Republicans up the personal attacks on Biden and his family

[EVENKEEL]

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

I know which side of the truth I'd prefer to be living in.  It must be tough trying to believe all these looming indictments are just a "big lie".

 

 

You've derailed yet again, get back on track

[EVENKEEL]

3 hours ago, LosLobo said:

I base my opinions on factual evidence.

 

As yet there is no convincing evidence that Joe Biden has done anything illegal.

 

Ezekiel 18 : 'Neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son'.

I posted a link that you said couldn't be trusted because it was Fox, so you're saying it's a lie. 

 

Please stop the deflecting.

[candide]

20 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I posted a link that you said couldn't be trusted because it was Fox, so you're saying it's a lie. 

 

Please stop the deflecting.

Well, if you trust the NYPost then you should believe this:

"VP Biden greeted the Ukrainians but spoke only in vague pleasantries during the short call, and in other such interactions with Hunter’s overseas business partners, Archer is expected to testify. "

https://nypost.com/2023/07/23/hunter-biden-put-then-vp-dad-joe-on-the-phone-with-business-associates-at-least-2-dozen-times-ex-partner-devon-archer-to-testify/

 

What about those walls closing?

 

[LosLobo]

 

3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Must be so nice to live in a comfy bubble where all the bad stuff isn't true. So, you're saying the entire article is one big lie, correct? 

 

25 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I posted a link that you said couldn't be trusted because it was Fox, so you're saying it's a lie. 

 

Please stop the deflecting.

I agree, my general opinion of Fox is that it 'couldn't be trusted' to be a source of reliable information.

 

But, you seem to be the only one mentioning 'lie'. 

 

Please point to where I said 'lie' or point to a dictionary where not trusted exclusively and explicitly means a 'lie'.

 

I must admit that not all of Fox's content is a lie, as the real purpose of propaganda is to mix lies with truth to not only make the rhetoric seem believable to some but to also confuse the hell out of the others who can generally discerned the difference, and TBH the latter often includes myself.

 

 

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

You're not really helping hunter's defense since these are the types hunter does business with.

I wasn't defending Hunter, I was pointing out that Devon Archer is not trustworthy.

[scottiejohn]

43 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Devon Archer is not trustworthy.

Is any politician of any party/country or their "advisers/inner circle" trustworthy?

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2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

You're not really helping hunter's defense since these are the types hunter does business with.

You make an excellent point. I, for one, will now support the impeachment of Hunter Biden.

[EVENKEEL]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

You make an excellent point. I, for one, will now support the impeachment of Hunter Biden.

Let's see what he has to say about the big guy. Title reads biden and his family.

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

You've derailed yet again, get back on track

No, just explaining why the GOP are so enamoured with deriding Biden. They can't defend their own guy so that leaves the only option left open to them.

[heybruce]

10 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Let's see what he has to say about the big guy. Title reads biden and his family.

I was replying to a post that said Archer would provide incriminating testimony about the Bidens.  Since he is a convicted fraudster anything he states that is not backed up with additional evidence is not credible.  That is on-topic.

Edited July 25, 2023 by heybruce

[pomchop]

So repubs want to attack Biden on family values and his relationship with a grand kid?  Might want to find another angle.  Well let's compare that to the Donald's relationship with his kids....those little things all on tape like how if Ivanka were not his daughter he would want to have sex with her etc ...real family values there.

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/173968/donald-trump-fantasized-sex-ivanka-new-book-says

 

in his own words: 

 

  https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/donald-trump-once-joked-he-ivanka-have-sex-common-941600/

 

 

For those who might have missed it Donald has been and is being indicted all over everywhere by grand juries who have looked at real evidence and have voted to indict him on a variety of criminal charges....but sure go ahead and ignore that and try and change the subject but maybe find something other than family values?  

[heybruce]

15 minutes ago, pomchop said:

So repubs want to attack Biden on family values and his relationship with a grand kid?  Might want to find another angle.  Well let's compare that to the Donald's relationship with his kids....those little things all on tape like how if Ivanka were not his daughter he would want to have sex with her etc ...real family values there.

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/173968/donald-trump-fantasized-sex-ivanka-new-book-says

 

in his own words: 

 

  https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/donald-trump-once-joked-he-ivanka-have-sex-common-941600/

 

 

For those who might have missed it Donald has been and is being indicted all over everywhere by grand juries who have looked at real evidence and have voted to indict him on a variety of criminal charges....but sure go ahead and ignore that and try and change the subject but maybe find something other than family values?  

As disturbing as his fascination with his daughter is, I think a better indicator of his lack of character, integrity and family values is his fling with a porn star while his wife was recovering from giving birth to his son.

[BKKKevin]

House Republicans have asked the Treasury Dept for all of Commanders bank transactions...

Edited July 25, 2023 by BKKKevin

[BKKKevin]

14 minutes ago, heybruce said:

As disturbing as his fascination with his daughter is, I think a better indicator of his lack of character, integrity and family values is his fling with a porn star while his wife was recovering from giving birth to his son.

This behavior is not illegal and perfectly in line with evangelical Christianity...

[pomchop]

1 hour ago, BKKKevin said:

This behavior is not illegal and perfectly in line with evangelical Christianity...

Is there a bigger set of hypocrites in the world than evangelical republicans?  If their man jesus showed up at their doorstep they would either shoot him, deport him, call the cops, or try and hang him....they sure as heck do not come anywhere close to practicing what he preached.

[SunnyinBangrak]

More lies. More cheating. More dishonesty. I suppose why would they stop now it has worked perfectly for the bidens for the last 3 years , but this one's a duesy

 

"Earlier today, House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Jason Smith filed a brief to Judge Noreika, suggesting that she toss Hunter's 'sweetheart' plea deal with Delaware prosecutors due to claims they gave the President's son preferential treatment.

It is claimed that Hunter's attorney Chris Clark later called the Delaware clerk - pretending to be from the office of Smith's attorney, Theodore Kittila - asking them to remove the original filing and, with it, 448 pages of Congressional testimony from the two IRS investigators who worked on the case."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12337439/Hunter-Bidens-lawyers-face-SANCTIONS-accused-lying-clerk-criminal-case-judge-orders-Sons-attorneys-explain-tonight.html

 

I am thankful to the excellent investigative journalism being done by the Daily Mail, apart from the NYP it's about the only media outlet that has been interested and honest while reporting on the biden corruption saga and its coverup. 

 

[EVENKEEL]

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

I was replying to a post that said Archer would provide incriminating testimony about the Bidens.  Since he is a convicted fraudster anything he states that is not backed up with additional evidence is not credible.  That is on-topic.

So what would this guys angle be if he's lying? What's in it for him? 

[SunnyinBangrak]

17 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

So what would this guys angle be if he's lying? What's in it for him? 

Why would any of these whistleblowers be lying? Shapley and Zeigler(not exactly fitting the maga profile is he lads?). Their testimony is under oath. If they are lying they can be jailed this is not some hate campaign against the poor innocent bidens. 

 PLus not one single biden fan here has explained - or even attempted to explain - why all these payments to multiple biden family members including children (that the left denied ever occurred for years until the oversight committee got hold of the bank records) were made at all. Not one single poster! 

Note the narrative changed YET AGAIN

 

"White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre is deploying new language distancing President Biden from his son's business in advance of potentially damaging testimony by Hunter's friend and former partner.

Rather than saying the father and son never discussed Hunter's array of international business deals – language Biden himself has used – Jean-Pierre said the two were never 'in business' together."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12335725/White-House-fire-changing-answers-Joes-involvement-Hunters-shady-deals-Karine-Jean-Pierre-says-Biden-never-business-son-months-insisting-never-discussed-it.html

 

so looks like everyone accepts that Joe DID discuss buesiness with his son, that he and his fans moved heaven and earth to deny ever happened. What next??

 

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

So what would this guys angle be if he's lying? What's in it for him? 

Who knows?  Perhaps he's being investigated in something illegal and attempting to cut a deal.  Perhaps he thinks a media spotlight will benefit him. 

 

Regardless, his testimony without supporting evidence will be worthless.

[Hanaguma]

4 hours ago, pomchop said:

So repubs want to attack Biden on family values and his relationship with a grand kid?  Might want to find another angle.  Well let's compare that to the Donald's relationship with his kids....those little things all on tape like how if Ivanka were not his daughter he would want to have sex with her etc ...real family values there.

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/173968/donald-trump-fantasized-sex-ivanka-new-book-says

 

in his own words: 

 

  https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/donald-trump-once-joked-he-ivanka-have-sex-common-941600/

 

 

For those who might have missed it Donald has been and is being indicted all over everywhere by grand juries who have looked at real evidence and have voted to indict him on a variety of criminal charges....but sure go ahead and ignore that and try and change the subject but maybe find something other than family values?  

Here we go again. The "b-b-but Trump..." defense.  

The topic is about Joe Biden and his rank hypocrisy.  Anything to add about Joe and his predilicitions? Or are you so infatuated with the Bad Orange Man that he infects all of your thoughts and dreams...

[pomchop]

5 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Here we go again. The "b-b-but Trump..." defense.  

The topic is about Joe Biden and his rank hypocrisy.  Anything to add about Joe and his predilicitions? Or are you so infatuated with the Bad Orange Man that he infects all of your thoughts and dreams...

if you don't like it don't read it...the entire topic is the WHAT ABOUT theme....as in what about that horrible joe biden but don't dare look at the orange buffon who has been charged with REAL crimes not a bunch of oh what a bad granddad he is...

[EVENKEEL]

34 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Who knows?  Perhaps he's being investigated in something illegal and attempting to cut a deal.  Perhaps he thinks a media spotlight will benefit him. 

 

Regardless, his testimony without supporting evidence will be worthless.

Who knows? Could be the truth, couldn't it?

 

IRS agents whistleblowers Shapley and Zeigler must be lying as well then but for what gain. Why would a gay dem want to incriminate joe biden unless it's true? The poster above made an excellent post and the link is interesting.

[Hanaguma]

4 minutes ago, pomchop said:

if you don't like it don't read it...the entire topic is the WHAT ABOUT theme....as in what about that horrible joe biden but don't dare look at the orange buffon who has been charged with REAL crimes not a bunch of oh what a bad granddad he is...

If ALL you have to say is "Trump was worse" then you have very low standards.  Trump never claimed to be a good family man, as Biden has for decades. 

 

So, do you think it is OK that Biden nuzzles and sniffs girls/women without their consent? Let's get back on track. 

[SunnyinBangrak]

10 minutes ago, pomchop said:

if you don't like it don't read it...the entire topic is the WHAT ABOUT theme....as in what about that horrible joe biden but don't dare look at the orange buffon who has been charged with REAL crimes not a bunch of oh what a bad granddad he is...

Multi million $ extortion and orruption with America's adversarie is REAL crime. Having consensual sexual relations with an adult and chucking het a few bob to stay schtum less so. IMO

[heybruce]

19 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Who knows? Could be the truth, couldn't it?

 

IRS agents whistleblowers Shapley and Zeigler must be lying as well then but for what gain. Why would a gay dem want to incriminate joe biden unless it's true? The poster above made an excellent post and the link is interesting.

You don't convict based on "could be guilty".  Even with a witness of unquestioned integrity testimony must be backed up by evidence to get a conviction.  That's why so many "he said, she said" rape cases are dropped.

 

Devon Archer is a convicted fraudster.  He is a highly compromised witness.  Without supporting evidence his testimony is worthless.  Why do you find that difficult to grasp?

 

 

[EVENKEEL]

2 minutes ago, heybruce said:

You don't convict based on "could be guilty".  Even with a witness of unquestioned integrity testimony must be backed up by evidence to get a conviction.  That's why so many "he said, she said" rape cases are dropped.

 

Devon Archer is a convicted fraudster.  He is a highly compromised witness.  Without supporting evidence his testimony is worthless.  Why do you find that difficult to grasp?

 

 

I see you keep focusing on Archer and forget about the IRS agents. We'll see what happens.

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

PLus not one single biden fan here has explained - or even attempted to explain - why all these payments to multiple biden family members including children (that the left denied ever occurred for years until the oversight committee got hold of the bank records) were made at all. Not one single poster! 

Note the narrative changed YET AGAIN

They can't,  there is really no defense. 

[Bkk Brian]

27 minutes ago, pomchop said:

if you don't like it don't read it...the entire topic is the WHAT ABOUT theme....as in what about that horrible joe biden but don't dare look at the orange buffon who has been charged with REAL crimes not a bunch of oh what a bad granddad he is...

Here's another take from a republican in the OP

“the idea that a crack-fueled roll in the hay entitles the mother to be treated like an honored member of the family is absurd.”

 

Its interesting to witness however how all these personal attacks on Biden by some media and far right are just exposing the higher standards that they are imposing on the Democrats. When nothing is expected of you because you do nothing, then all you have left is to attack others.

 

"So we have one man who as far as we know has been a good and decent family man all his life, and about whom we now discover this one seeming inconsistency, and he gets slammed. And we have another man who’s gone through three wives (the first one of whom once said he raped her), who has pretty obviously cheated on all of them though he denies it, who has bragged about grabbing numerous women by the p---y, and who according to a new book speculated what it would be like to have sex with his own daughter—and he’s fine, because we know he’s a creep."

 

[EVENKEEL]

24 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Here's another take from a republican in the OP

“the idea that a crack-fueled roll in the hay entitles the mother to be treated like an honored member of the family is absurd.”

 

Its interesting to witness however how all these personal attacks on Biden by some media and far right are just exposing the higher standards that they are imposing on the Democrats. When nothing is expected of you because you do nothing, then all you have left is to attack others.

 

"So we have one man who as far as we know has been a good and decent family man all his life, and about whom we now discover this one seeming inconsistency, and he gets slammed. And we have another man who’s gone through three wives (the first one of whom once said he raped her), who has pretty obviously cheated on all of them though he denies it, who has bragged about grabbing numerous women by the p---y, and who according to a new book speculated what it would be like to have sex with his own daughter—and he’s fine, because we know he’s a creep."

 

Yep, pretty well sums it up. When a little innocent girl is abandoned by her biological grandparents and her father, it tugs at America's heartstrings. More than locker room banter and tabloid accusations.

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Yep, pretty well sums it up. When a little innocent girl is abandoned by her biological grandparents and her father, it tugs at America's heartstrings. More than locker room banter and tabloid accusations.

Can you explain how my post sums that up?