we all know that thais only give us the time of day if we are paying.

They couldnt care less about us if we arent.

No money, no honey i believe is the popular phrase.

 

How does this make you feel at a deep level?

are you comfortable with it?

 

Do thais also treat each other the same way?

do friendships here revolve solely on materialism? 

 

I know in the west friends are mostly made in our youth, when we all had nothing and came up together.

Here it seems it doesnt work that way.

You never see hi so mixing with lo so etc

seems everything is based on how much money you have in the bank.

Which is strange because there are way more poor people in Thailand than there are rich.

I guess maybe you gotta get out to the villages to meet the genuine Thais, right?

 

I stopped paying for thai people a long time ago.

Because whenever I did I never got any extra respect or whatever.

it was just like it was expected cos i was a foreigner.

 

Now I mostly get the Thais to foot the bill and use the old adage 'well im a guest here so...' 

and do you know what, it works surprisingly well! ???? 

Just now, zhounan said:

If they are comfortable being treated as a tool to empty my balls, why not?

haha! Never thought of it like that mate ???? 

That’s right bob!

We are guests that were invited in with an invitation (visa), not party crashers. The host is expected to pay!

I see it as a moral issue, not a Me Me Me one.

 

Despite my limited resources, I have far more available money than any of my large Khmer peasant family will ever have. Within reason I'm happy to help out, tilting however toward the hard workers rather than the lazy good-for-very-littles.

4 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

The host is expected to pay!

my sentiments exactly!

 

They should feel grateful that i am willing to spend my time here.

21 minutes ago, bob smith said:

we all know that thais only give us the time of day if we are paying.

They couldnt care less about us if we arent.

I fixed it for you - sorry, you have to fix your spelling yourself.

 

I know that thais only give me the time of day if I pay.

They couldnt care less about me [...].

 

After reading a couple of your posts I am not surprised at all.

Slippery slope of thought there - don't turn into one of them that doesn't tip, and then gives you a lecture about they respect you less for tipping, dime a dozen from phrom phong to nana..

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I fixed it for you - sorry, you have to fix your spelling yourself.

 

I know that thais only give me the time of day if I pay.

They couldnt care less about me [...].

 

After reading a couple of your posts I am not surprised at all.

you never foot the bill, farang?

31 minutes ago, zhounan said:

If they are comfortable being treated as a tool to empty my balls, why not?

very sad

39 minutes ago, bob smith said:

we all know that thais only give us the time of day if we are paying.

They couldnt care less about us if we arent.

No money, no honey i believe is the popular phrase.

 

How does this make you feel at a deep level?

are you comfortable with it?

 

Do thais also treat each other the same way?

do friendships here revolve solely on materialism? 

 

I know in the west friends are mostly made in our youth, when we all had nothing and came up together.

Here it seems it doesnt work that way.

You never see hi so mixing with lo so etc

seems everything is based on how much money you have in the bank.

Which is strange because there are way more poor people in Thailand than there are rich.

I guess maybe you gotta get out to the villages to meet the genuine Thais, right?

 

I stopped paying for thai people a long time ago.

Because whenever I did I never got any extra respect or whatever.

it was just like it was expected cos i was a foreigner.

 

Now I mostly get the Thais to foot the bill and use the old adage 'well im a guest here so...' 

and do you know what, it works surprisingly well! ???? 

I'm not really sure why you are even in Thailand. All your posts are VERY negative towards Thais. 
 

1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said:

I'm not really sure why you are even in Thailand. All your posts are VERY negative towards Thais. 
 

if my subjective truth through personal experience is negative then so be it! I can't help that, can I?

2 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

I'm not really sure why you are even in Thailand. All your posts are VERY negative towards Thais. 
 

He seems to live and associate with the lowest form of Thai society. He has no idea of the real Thailand. 

1 minute ago, bob smith said:

if my subjective truth through personal experience is negative then so be it! I can't help that, can I?

Perhaps change your attitude, rather than trying to justify your bizarre views by seeking out similarly depressing people.

1 minute ago, bob smith said:

if my subjective truth through personal experience is negative then so be it! I can't help that, can I?

You can try improving your personality and stop judging a whole nation by the actions of only a few.

Oh, and while you're at it, you might want to expand your circle of 'friends'. Whoever you are hanging out with do not seem to be the best representation of Thailand.

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Perhaps change your attitude, rather than trying to justify your bizarre views by seeking out similarly depressing people.

How about Thais changing their attitude? Ever thought of that one? They are our hosts after all. I'm sure many foreigners have had similar experiences, especially in the tourist areas.

 

And before you say 'well dont go to the tourist areas then' where do you think they will go for a holiday? Mukdahan? 

 

Thailand is like a food market. You never know which color plastic chair you will get

Just now, bob smith said:

How about Thais changing their attitude? Ever thought of that one? 

 

You can't change others, acceptance is needed if you want to live happily here.

 Throw away those ego masks you are wearing. I guarantee if you go to a temple every morning, talk to the monks and meditate for 30 minutes, you will feel better than starting Thai bashing topics. 

Also, write down 10 things in a  Gratitude journal every day.

9 minutes ago, bob smith said:

They are our hosts after all. I'm sure many foreigners have had similar experiences, especially in the tourist areas.

They are not your hosts, where do you get that ridiculous idea?

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

They are not your hosts, where do you get that ridiculous idea?

hmmm.

 

maybe from here? we are constantly told we are guests in this country. dont guests usually have hosts? 

32 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I fixed it for you - sorry, you have to fix your spelling yourself.

 

I know that thais only give me the time of day if I pay.

They couldnt care less about me [...].

 

After reading a couple of your posts I am not surprised at all.

Exactly this...   

 

It's of no surprise at all after reading bob smiths posting history that he is treated with a level disregard many of us would object to. 

 

Of course, the fundamentally flawed measure of bob's posts are in his projection that everyone else is treated as poorly as he is.

 

He [bob] has not yet reached the understanding that he is the victim of his own environment, one he creates with his attitude, his location, those with whom he integrates and surrounds himself. 

 

 

The ATM can always find a new G/f.

 

Cannot say that I have ever had issues with anyone that has never worked in a bar, but then my advice is do not marry a bargirl, enjoy them, get it out of your system and then marry someone with less understanding of ceilings

21 minutes ago, bob smith said:

if my subjective truth through personal experience is negative then so be it! I can't help that, can I?

I have lived here, with my GF for 13 years and have never been treated like you say.

Maybe you could help yourself, and stop some of the criticism you get by changing that silly avatar photo, Albert! 555

3 minutes ago, bob smith said:

hmmm.

 

maybe from here? we are constantly told we are guests in this country. dont guests usually have hosts? 

Then you are daft enough to believe what other fools of similarly flawed mindset are writing. 

 

We are not guests, here, Thai's are not hosts.... The are just other people who are nationals of a country in which many of us reside as foreigners or visit as tourists. 

 

This idea that we are 'guests' and should be treated as such is utterly mindless. 

 

As in an nation, residents generally treat each other with an equal indifference, there is no reason we should be afforded anything other than this - We (as foreigners here) are generally treated by Thai's exactly as they treat others who are outside of their primary circles.

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

He [bob] has not yet reached the understanding that he is the victim of his own environment, one he creates with his attitude, his location, those with whom he integrates and surrounds himself. 

Indeed. 

Just now, KannikaP said:

I have lived here, with my GF for 13 years and have never been treated like you say.

Maybe you could help yourself, and stop some of the criticism you get by changing that silly avatar photo, Albert! 555

Or change it to Albert Tatlock

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Or change it to Albert Tatlock

no, that's even worse.

Now what other famous Albert's can we think of?

Who or what is a Prince Albert? 555

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

IF you are serious in your thoughts expressed on this thread, the only thing you can do is start looking inwards, rather than lay the blame of this negativity at everyone else around you. 

We are here to help you Bob. Changing within is much harder than lashing out. 

Have you ever prayed/chanted? I find this, along with the Gratitude journal massively helpful in directing my attitude. 

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

bob.... sadly, you are the polar opposite of a 'ray of shining positivity'... 

 

I'm quite sure that virtually every negative interaction you have with a Thai is triggered or initiated by your attitude. 

 

Of course, there are those out there who can upset us, but the mistake is in tarring all Thai's with the same brush because we have encountered someone who has annoyed or irritated us.

 

Normal people do not assume the next person is the same as the last. 

 

Normal people do not let one negative encounter 'turn the whole world black'.

 

 

IF you are serious in your thoughts expressed on this thread, the only thing you can do is start looking inwards, rather than lay the blame of this negativity at everyone else around you. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brilliantly put Richard. But in Bob's case, there's nowt like a good moan a few times a day.

28 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

You can try improving your personality and stop judging a whole nation by the actions of only a few.

Oh, and while you're at it, you might want to expand your circle of 'friends'. Whoever you are hanging out with do not seem to be the best representation of Thailand.

He has no circle of friends

My GF and I joke about me as the ATM, I guess that means we are both comfortable with the term.

Every Thai I meet for the first time cracks up when they ask for my name, and I reply ATM.

Having said that, ATM's do have withdrawal limits. So do I.