakamiX]

Smoking weed while on meth won't even touch the sides. Being up for 5 days on meth will indeed induce hallucinations. You'd have to digest a lot of cannabis to properly hallucinate from it.