Silly pronoun use ... IMHO

[NoDisplayName]

1 hour ago, Mr Derek said:

They do it to be deliberately provocative. They could have invented completely new pronouns, but no - they want to commandeer existing pronouns. It's madness because it's simply confusing.

The only explanation is that it's a attempt to shoehorn themselves into the existing scheme, and if that upsets the everyday meaning of things, then so be it. Subverting the normal order - undermining the foundations of conventional society - is one of their defining characteristics.  

 

Sure, I'll accept your preferred pronouns.

As long as you accept mine.

Agreed?

 

Groovy.

Cool beans.

My pronoun shall be "Massa."

 

[KhunLA]

1 minute ago, soalbundy said:

Yes, there are many ways to mutilate a language, some endearing, others not so much. The American southern drawl I find just as obnoxious as the London accent of my home city, it took me years to get rid of it.

Well shucks, bust my buttons, reckon y'all feel cleansed now.  Them there accents, they be a chick magnet in the states.   ????

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

Dude!

Why are you complaining about people complaining?

Shirley, there are more serious issues.

Who's Shirley?

[soalbundy]

8 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Anyone expecting me to call them, i.e. only one person, 'they' or 'them', would hear from me: "We (l) don't do that."

That might elicit the reply, '' Oh, are you as confused as me'', to which you could reply, ''Y'all knows ah wus jus jokin.

[bignok]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Who's Shirley?

Shirley he was joking

[transam]

30 minutes ago, bignok said:

Dunno if i wanna watcha da movie as its like be crappa gotta run outta here cya later alligator

That's Rastafarian, init.....Bro.............????️

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Who is they? 

People you don't like?

Generally speaking? Woke left wingers who's default response to an interesting conversation is "You can't say that!!!".

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Agree.

 

I'm still have issue with the redefining of 'vaccine'  so big Pharma could avoid lawsuits.   That took things to a new level.

 

Along the same lines.  BUT ... Another topic for another day/thread.  Same with history being rewritten.

 

Let's keep it on pronouns ...

... so, 2 full pages and we're all still civil ... ok, told I lied, instead of being mistaken, but probably just 'misspoke' ????

You appear innocent of Wrongspeak so far. Well done.????

 

Not so sure about Wrongthink. 

[StayinThailand2much]

32 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

That might elicit the reply, '' Oh, are you as confused as me'', to which you could reply, ''Y'all knows ah wus jus jokin.

LOL

[StayinThailand2much]

23 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Generally speaking? Woke left wingers who's default response to an interesting conversation is "You can't say that!!!".

That always confused me. Those people not only pretend to be tolerant, and want to be treated "equally", but, at the same time, they only accept one opinion, theirs! Not to mention that they want their own privileges.

Edited August 1, 2023 by StayinThailand2much

[GreasyFingers]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Define woke.

American

[GreasyFingers]

3 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

its saying good day to a passer by instead of G/day or saying Football instead of Footy lazymans English.

That would be difficult for an Australian, mate

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Generally speaking? Woke left wingers who's default response to an interesting conversation is "You can't say that!!!".

Translation: Right wingers want to be able to spout willful ignorance, hatred and bigotry and be guaranteed to never face any consequences for any of their speech.

[Callmeishmael]

 

Here is the person from the OP.  If I hadn't been told differently, I'd say that they's a she.  Of course, in Thailand there are a lot of he's that look like she's!

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, Callmeishmael said:

 

Here is the person from the OP.  If I hadn't been told differently, I'd say that they's a she.  Of course, in Thailand there are a lot of he's that look like she's!

 

Her hair and boots shout they.

[brianthainess]

I cants take no more

[FruitPudding]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I could care less and wonder why does anyone else. 

People complaining about this when there are so many incredibly serious issues in the world. Crazy.

The problem is: these sniveling little maniacs are telling people how to speak the English language. Like, seriously, how dare they?

 

Language changes take time, you can't shove it down people's throats.

 

That's not the solution to everything, unfortunately.

 

You get to choose your own name, but you don't get to introduce countless new pronouns to the English language and then force everyone to use them.

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, FruitPudding said:

The problem is: these sniveling little maniacs are telling people how to speak the English language. Like, seriously, how dare they?

 

Language changes take time, you can't shove it down people's throats.

 

That's not the solution to everything, unfortunately.

 

You get to choose your own name, but you don't get to introduce countless new pronouns to the English language and then force everyone to use them.

 

 

 

Brownie points for not saying people are shoving their pronouns down your throat.

[FruitPudding]

19 minutes ago, Callmeishmael said:

 

Here is the person from the OP.  If I hadn't been told differently, I'd say that they's a she.  Of course, in Thailand there are a lot of he's that look like she's!

 

It's not that difficult.

 

My instincts tell me this is a female.

 

Having acquired English as my first language in the pre-woke era, I will naturally call her 'she' and it's correct to do so.

 

It's just natural because that's the way we acquired the language. It may be different in a few decades.

 

The English language is free and changes.

[FruitPudding]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Brownie points for not saying people are shoving their pronouns down your throat.

Certainly not, unless they buy me a few drinks first. ????

[spidermike007]

I think America is the country most infected with this malady. The other day I got an email and on the signature it had her name and after it she/her. Huh? 

 

Personally, I despise PC. I think it represents alot of what is wrong with contemporary culture, and especially America today. It is a major form of weakness, when you allow yourself to be easily offended, and take everything personally. Granted, there are things that can be perceived as offensive, but allowing yourself to be offended by tiny little things people say and do is a bit much! But, the people who are offended daily, by things others say, are just weak, and would benefit by growing thicker skin. Life can be rough and caustic at times, and for those of us who have grown thick skin, it is like water off a ducks back. No big deal, at all. Think what you want to think. It just does not mean anything to those with self esteem, and a sense of who and what they are. Granted, these are just my opinions, and some will take offense to them. LOL. 

 

The notion that political correctness has “gone mad” is familiar to anyone who follows even vaguely any aspect of modern political or cultural life. The phrase, ostensibly referring to language or action that is designed to avoid offence or harm to protected groups, has become a sharp criticism. It is synonymous with a sort of cultural McCarthyism, usually committed by the left.

 

https://www.economist.com/open-future/2018/09/10/has-political-correctness-gone-too-far

 

 

A Rasmussen poll found that 71 percent of Americans think political correctness is a problem today. When is being politically correct more about civility and politeness? When when does it veer into censorship? When is it justified? When is it not justified?

 

https://www.jacksonville.com/opinion/2016-09-30/has-political-correctness-gone-too-far

 

University of Connecticut officials sent out a campus-wide email advising its students that the school would provide counseling sessions in response to political commentator and Harvard Law alum Ben Shapiro’s slated speaking event at the university. The ironic part is that the counseling sessions were offered before Shapiro even stepped foot on campus. When I was in law school, Bill Clinton came and spoke. While I wasn't traumatized, I wonder whether the administration would have provided counselors for all the women in attendance.

 

https://clclt.com/charlotte/pc-culture-10-times-its-gone-too-far/Content?oid=16059883

 

 

[KhunLA]

35 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

You get to choose your own name, but you don't get to introduce countless new pronouns to the English language and then force everyone to use them.

New ones, pronouns or words are introduced all the time, and accepted.  But you really can't take established pronouns, that don't even come close to what you are trying to say.   They & Them in a singular form just doesn't read or sound right.

 

"Hey where's Bob ? "

..."They went to the bar to grab a beer"

"Cool, who's with Bob ?"

... "He's alone"

"huh ... ????"

Edited August 1, 2023 by KhunLA

[blackcab]

The issue as I see it, is that pronouns (he, she, they, etc.) are normally used when the person is not present. When the person is present you would normally use their name.

 

What this means is that a person who wants you to use their preferred pronouns wants to compel you to use their choice of words whenever you are not in their presence.

 

Not even most governments compel you to use words that are not your own choice. As such preferred pronouns are always going to be on the opposing side to people arguing for their own US freedom of speech or EU Article 11 rights.

[FruitPudding]

3 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

New ones, pronouns or words are introduced all the time, and accepted.  But you really can't take established pronouns, that don't even come close to what you are trying to say.   They & Them in a singular form just doesn't read or sound right.

 

"Hey where's Bob ? "

..."They went to the bar to grab a beer"

"Cool, who's with Bob ?"

... "He's alone"

"huh ... ????"

Exactly

 

But the new words that are introduced to English come naturally, rather than forced on some moral high ground.

[Myran]

What on Earth are you people on about? "Singular they" has been used for hundreds of years to refer to people in (you guessed it) singular. It's not some recent invention of the woke movement, as you seem to think.

 

The fact that you thought it was incorrect really says alot about your English skills.

[cleopatra2]

14 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

New ones, pronouns or words are introduced all the time, and accepted.  But you really can't take established pronouns, that don't even come close to what you are trying to say.   They & Them in a singular form just doesn't read or sound right.

 

"Hey where's Bob ? "

..."They went to the bar to grab a beer"

"Cool, who's with Bob ?"

... "He's alone"

"huh ... ????"

Oh come on !

 

The singular pronoun They is used when the subject has been introduced but the sex has not been identified.

 

" They " as a singular pronoun is used in spoken English regularly , and is recorded in literature from 18th , 19th century.

[bubblegum]

I'm not English/American?etc. so I'm not sure but for someone complaining about the use of language you (OP) seen to be using the word "actually" a lot and not in the way it is supposed to be used?

[KhunLA]

18 minutes ago, blackcab said:

The issue as I see it, is that pronouns (he, she, they, etc.) are normally used when the person is not present. When the person is present you would normally use their name.

 

What this means is that a person who wants you to use their preferred pronouns wants to compel you to use their choice of words whenever you are not in their presence.

 

Not even most governments compel you to use words that are not your own choice. As such preferred pronouns are always going to be on the opposing side to people arguing for their own US freedom of speech or EU Article 11 rights.

Freedom of Speech doesn't seem to be allowed in this instance in a few states, (USA) as people have lost their jobs for not using someone's preferred pronoun.

[KhunLA]

5 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

I'm not English/American?etc. so I'm not sure but for someone complaining about the use of language you (OP) seen to be using the word "actually" a lot and not in the way it is supposed to be used?

You might want to look up the definition.  Actually I am ... ????

[BangkokReady]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Define woke.

What's the point?  People keep defining it for you and you keep pretending it doesn't have a definition because you don't want people to be able to use the word.  ????‍♂️