Crackdown ordered on organised crime in Pattaya, stricter visa screening after Ralter Mack murder

[Jumbo1968]

They appear to have added more rooms to the Immigration Office and construction was going on for more space. 
Thailand makes a lot of money from its Immigration laws so it can’t start enforcing to many rules and regulations.

I have no idea who makes what when you have the ฿800000 in your account, it’s deposited and removed within minutes but immigration must be taking a big cut allegedly ?

[KannikaP]

2 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

. I could see it being implemented for new applicants or renewals.

What other scenaria are there please?

[StayinThailand2much]

12 hours ago, brucegoniners said:

So basically all people applying for retirement visas are going to have to go through additional BS just because of this scum? Yeah, makes sense to me.

Probably all will have to attend a full-body exam to determine whether they have tattoos, and how many, and all applicants will have to prove that they don't own a Harley Davidson... Just a Big Joke, for now, but who knows.

Edited July 17, 2023 by StayinThailand2much

[StayinThailand2much]

9 hours ago, Caldera said:

They could start with introducing a criminal records check. Some of those retirees probably have criminal records as thick as a phone book back home, and filtering them out would be easy. I've never understood why this isn't a requirement for ALL longterm visas and extensions. 

Some people might not be able to get this in Thailand, so they would have to travel back home just for such a requirement.

Edited July 17, 2023 by StayinThailand2much

[david555]

1 hour ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Some people might not be able to get this in Thailand, so they would have to travel back home just for such a requirement.

On my request online to my E.U.country Justice department delivered it in to 3 weeks by mail on my Thai address .

While officially living in Thailand and registered with my address at my BKK embassy

 

So not impossible to get the needed if you are entitled to get one .....

Edited July 17, 2023 by david555

[PETERTHEEATER]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

.....in the wake of chilling details emerging related to the murder of 62-year-old Hans Peter Ralter Mack.......

Somewhat insensitive wording considering the victim was found in a freezer.

[Kerryd]

Apparently it only applies to foreigners who ride Harleys.

So if you ride a "big" Kawasaki, Honda, Triumph, BMW, Suzuki or other "big bike" you should be OK to continue doing whatever as only Harley riders do bad things it seems.

It's hilarious. An element of the Big Bike community is doing a nazi-style "register or your extension will be denied " propaganda blitz, tell all foreign bikers to "register" their clubs with that organization (which is a civilian association and not a part of the police department).
And telling them if they don't register then the next time they go for an extension it will be denied.

Which smacks of BS as I'm pretty sure that would require a General Order/Law to be created, approved and posted in the Royal Gazette before they could just start denying Extensions of stay just because you have a "1%" patch on a vest.

Oh and of course, Thai members of clubs, even real "1%ers" are of course exempt. No need to register or anything. 

However, it seems a lot of them are starting to learn what the "1%" patch actually means. There are even members of the Bandidos who think it just means they are in the "top 1%" of all clubs in the country. 

[proton]

9 hours ago, petermik said:

Crackdown aught to start with Immigration officials allowing agents to circumvent the rules.......????

Closing agents would be a good move in the right direction

[BenStark]

9 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I renewed my Extension of Stay/‘Retirement Visa’ today, I always use an agent even though I have the money in the bank, too lazy, hate going to immigration and it’s the other side of the city.

It was a visit to agent office then the bank, rep from agent there as well who took my photo then I had to go to Jomtien and have some one take a photo outside the office showing me standing next to the immigration logo.
Lady in the agent office said more checks were in place now due to the murder of the German fella.

So at the end of the day, how much time did you save, for paying probably 10K extra?

 

When I do my extension, I make an online appointment, and pass the whole queue, and am let in on showing my appointment.

 

30 minutes later I'm outside again. Saved 10K baht at least

[Jumbo1968]

31 minutes ago, proton said:

Closing agents would be a good move in the right direction

So you want to see people go out of business and Thai people having no jobs, agents are a way of life in Thailand, too many of the higher hierarchy on the take making a lucrative living.

Why keep the required amount of money in Thailand paying next to nothing interest when you can keep it in your home country getting interest. 

Edited July 17, 2023 by Jumbo1968
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[proton]

9 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

So you want to see people go out of business and Thai people having no jobs, agents are a way of life in Thailand, too many of the higher hierarchy on the take making a lucrative living.

Why keep the required amount of money in Thailand paying next to nothing interest when you can keep it in your home country getting interest. 

Leeches involved in corruption and law breaking. Why keep the money in Thailand or 65k a month, because they are the rules, if you don't want to keep within the law go home. Don't think it will go on for ever, people always seem to think just because they are getting away with it nothing will change.

[jacko45k]

11 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I have no idea who makes what when you have the ฿800000 in your account, it’s deposited and removed within minutes but immigration must be taking a big cut allegedly ?

The agent and the guy they pay off in immigration... possibly someone at the bank too. 

Edited July 17, 2023 by jacko45k

[Jumbo1968]

7 hours ago, BenStark said:

So at the end of the day, how much time did you save, for paying probably 10K extra?

 

When I do my extension, I make an online appointment, and pass the whole queue, and am let in on showing my appointment.

 

30 minutes later I'm outside again. Saved 10K baht at least

For a start it was less than ฿10k. how I spend my income is my concern, I don’t go through life trying to save money all the time but anything that saves me the time travelling to and thro from Jomtien is fine by me, money well spent.

I also used the same agent to get me a Residence Letter and they do my 90 day reporting for free.

Edited July 17, 2023 by Jumbo1968
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[jacko45k]

7 hours ago, proton said:

Leeches involved in corruption and law breaking. Why keep the money in Thailand or 65k a month, because they are the rules, if you don't want to keep within the law go home. Don't think it will go on for ever, people always seem to think just because they are getting away with it nothing will change.

It doesn't really change...... last time we did have 'change' it made things a bit more difficult and pushed people in the direction of using agents......

[bob smith]

7 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

So you want to see people go out of business and Thai people having no jobs

Honestly, I wouldnt much mind to be honest. 

[Jumbo1968]

11 minutes ago, bob smith said:

Honestly, I wouldnt much mind to be honest. 

Typical I am all right Jack, life is difficult enough for Thai people but you are only thinking of yourself.

[Ralf001]

Why don't they pass a law requiring a Police Clearance Certificate to be presented at check in before being allowed to board the flight.

 

Got criminal history no flight !!

[bob smith]

21 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Typical I am all right Jack, life is difficult enough for Thai people but you are only thinking of yourself.

thais never think of only themselves do they!!

 

ahahahahahaaaaaaaa

[Jumbo1968]

21 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Why don't they pass a law requiring a Police Clearance Certificate to be presented at check in before being allowed to board the flight.

 

Got criminal history no flight !!

How many countries in the world do you need a Police Clearance Check before going on holiday ?

[Jumbo1968]

9 minutes ago, bob smith said:

thais never think of only themselves do they!!

 

ahahahahahaaaaaaaa

Why not it’s their country, you don’t like how they think go home.

[bob smith]

1 minute ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Why not it’s their country, you don’t like how they think go home.

what kind of logic is this??

 

because its their country they are allowed to think about themsleves, but cos im a farang i am not??

 

honestly take a long hard look in the mirror. your statement is beyond silly.

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, Jumbo1968 said:

How many countries in the world do you need a Police Clearance Check before going on holiday ?

The subject matter is Thailand not the whole world.

 

Required criminal checks would certainly aide in the "good guys in bad guys out" mantra that was touted a while back.

[Jumbo1968]

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

The subject matter is Thailand not the whole world.

 

Required criminal checks would certainly aide in the "good guys in bad guys out" mantra that was touted a while back.

Your advocating every one who comes to Thailand as a tourist should have a Police Clearance Check, I can’t see that doing much to boost tourism?

[Jumbo1968]

5 minutes ago, bob smith said:

what kind of logic is this??

 

because its their country they are allowed to think about themsleves, but cos im a farang i am not??

 

honestly take a long hard look in the mirror. your statement is beyond silly.

Yawn, zzzz.

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Your advocating every one who comes to Thailand as a tourist should have a Police Clearance Check, I can’t see that doing much to boost tourism?

Will stop scumbags with criminal histories from entering though !!

[Jumbo1968]

Just now, Ralf001 said:

Will stop scumbags with criminal histories from entering though !!

And thousands of tourists, plenty of other places to visit in S.E. Asia where no Police checks required.

What do you class as a scumbag ?
 

[Ralf001]

2 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

 

What do you class as a scumbag ?
 

Anyone with history that would be shown on  a police check certificate.

[Jumbo1968]

13 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Anyone with history that would be shown on  a police check certificate.

Not every one who has a Police Record is a scumbag.

[Ralf001]

12 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Not every one who has a Police Record is a scumbag.

Ive no problem with tarring them all with the same brush.

[BenStark]

1 hour ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I don’t go through life trying to save money all the time but anything that saves me the time travelling to and thro from Jomtien is fine by me, money well spent.

Well, that didn't work out well then obviously, so money wasted.

 

It was a visit to agent office then the bank, rep from agent there as well who took my photo then I had to go to Jomtien and have some one take a photo outside the office showing me standing next to the immigration logo.

 

2 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I also used the same agent to get me a Residence Letter

Since I have a yellow book and pink ID card, I never need them, so definite don't have to pay an agent for it.

 

2 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

and they do my 90 day reporting for free.

I do mine also for free from the convenience of home, takes me about 5 minutes, and no need to travel to the agent to hand in and pick up my passport