Two Germans Arrested In Murder Of Businessman

[webfact]

Police nab German man in Bangkok nightclub for German businessman’s murder
by Petch Petpailin

 

Photo via Facebook/ Drama-addict

 

Nong Prue Police Station officers arrested a German man at a nightclub in the On Nut neighbourhood of Bangkok last night for his involvement in the murder of a German businessman.

 

The 62 year old German real estate tycoon, Hans Peter Mack, disappeared from his house in Chon Buri province on July 4, triggering an investigation.

 

After extensive efforts, Thai police officers made a gruesome discovery. Mack’s body had been dismembered and stored in a large freezer at a rental house in Pattaya.

 

A 52 year old German woman named Nicole Frevel, who rented the house, claimed that she was unaware of the murder. She said she was forced to keep the freezer in the house and was unaware of what was inside it. Prior to being questioned by the police, Frevel sustained injuries and was admitted to the hospital.

After questioning people living in the area, officers discovered that three people were living on the premises including the dead German, another German man named Olaf Thorsten Brinkmann, and a disabled woman. The neighbour also revealed that a German woman, later identified as Petra Christl Grundgreif, was also close to the three.

 

Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/national/police-nab-german-man-in-bangkok-nightclub-for-german-businessmans-murder

 

-- © Copyright Thaiger 2023-07-12

 

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[Pink Mist]

Looks like he was arrested at an OMG location, so one wonders if the OMG biker group was involved with the hit. Just an opinion.

[sungod]

2 hours ago, renaissanc said:

The murderers clearly don't watch Thai TV News programmes because if they did, they would know that there are CCTV cameras all over the place. They make it easy for the Police to find criminals. ... Just to think that they did this for money, which doesn't make you happy. Now they will spend 20 years in a Hell-hole Thai jail. When they are released they will be broke and unemployed, and maybe homeless and friendless too. With honesty they might have been able to earn the money they got within a few months or a year anyway.

Strange how the cameras work for some, and then malfunction for others......

[BE88]

4 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I used to live in this estate they kept him in - in reality its only about 100m from me now. Very cheap estate, 9,000 baht month for 2 bed house, mostly Thais since we moved out. Seems very strange for them to use this house whilst doing multi million $ deals.

Yes, you are right, something strange with this VIP investor.

 

[LennyW]

2 hours ago, Pharoticus said:

I've said this before: if you stay within the law in Thailand and avoid bargirls and others foreigners, you should be safe. 

 

When meeting foreigners, be VERY cautious. Many or most of them are liars, crooks, scammers, perverts, mentally disturbed, psychopaths / sociopaths, drug addicts, etc. 

 

Never believe what foreigners tell you. Play it cool. If the foreigner is telling you the truth about his current or former career, it'll become evident soon enough. Don't rush into new friendships or stupid business deals. 

 

In almost all cases, avoid business deals with Thais. Keep yourself to yourself and you won't go wrong. 

 

Be happy! Enjoy Thailand.  

Don your tinfoil hat as well and you're good to go!

[BE88]

2 hours ago, Pharoticus said:

2 hours ago, Pharoticus said:

I've said this before: if you stay within the law in Thailand and avoid bargirls and others foreigners, you should be safe. 

 

When meeting foreigners, be VERY cautious. Many or most of them are liars, crooks, scammers, perverts, mentally disturbed, psychopaths / sociopaths, drug addicts, etc. 

 

Never believe what foreigners tell you. Play it cool. If the foreigner is telling you the truth about his current or former career, it'll become evident soon enough. Don't rush into new friendships or stupid business deals. 

 

In almost all cases, avoid business deals with Thais. Keep yourself to yourself and you won't go wrong. 

 

Be happy! Enjoy Thailand.  

 

Great tips not to get into a freezer in Thailand ????

[shunter]

I've just knocked back my missuses plan to buy a freezer. We have a very nice big fridge freezer. Told her we're trying to cut the electricity bill, not anything else... 

[scubascuba3]

5 hours ago, Furioso said:

I wonder where they killed him? Obviously they set up an ambush, he walked in, somebody in another room or behind a door snuck up on him. Bashed him on the head with a heavy weapon. Man that's dirty.

 

Then cut him up with a chainsaw? These people are the lowest of the low. 

sounds like he was hit by a blunt object in the car hence the cleaning, I've wondered whether he was chainsawed before or after freezing, looking at the photo of the body, it looks like after freezing

[scubascuba3]

4 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Isn't that obvious ? The body will need to be disposed of, bit by bit, arrangements to be taken elsewhere etc. But in the meantime it will start to smell.

There has been other commentary that the freezer wasn't plugged in, its just a box that's big enough to store and transport a body, without raising suspicion

body was frozen and chainsawed in to parts, still frozen when found based on the photo i saw

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, Pharoticus said:

When meeting foreigners, be VERY cautious. Many or most of them are liars, crooks, scammers, perverts, mentally disturbed, psychopaths / sociopaths, drug addicts, etc

does this include you?

[Ralf001]

4 hours ago, redwood1 said:

Yea....They could tell the police, he sliped on a banana peel and accidentally cut his body into pieces and then fell into a freezer.......Its all just one big accident..

He got chopped while still breathing ?

[Ralf001]

8 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

body was frozen and chainsawed in to parts, still frozen when found based on the photo i saw

Do you have a link to news article saying chainsaw was used.

 

Link in OP makes no mention of it.

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

officers arrested a German man at a nightclub in the On Nut

Olaf wasn't that bothered, just went to a nightclub

[scubascuba3]

3 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Do you have a link to news article saying chainsaw was used.

 

Link in OP makes no mention of it.

no link, someone posted yesterday, i think they found the chainsaw at the same property

[CanadaSam]

32 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

looking at the photo of the body,

Kindly post a link where one could have a look at this photo.  Thank You.

[Hokeus]

“After questioning people living in the area, officers discovered that three people were living on the premises including the dead German”

 

A murdered dead body hidden in a freezer at a crime scene is counted as a resident and considered to be living on the premises? ????????????‍????

[Ralf001]

14 minutes ago, Hokeus said:

“After questioning people living in the area, officers discovered that three people were living on the premises including the dead German”

 

A murdered dead body hidden in a freezer at a crime scene is counted as a resident and considered to be living on the premises? ????????????‍????

He'll be in the poo with immi if the TM30 was not submitted !!

[KannikaP]

5 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Isn't that obvious ? The body will need to be disposed of, bit by bit, arrangements to be taken elsewhere etc. But in the meantime it will start to smell.

There has been other commentary that the freezer wasn't plugged in, its just a box that's big enough to store and transport a body, without raising suspicion

The body had been cut up into 13 parts separately placed in black plastic bags and put into this freezer which was plugged in at a bedroom

[ThailandRyan]

Watching the Channel 34 HD news now. They are classifying this as a Mafia style murder with Olaf from the Outlaws MC group leading the hit.  Peter must have crossed someone somehow......

[Hokeus]

The freezer M.O. is becoming a repeating theme. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/24/man-with-uk-passport-charged-in-thailand-after-body-found-in-freezer

 

https://news.sky.com/story/dismembered-body-hidden-in-bangkok-freezer-for-three-years-10595100

[scubascuba3]

27 minutes ago, CanadaSam said:

Kindly post a link where one could have a look at this photo.  Thank You.

no link available 

[CHdiver]

Thanks to the healthy diet in a Thai Prison, good old Petra will finally fit into her youth clothes again. At least a silver lining for her in this situation. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

13 minutes ago, Hokeus said:

The freezer M.O. is becoming a repeating theme. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/24/man-with-uk-passport-charged-in-thailand-after-body-found-in-freezer

 

https://news.sky.com/story/dismembered-body-hidden-in-bangkok-freezer-for-three-years-10595100

I knew the guys that committed that crime.

 

They used to drink in Suk Soi 22 in Bangkok. All were Americans, not Brits. The British passport was a fake. 

[Toby1947]

Pork temporarily off the menu at the local Indian restaurant then ????????????. 

Edited July 12, 2023 by Toby1947

[Letseng]

7 hours ago, bignok said:

Never trust people named Olaf

Are you thinking of the German chancellor?????

[Prince77]

This story is far from over and I am expecting more news about the motive, mastermind and beneficiaries of this case.

[tandor]

1 hour ago, shunter said:

I've just knocked back my missuses plan to buy a freezer. We have a very nice big fridge freezer. Told her we're trying to cut the electricity bill, not anything else... 

feeling nervous eh!

[lesmac]

6 hours ago, redwood1 said:

The freezing is the strange part of this story......Why the heck would anyone want to freeze a body?

To stop it smelling

 

[JimTripper]

Question: What do you do?

Answer: I don’t “do” anything. I’m retired!

[webfact]

UPDATE: Two German Suspects in Murder of Hans Peter Mack Arrested, One Pakistani Suspect Still at Large
By Tanakorn Panyadee

 

Thai law enforcement officers have arrested two suspects in the gruesome murder of German real estate broker Hans Peter Mack so far, while still chasing the third Pakistani suspect.

On Tuesday, July 11th, the Thai police arrestedice had arrested Mr. Olaf Thorsten Brinkmann, a 52-year-old German national, who is one of the prime suspects involved in the abduction, murder, and dismemberment of Hans Peter Mack who went missing after attending a business meeting about a real estate property in Pattaya on July 4th.

 

Mack’s dismembered body was found earlier this week inside a large freezer hidden in a bedroom of a rental townhouse within the Nongprue sub-district of Banglamung district, Chonburi.

 

 

At least three suspects, including Brinkmann and Mrs. Petra Christl Grundgreif who previously surrendered to Thai police on July 11th, were suspected of being involved in the case. The police are still chasing the third remaining suspect, Mr. Sahruk Kareem Uddin, 27, a Pakistani national with Thai citizenship.

 

The three are charged for conspiring to commit murder and concealing a corpse. A fourth individual, a disabled 52-year-old German woman who police say is not a suspect but was an individual who resided at the rental home during the time the body of Mr. Mack was stored in a freezer was found yesterday, July 11th, as well. Police had wanted her for interviews but have continually stressed she is not a suspect in the actual murder and concealment of the body.

 

Full story: https://thepattayanews.com/2023/07/12/update-two-german-suspects-in-murder-of-hans-peter-mack-arrested-one-pakistani-suspect-still-at-large/

 

-- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2023-07-12

 

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