ChatGPT DOES have a left-wing bias: Scientists confirm the AI bot's responses favour the Democrats in the US and the Labour Party in the UK

[BangkokReady]

On 8/17/2023 at 3:23 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

There’s certainly bias.

 

Arguably the most significant technological revolution in human history and you choose to ask it questions rooted in rightwing grievances.

"It's OK for AI to be racist, as long as it's not right-wing racist."

 

You're really something else!

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Are there any right-wing techies?

Why would there not be?

 

A quick search in google helps:

 

Elon Musk Is a Far-Right Activist

 

Elon Musk launches his own AI company to compete with ChatGPT

[BangkokReady]

On 8/17/2023 at 6:13 PM, youreavinalaff said:

For the very last time, I have not made any claims, statements or assumptions. It was an open comment.

 

If you disagree with it, that's fine. If you believe it's a different figure, please offer that figure. No link needed. Just make a suggestion. Just like normal people do during discussions 

Unfortunately, once you've been designated an "enemy", you're targeted for argumentative destruction.

 

All's fair in love and [tribal] war for these guys, so the truth doesn't matter. You disagreed with one of their tribe so you must be destroyed.

 

Quite tiring to deal with, but that's the point. If they can harass you to the point that you don't want to engage anymore, then they have won and they're a step closer to controlling the narrative.

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why would there not be?

 

A quick search in google helps:

 

Elon Musk Is a Far-Right Activist

 

Elon Musk launches his own AI company to compete with ChatGPT

Elon didn't even occur to me, although I'm not sure if he's right wing.

 

The left are so noisy and have so much power and control, it's hard to remember any non-left-wing people exist sometimes.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

Elon didn't even occur to me, although I'm not sure if he's right wing.

 

The left are so noisy and have so much power and control, it's hard to remember any non-left-wing people exist sometimes.

Elon seems pretty sure.

 

From self-proclaimed ‘socialist’ to Team Trump and DeSantis: Elon Musk’s curious politics revealed

Since 2022, his public political stances have taken a sharp rightward turn as he declared his support for the Republican Party, aligned himself with far-right activists on Twitter, disparaged transgender rights, embraced conservative conspiracy theories, and pledged to save civilisation from the “woke mind virus”.

 

The noisy left ..........lol

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

"It's OK for AI to be racist, as long as it's not right-wing racist."

 

You're really something else!

As I’ve suggested earlier, maybe AI has a broader view.

[BangkokReady]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

As I’ve suggested earlier, maybe AI has a broader view.

It factually doesn't.

 

It's been programmed to have the response that the person you were replying to shared.

 

It's clear what it means when there is a different response to "proud to be X" depending on the race. It gives a similar response when asked about different religions.

 

The AI has been programmed to be dishonest and say it cannot or does not give certain opinions, when it clearly can and does.

 

It's racism, but it's racism that you're OK with, which is why you're trying to justify it through dishonesty. (I apologise if you're simply ignorant of how the AI works, but I find that hard to believe.)

Edited August 20, 2023 by BangkokReady

[BangkokReady]

16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Elon seems pretty sure.

Your evidence says the opoosite:

 

"proclaims himself ‘neither left nor right’."

[Bkk Brian]

22 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Your evidence says the opoosite:

 

"proclaims himself ‘neither left nor right’."

My quoted post, "Since 2022."

 

But seeing as you've quoted one snippet, I presume you also believe the rest of the article. 

[BangkokReady]

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

My quoted post, "Since 2022."

 

But seeing as you've quoted one snippet, I presume you also believe the rest of the article. 

Are you saying the article says that he both says that he is neither left- nor right-wing and that he is definitely right-wing?

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Are you saying the article says that he both says that he is neither left- nor right-wing and that he is definitely right-wing?

When you say your going to vote Republican what does that make you? from 2022:

 

"In the past I voted Democrat, because they were (mostly) the kindness party. But they have become the party of division & hate, so I can no longer support them and will vote Republican."

[BangkokReady]

10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

When you say your going to vote Republican what does that make you?

A person that is voting Republican?

 

You can vote for a "right-wing" party and not be "right-wing" yourself.  Just as you can say something that a "right-wing" person might agree with without personally "being right-wing". 

 

Someone could easily say that they like one left-wing candidate one year (Obama, for example) and then say that they dislike a left-wing candidate the following year (someone like Hillary).  it's the mark of being intelligent, to think about things in terms of "what is the right thing to do", rather than "we have to blindly follow them, they're from our tribe".

 

I assume this is you admitting that the article doesn't actually support what you said, and clearly shows that Musk said he was neither left-nor right-wing.

[ozimoron]

5 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Or it was programmed that way by the left-wing programmers...  ????

Because right wing programmers are too stupid to code AI?

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

A person that is voting Republican?

 

You can vote for a "right-wing" party and not be "right-wing" yourself.  Just as you can say something that a "right-wing" person might agree with without personally "being right-wing". 

 

Someone could easily say that they like one left-wing candidate one year (Obama, for example) and then say that they dislike a left-wing candidate the following year (someone like Hillary).  it's the mark of being intelligent, to think about things in terms of "what is the right thing to do", rather than "we have to blindly follow them, they're from our tribe".

 

I assume this is you admitting that the article doesn't actually support what you said, and clearly shows that Musk said he was neither left-nor right-wing.

I assume this is you admitting that the article doesn't actually support what you said, and clearly shows that Musk said he was neither left-nor right-wing.

 

No why should I, I quoted the article and what it actually says

 

Musk also from the article: "I voted for Mayra Flores – first time I ever voted Republican. Massive red wave in 2022."

 

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Because right wing programmers are too stupid to code AI?

I'm not sure what point you're making. 

 

What does your bitterness have to do with an AI being programmed to be racist?

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

I'm not sure what point you're making. 

 

What does your bitterness have to do with an AI being programmed to be racist?

You implied that AI was lefty because left wing programmers. AI is lefty because it can't knowingly lie.

Edited August 20, 2023 by ozimoron

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

I assume this is you admitting that the article doesn't actually support what you said, and clearly shows that Musk said he was neither left-nor right-wing.

 

No why should I, I quoted the article and what it actually says

 

Musk also from the article: "I voted for Mayra Flores – first time I ever voted Republican. Massive red wave in 2022."

Well, you haven't managed to quote anything from the article where Musk says that he is right-wing, while I have quoted him saying that he is neither left- nor right-wing.

 

Are you going to quote something showing Musk stating that he is right-wing, as you claimed he has, or not?

[ozimoron]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

Well, you haven't managed to quote anything from the article where Musk says that he is right-wing, while I have quoted him saying that he is neither left- nor right-wing.

 

Are you going to quote something showing Musk stating that he is right-wing, as you claimed he has, or not?

Do you need to go outside and look to see if the sun is up at noon?

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

You implied that AI was lefty because left wing programmers. AI is lefty because it can't knowingly lie.

AI has a left-wing bias because left-wing programmers have designed it to be that way.

 

It is programmed not to say something that is true, where the truth says something that the left-wing programmers don't want it to say.

[youreavinalaff]

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

You implied that AI was lefty because left wing programmers. AI is lefty because it can't knowingly lie.

It still only uses information programmed into it by humans.

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Do you need to go outside and look to see if the sun is up at noon?

Did Musk say he was right-wing in the linked article or not?  That is what was claimed.

 

Remember your inane obsession with evidence?  it works both ways!

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

Well, you haven't managed to quote anything from the article where Musk says that he is right-wing, while I have quoted him saying that he is neither left- nor right-wing.

 

Are you going to quote something showing Musk stating that he is right-wing, as you claimed he has, or not?

Where did I claim Musk said it he is right wing? my quote was : "Elon seems pretty sure" 

 

From the articles I've posted so are others:

 

Elon Musk Is a Far-Right Activist

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

AI has a left-wing bias because left-wing programmers have designed it to be that way.

 

It is programmed not to say something that is true, where the truth says something that the left-wing programmers don't want it to say.

Then again, what happened to all the right wing programmers? Didn't they program it opposite? Or did they only program AI to tell the truth? Did nobody ask the right wing AI programs? Where were they when the counting was going on?

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Where did I claim Musk said it he is right wing? my quote was : "Elon seems pretty sure"

Then what did you mean by "Elon seems pretty sure"?  If not whether Elon claims to be right-wing or not?

 

Your claim is surely then: "Elon Musk believes himself to be right-wing".  You still haven't done anything to proved that.

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Then what did you mean by "Elon seems pretty sure"?  If not whether Elon claims to be right-wing or not?

 

Your claim is surely then: "Elon Musk believes himself to be right-wing".  You still haven't done anything to proved that.

Since when do I need to prove anything to you? The evidence in the articles provides all the proof needed for me and the authors along with Elon's on voting and "Red Wave" encouragement

Edited August 20, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Then again, what happened to all the right wing programmers? Didn't they program it opposite? Or did they only program AI to tell the truth? Did nobody ask the right wing AI programs? Where were they when the counting was going on?

I suppose it all comes down to the question: why were the left-wing programmers so afraid of the AI telling the truth?  Is the truth good or bad?  If the right-wing programmers are the "bad guys", and shouldn't be allowed to programme the AI, why would the truth be a causality of that?  Is the truth good or bad depending on ideology?

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Since when do I need to prove anything to you?

When you make a claim, generally you need to back it up with some evidence, otherwise you seem like you are mistaken or dishonest.

 

You tried to provide proof, so you obviously have some understating of this, but your proof was faulty, so your claim is probably going to be considered to be "unsubstituted", or just untrue.

 

It's OK.  This type of thing happens.  No one is going to hold it against you or think less of you.  It's just your claim is likely not believed.

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

I suppose it all comes down to the question: why were the left-wing programmers so afraid of the AI telling the truth?  Is the truth good or bad?  If the right-wing programmers are the "bad guys", and shouldn't be allowed to programme the AI, why would the truth be a causality of that?  Is the truth good or bad depending on ideology?

I'm just wanting you to explain how AI has a left wing bias is a way that makes any sense. The fact is that there are as many right wing programmers (I'm being generous) as left wing programmers so why does AI have a left wing bias? The single plausible reason is that AI is limited to the truth.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

When you make a claim, generally you need to back it up with some evidence, otherwise you seem like you are mistaken or dishonest.

 

You tried to provide proof, so you obviously have some understating of this, but your proof was faulty, so your claim is probably going to be considered to be "unsubstituted", or just untrue.

 

It's OK.  This type of thing happens.  No one is going to hold it against you or think less of you.  It's just your claim is likely not believed.

I made a statement and backed it up with plenty of credible evidence that you refuse to acknowledge. Head stuck in sand I cannot help with.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

I'm just wanting you to explain how AI has a left wing bias is a way that makes any sense. The fact is that there are as many right wing programmers (I'm being generous) as left wing programmers so why does AI have a left wing bias? The single plausible reason is that AI is limited to the truth.

Sounds plausible indeed to me, hopefully those conspiracy theories won't flourish on there.