We need a serious conversation about Joe Biden’s brain !

[Fat is a type of crazy]

Seems like the ongoing obvious signs of aging are not going to result in Democrats as a whole acknowledging a younger candidate is appropriate so we all watch on and wonder if either he can pull it together for an election, or if there is a bigger stumble and he'll either accept or be forced to accept, that he has to pass the baton to someone else.

[Neeranam]

26 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Seems like the ongoing obvious signs of aging are not going to result in Democrats as a whole acknowledging a younger candidate is appropriate so we all watch on and wonder if either he can pull it together for an election, or if there is a bigger stumble and he'll either accept or be forced to accept, that he has to pass the baton to someone else.

People his age deteriorate very quickly. 

Imagine what he would be like in 4 years. 

I've said it for a long time, he is not for for the job, and frankly anyone who thinks he is is nuts. 

[Jingthing]

I look at this way.

Uncle Joe thinks he's up to it.

Dr. Jill Biden his very impressive wife doesn't seem the type to support him in this if she didn't agree.

Will he drop out?

It's possible but I wouldn't bet on it.

Trump might drop out also.

It is true that there is still plenty of time for it not to be a repeat Biden Trump contest.

But that is still the most likely. 

[Isaan sailor]

Seems with all the talk about Bidens gaffs and/or dementia, most people forget Joe Biden’s a plagiarizer too.  It pretty much derailed his presidential candidacy in 1988.   

[BangkokReady]

13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Uncle Joe thinks he's up to it.

You cannot possibly know if Biden genuinely believes that he is up to it, and even if he does, he could be wrong (he is suffering form dementia, after all).

 

13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Dr. Jill Biden his very impressive wife doesn't seem the type to support him in this if she didn't agree.

You couldn't possibly know this.

[Neeranam]

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I look at this way.

Uncle Joe thinks he's up to it.

Dr. Jill Biden his very impressive wife doesn't seem the type to support him in this if she didn't agree.

Will he drop out?

It's possible but I wouldn't bet on it.

Trump might drop out also.

It is true that there is still plenty of time for it not to be a repeat Biden Trump contest.

But that is still the most likely. 

I love his wife's face here, and this was years ago when running against DONALD! 

 

[BangkokReady]

24 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

People his age deteriorate very quickly. 

Imagine what he would be like in 4 years. 

I've said it for a long time, he is not for for the job, and frankly anyone who thinks he is is nuts. 

It's hardly something you can even really discuss.  Diehard Biden fans and never-Trumpers alike appear to be saying "He doesn't have dementia it's just a speech impediment/gaff, and even if he does, he's still better than Trump."  I.e. they clearly don't even believe half of what they are saying.

[Neeranam]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

It's hardly something you can even really discuss.  Diehard Biden fans and never-Trumpers alike appear to be saying "He doesn't have dementia it's just a speech impediment/gaff, and even if he does, he's still better than Trump."  I.e. they clearly don't even believe half of what they are saying.

I think they are suffering from some kind of psychiatric disorder, maybe PTSD after Trump beat their beloved Hillary. Maybe some other sort of irrational fear of Trump. 

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28 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

People his age deteriorate very quickly. 

Imagine what he would be like in 4 years. 

I've said it for a long time, he is not for for the job, and frankly anyone who thinks he is is nuts. 

They do? Really, can you back up that generality with some actual evidence. Or are you just another amateur gerontologist?

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

It's hardly something you can even really discuss.  Diehard Biden fans and never-Trumpers alike appear to be saying "He doesn't have dementia it's just a speech impediment/gaff, and even if he does, he's still better than Trump."  I.e. they clearly don't even believe half of what they are saying.

Another mind-reader.

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Another mind-reader.

I suppose you could consider reading people's comments as sort of reading their minds... ????

 

Bit of a stretch though.

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I think they are suffering from some kind of psychiatric disorder, maybe PTSD after Trump beat their beloved Hillary. Maybe some other sort of irrational fear of Trump. 

First you post as a remote amateur gerontologist and now as a remote amateur psychologist. 

[placeholder]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

I suppose you could consider reading people's comments as sort of reading their minds... ????

 

Bit of a stretch though.

It's a kind of mind reading if what you claim is in the text. If not, it tells us a lot about what you believe but nothing about those who wrote it.

[BangkokReady]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

They do? Really, can you back up that generality with some actual evidence. Or are you just another amateur gerontologist?

Quote

The prevalence of cognitive impairment increases with age, being higher at 80–85 years than 65–69 years

https://bmcgeriatr.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12877-020-01863-7

 

If you search "rates of cognitive decline by age", you'll find lots more.

[xylophone]

9 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

You cannot possibly know if Biden genuinely believes that he is up to it, and even if he does, he could be wrong (he is suffering form dementia, after all).

Another specialist joins the thread, this time one who looks a lot like Clint Eastwood, so of course he would know!

 

Even a Joe Biden with his forgetfulness and gaffes is a damn sight better than someone whose name begins with a T.

 

Also it might help you if you knew a little bit more about dementia, and this is from a medical website: –

Is Biden Suffering from Dementia?

While we cannot diagnose President Biden without a thorough evaluation, there have been some concerns raised about his cognitive health.
Again, it’s important to stress that his symptoms can also be caused by other conditions or simply be a normal part of aging. Only a qualified neurology specialist can make an accurate diagnosis.
Nao Medical.com 
 

[candide]

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I think they are suffering from some kind of psychiatric disorder, maybe PTSD after Trump beat their beloved Hillary. Maybe some other sort of irrational fear of Trump. 

Says someone who seem to be obsessed enought to use Biden's picture with his alias.

Projecting much?

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, xylophone said:

14 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

You cannot possibly know if Biden genuinely believes that he is up to it, and even if he does, he could be wrong (he is suffering form dementia, after all).

Another specialist joins the thread, this time one who looks a lot like Clint Eastwood, so of course he would know!

Hardly "specialist knowledge".  Just basic logic.  How would that poster possibly know what is going on in Biden's mind?

[placeholder]

7 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

https://bmcgeriatr.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12877-020-01863-7

 

If you search "rates of cognitive decline by age", you'll find lots more.

I found this in what you linked to:

"Women, senior and elders without education have a higher risk of cognitive impairment."

 

And cognitive decline is not the same thing as dementia.

 

"The brain's capacity for memory, reasoning and comprehension skills (cognitive function) can start to deteriorate from age 45, finds research published on bmj.com today. Previous research suggests that cognitive decline does not begin before the age of 60, but this view is not universally accepted."

https://www.bmj.com/press-releases/2012/01/05/cognitive-decline-can-begin-early-age-45-warn-experts#:~:text=The brain's capacity for memory,view is not universally accepted.

Edited July 5, 2023 by placeholder

[placeholder]

5 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Another specialist joins the thread, this time one who looks a lot like Clint Eastwood, so of course he would know!

 

Even a Joe Biden with his forgetfulness and gaffes is a damn sight better than someone whose name begins with a T.

 

Also it might help you if you knew a little bit more about dementia, and this is from a medical website: –

Is Biden Suffering from Dementia?

While we cannot diagnose President Biden without a thorough evaluation, there have been some concerns raised about his cognitive health.
Again, it’s important to stress that his symptoms can also be caused by other conditions or simply be a normal part of aging. Only a qualified neurology specialist can make an accurate diagnosis.
Nao Medical.com 
 

I guess with the decline of stamp-collecting as a hobby, people are now turning to gerontology and psychology as pastimes.

[Hanaguma]

Here are more Words of Wisdom from the current Occupant of the WHite House, speaking to a teacher's union;

 

"Inprolly but... children are the kite strings... I’m sorry, they’re not somebody elsha shin, they alla chidrin... They’re kyestrings that lift our nation ambitions aloft. You wholetho strings!”

 

 

Anyone translate that into English?

[BangkokReady]

 

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And cognitive decline is not the same thing as dementia.

Dementia wasn't mentioned in the post you asked for evidence to support.

 

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I found this in what you cited:

"Women, senior and elders without education have a higher risk of cognitive impairment."

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

"The brain's capacity for memory, reasoning and comprehension skills (cognitive function) can start to deteriorate from age 45, finds research published on bmj.com today. Previous research suggests that cognitive decline does not begin before the age of 60, but this view is not universally accepted."

https://www.bmj.com/press-releases/2012/01/05/cognitive-decline-can-begin-early-age-45-warn-experts#:~:text=The brain's capacity for memory,view is not universally accepted.

Apart from being wrong, you haven't really explained what point you are attempting to make.

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

8 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Another specialist joins the thread, this time one who looks a lot like Clint Eastwood, so of course he would know!

 

Even a Joe Biden with his forgetfulness and gaffes is a damn sight better than someone whose name begins with a T.

 

Also it might help you if you knew a little bit more about dementia, and this is from a medical website: –

Is Biden Suffering from Dementia?

While we cannot diagnose President Biden without a thorough evaluation, there have been some concerns raised about his cognitive health.
Again, it’s important to stress that his symptoms can also be caused by other conditions or simply be a normal part of aging. Only a qualified neurology specialist can make an accurate diagnosis.
Nao Medical.com 
 

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I guess with the decline of stamp-collecting as a hobby, people are now turning to gerontology and psychology as pastimes.

It's quite interesting the effort people will got to to avoid addressing issues that people bring up.

 

"That's a right-wing talking point, that's a conspiracy theory, you're not an expert a related field."

 

Anything to avoid confronting things they don't like or cannot disagree with.

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Dementia wasn't mentioned in the post you asked for evidence to support.

 

Apart from being wrong, you haven't really explained what point you are attempting to make.

The post claimed that Biden wasn't fit to be President. Cognitive decline is normal and does not mean that a person is unable to function well. 

 

As for being wrong, I guess you don't recognize when you are hoist by your own petard. You linked to evidence that would seem to suggest that Biden would experience less cognitive decline the average. Also, the evidence in that article is about  average rates. It's not a diagnosis of Joe Biden. 

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

The post claimed that Biden wasn't fit to be President. Cognitive decline is normal and does not mean that a person is unable to function well. 

The post said that Biden is in an age group who would experience a higher rate of cognitive decline.  You asked for evidence.  I provided the evidence.  You then said something incorrect about it.

 

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

As for being wrong, I guess you don't recognize when you are hoist by your own petard. You linked to evidence that would seem to suggest that Biden would experience less cognitive decline the average. Also, the evidence in that article is about  average rates. It's not a diagnosis of Joe Biden. 

The evidence supports the claim that Biden is in an age group that experiences a higher rate of cognitive decline.  Uneducated people being more likely to experience decline, doesn't change that fact.

 

You have either failed to understand the article or what is being discussed.  Whichever it is, you are wrong.

[billd766]

33 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

You cannot possibly know if Biden genuinely believes that he is up to it, and even if he does, he could be wrong (he is suffering form dementia, after all).

 

You couldn't possibly know this.

Neither could you.

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Neither could you.

Exactly!  Thank you. 

[Jingthing]

20 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Here are more Words of Wisdom from the current Occupant of the WHite House, speaking to a teacher's union;

 

"Inprolly but... children are the kite strings... I’m sorry, they’re not somebody elsha shin, they alla chidrin... They’re kyestrings that lift our nation ambitions aloft. You wholetho strings!”

 

 

Anyone translate that into English?

Provide link or above should be deleted.

[xylophone]

54 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Maybe some other sort of irrational fear of Trump

I think that's putting it a bit mildly, and if the other folks who support Biden are of a like mind to me, then the only fear we've got is letting a dumb, egotistical, lying, cheating scum bag (trump) become president again – – and that's a rational fear!

Edited July 5, 2023 by xylophone

[3NUMBAS]

its in a bad way ,many cells missing

[BangkokReady]

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Trump taking power again equals the end of American democracy. It's as important for decent pro democracy Americans to fight to stop that as it is for Ukrainians to fight to evict the Ruzzian invaders. 

 A worrying point of view.  I would imagine that if you think that Trump poses that much of a threat, you aren't particularly concerned about truth, morals or ethics. 

 

Which begs the question, what if you're wrong and actually a threat to democracy yourself as a result?