Heat Wave Mania

[Skipalongcassidy]

[doctormann]

UN chief Antonio Guterres said the planet is entering an "era of global boiling".

 

Quick, quick, press the panic button!

[Skipalongcassidy]

I see that 3 (so far) are confused by this graph... probably dems or activists... It shows that the high temperature that we are experiencing today are just part of the continuum and it is not "global warming"... https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/not-climate-change-causing-heat-waves-this-summer-explain#&_intcmp=fnhpriver_19

[connda]

22 minutes ago, doctormann said:

UN chief Antonio Guterres said the planet is entering an "era of global boiling".

 

Quick, quick, press the panic button!

Actually, the planet is entering an "era of global 'climate change' hyperbole that is boiling over."

[KhunLA]

Shh ... never let facts get in the way of a good spin ... ????

[Skipalongcassidy]

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

Shh ... never let facts get in the way of a good spin ... ????

The "spin" as you put it is by the activists... it's about power and control

[sirineou]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Why are posting a copy of your EKG?

[gamb00ler]

36 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

I see that 3 (so far) are confused by this graph... probably dems or activists... It shows that the high temperature that we are experiencing today are just part of the continuum and it is not "global warming"... https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/not-climate-change-causing-heat-waves-this-summer-explain#&_intcmp=fnhpriver_19

Is that the same Fox news that paid 780M US$ to avoid having their lies all laid out in court?

[sirineou]

Also please google "Heat wave index " it seems that non of you really hnows what it means. 

[KhunLA]

24 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

The "spin" as you put it is by the activists... it's about power and control

Agree 100%

[gamb00ler]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

what a shame it doesn't show data bast 2021?  It must be a conspiracy!

[sirineou]

3 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Agree 100%

What is it that you agree too? That none of you have any idea what a " A heat weave Index  " Is? 

" The heat index, also known as the apparent temperature, is what the temperature feels like to the human body when relative humidity is combined with the air temperature. "

https://www.weather.gov/ama/heatindex#:~:text=The heat index%2C also known,for the human body's comfort.

The operative words here is "feels like to the human body "  So at some time the combination of humidity and heat made feel to humans it high, what does that mean .

When you are baking something and the recipe calls for 500f do you set your oven to 350f and throw some water in there to make the food feel like 500f 

 

But hey! why let facts get in the way of a good bias. 

[Eleftheros]

2 minutes ago, sirineou said:

But hey! why let facts get in the way of a good bias. 

That is indeed the accepted slogan of the climate zealots, but they try not to say it out loud so much these days.

[gamb00ler]

@Skipalongcassidy. nice graph about weather in the US.  The actual issue is a global one not restricted to the huge plains in the middle of North America.  Try again!

[HighPriority]

I think for myself and do my own research !

Oh look, my fav opinionist is on Fox...

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On 7/28/2023 at 7:26 AM, Skipalongcassidy said:

 

 

 

On 7/28/2023 at 8:09 AM, Skipalongcassidy said:

I see that 3 (so far) are confused by this graph... probably dems or activists... It shows that the high temperature that we are experiencing today are just part of the continuum and it is not "global warming"... https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/not-climate-change-causing-heat-waves-this-summer-explain#&_intcmp=fnhpriver_19

This graph does not show what you clearly think it does and what the author of that article in Fox News wants you to believe it does.

Here's the definition of the Heat Wave Index

"The U.S. Annual Heat Wave Index tracks the occurrence of heat wave conditions across the contiguous 48 states from 1895 to 2020. This index defines a heat wave as a period lasting at least four days with an average temperature that would only be expected to occur once every 10 years, based on the historical record"

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293872/us-heat-wave-index/#:~:text=The U.S. Annual Heat Wave Index tracks the,every 10 years%2C based on the historical record.

 

So the heat wave index is not a measure of absolute heat, but rather relative heat. What follows is a graph of average temperature measurements for the continentailUS in the 20th century

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/beyond-data/mapping-us-climate-trends

 

So it takes a lot higher heat to qualify as a heat wave nowadays. 

 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by metisdead
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[heybruce]

Why rely on science when you have a Fox News opinion piece to tell you what to think.

 

Also, and I know this is difficult for some people to grasp, what is happening in the US is not necessarily indicative of what is happening globally.

[Skipalongcassidy]

4 hours ago, heybruce said:

Why rely on science when you have a Fox News opinion piece to tell you what to think.

 

Also, and I know this is difficult for some people to grasp, what is happening in the US is not necessarily indicative of what is happening globally.

When it is broken down to specific areas... in this case the USA... some temperatures are up and some are down... so for you to say that it is global is misleading... global is all inclusive and the facts are that it is not a global trend at all but rather is a locational phenomena.

[gamb00ler]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

When it is broken down to specific areas... in this case the USA... some temperatures are up and some are down... so for you to say that it is global is misleading... global is all inclusive and the facts are that it is not a global trend at all but rather is a locational phenomena.

The more posts you make in this vein, the more obvious it is that you don't comprehend the difference between weather and climate.  Try again!

[Skipalongcassidy]

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

The more posts you make in this vein, the more obvious it is that you don't comprehend the difference between weather and climate.  Try again!

Pray tell... enlighten me.

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

The more posts you make in this vein, the more obvious it is that you don't comprehend the difference between weather and climate.  Try again!

Actually he is spot on, as la nina & el nino affect different areas differently, globally.

 

Experts vs bar stools ... 

 

"While El Niño and La Niña do impact global climate patterns; however, they neither affect all regions nor do are their impacts in a given region the same. In many locations, especially in the tropics, La Niña (or cold episodes) produces roughly the opposite climate variations from El Niño."

https://www.unocha.org/themes/el-niño/el-niño-and-la-niña#:~:text=While El Niño and La,climate variations from El Niño.

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2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

When it is broken down to specific areas... in this case the USA... some temperatures are up and some are down... so for you to say that it is global is misleading... global is all inclusive and the facts are that it is not a global trend at all but rather is a locational phenomena.

What don't you understand about the fact that the average temperature for the 48 contiguous states has been on a steady upwards trend that aligns with the global upwards trend?

[gamb00ler]

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

The more posts you make in this vein, the more obvious it is that you don't comprehend the difference between weather and climate.  Try again!

 

40 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Pray tell... enlighten me.

You presented a graph constructed from data gathered in USA and claimed it refuted what climatologists are claiming.  USA makes up less than 2% of Earth's surface, so you should think of that data as localized data.  The climate problem involves the entire planet and the <2% in USA is should not be construed as indicative of the global situation.

Edited July 29, 2023 by gamb00ler

[sirineou]

9 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

 

You presented a graph constructed from data gathered in USA and claimed it refuted what climatologists are claiming.  USA makes up less than 2% of Earth's surface, so you should think of that data as localized data.  The climate problem involves the entire planet and the <2% in USA is should not be construed as indicative of the global situation.

That's nothing.

In another thread someone posted statistics from a state in the use as an indication against global warming????

The premise of this whole thread , in the op is based on a graph of the heat wave index apparently having no idea what the "Heat wave index" is, and not even bothering to google the term before they started a thread.

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, sirineou said:

The premise of this whole thread , in the op is based on a graph of the heat wave index apparently having no idea what the "Heat wave index" is, and not even bothering to google the term before they started a thread.

I'd assume that a 'heat wave index' was a statistical fantasy invented by climate alarmists to push their agenda.

No need to look up anything.

[sirineou]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I'd assume that a 'heat wave index' was a statistical fantasy invented by climate alarmists to push their agenda.

No need to look up anything.

And you would be wrong!! But why stop now? 

[BritManToo]

6 minutes ago, sirineou said:

And you would be wrong!! But why stop now? 

This is your religion and not mine.

But tell me what steps you personally take (apart from talk) to stop climate change?

[sirineou]

18 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

This is your religion and not mine.

But tell me what steps you personally take (apart from talk) to stop climate change?

What do you know of my religion or lack thereof? Please stick to things you know, Part of your problem is that you don't.

As to what parts I personally take to stop climate change is not germane  to the conversation of this thread. And a deflection on your part. Please excuse me for not taking the bait. 

Edited July 29, 2023 by sirineou

[gargamon]

So you post a chart from a piece clearly labeled as OPINION as if it's fact? Nice try. 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/

opinion

/not-climate-change-causing-heat-waves-this-summer-explain#&_intcmp=fnhpriver_19

[heybruce]

19 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

When it is broken down to specific areas... in this case the USA... some temperatures are up and some are down... so for you to say that it is global is misleading... global is all inclusive and the facts are that it is not a global trend at all but rather is a locational phenomena.

I didn't post that it was global.  Where did you get that idea?