Up to a totalitarian world

[peter zwart]

The European Union's Digital Services Act (DSA) has officially gone into effect. Starting on August 25th, 2023, tech giants like Google, Facebook, Amazon, and more must comply with sweeping legislation that holds online platforms legally accountable for the content posted to them. With other words, the governments going to force you to believe only what they want you to believe. Its not a conspiracy thought anymore. 

[Furioso]

Good, I hope this convinces people to completely stop using their crap. 

[peter zwart]

  On 8/27/2023 at 6:45 AM, Furioso said:

Good, I hope this convinces people to completely stop using their crap. 

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And let the governments only using their crap?????? 

[Chomper Higgot]

Less scare mongering more facts:

 

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/digital-services-act-package

[peter zwart]

  On 8/27/2023 at 6:49 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Less scare mongering more facts:

 

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/digital-services-act-package

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Yep, that is how they sell it to you.

[Tropicalevo]

  On 8/27/2023 at 6:46 AM, peter zwart said:

And let the governments only using their crap?????? 

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I prefer to obtain information from professionals.

These social media leeches allow information from any Tom, Harry and Dick (head).

[mikebike]

  On 8/27/2023 at 6:46 AM, peter zwart said:

And let the governments only using their crap?????? 

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Are you unaware that there are other sources of news than social media sites? In fact, if social media sites ARE your main source of news, I'd postulate you do not understand what journalism is. 

[Lacessit]

  On 8/27/2023 at 7:03 AM, Tropicalevo said:

I prefer to obtain information from professionals.

These social media leeches allow information from any Tom, Harry and Dick (head).

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Give me a teleprompter, desk and a bookshelf behind me, I'll take a shot at convincing people rat turd extracts are a cancer cure.

[FritsSikkink]

  On 8/27/2023 at 6:46 AM, peter zwart said:

And let the governments only using their crap?????? 

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What part do you think is wrong to forbid:

 

" sharing of images depicting child sexual abuse, the unlawful non-consensual sharing of private images, online stalking, the sale of non-compliant or counterfeit products, the sale of products or the provision of services in infringement of consumer protection law, the non-authorised use of copyright protected material, the illegal offer of accommodation services or the illegal sale of live animals." ?

 

EUR-Lex - 32022R2065 - EN - EUR-Lex (europa.eu)

[BritManToo]

  On 8/27/2023 at 7:19 AM, mikebike said:

Are you unaware that there are other sources of news than social media sites? In fact, if social media sites ARE your main source of news, I'd postulate you do not understand what journalism is. 

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As someone who had a press card, I'd say journalism was to toe the government line.

At least in the UK, where if you didn't co-operate, you didn't get work.

[mikebike]

  On 8/27/2023 at 9:26 AM, BritManToo said:

As someone who had a press card, I'd say journalism was to toe the government line.

At least in the UK, where if you didn't co-operate, you didn't get work.

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Yes, there are plenty of toady journalists out there protecting their livelihood over true journalism. But are you seriously trying to say you have never read any UK journalism which runs contrary to the govt line? To that I have to give a hardy laugh ????????????

[300sd]

  On 8/27/2023 at 6:49 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Less scare mongering more facts:

 

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/digital-services-act-package

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Yes I love it when the governments are so caring and want to protect us.

[Sigmund]

Europe,  America or China lined up,  are as bullying as the other. With obvious  differences here and there none is any better one from the other at the end of the day.

[connda]

  On 8/27/2023 at 6:44 AM, peter zwart said:

The European Union's Digital Services Act (DSA) has officially gone into effect. Starting on August 25th, 2023, tech giants like Google, Facebook, Amazon, and more must comply with sweeping legislation that holds online platforms legally accountable for the content posted to them. With other words, the governments going to force you to believe only what they want you to believe. Its not a conspiracy thought anymore. 

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A few people here may agree with you, but from my experience the majority of members here don't want to debate global totalitarianism, and they would rather kick back, relax, and enjoy their lives here in the LOS.  You're most likely to simply be mocked.  Just saying... 

[VinnieK]

  On 8/27/2023 at 7:03 AM, Tropicalevo said:

I prefer to obtain information from professionals.

These social media leeches allow information from any Tom, Harry and Dick (head).

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Yeah.. professionals (lmao) toe the line that the owner prescribes, who the last thing he wants is to fall foul of the gooberment

[Middle Aged Grouch]

Just like the dollar, Europe and the Union are dommed under their current shape. Europe is going down as we are becomming far to docile and patsy with the USA. Many EU nations are already going showing hostility against the will of Washington via Bruxelles !... and are shifting to far right nationalist governance. European people are slowly understanding that the leaders of the Union in Bruxelles are mainly defending American interests,  that are not the same interests of the european people.

[KannikaP]

  On 8/27/2023 at 10:02 AM, connda said:

A few people here may agree with you, but from my experience the majority of members here don't want to debate global totalitarianism, and they would rather kick back, relax, and enjoy their lives here in the LOS.  You're most likely to simply be mocked.  Just saying... 

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Best answer yet. Who is the next Thai PM.........couldn't give a monkey's. 

[KhunLA]

  On 8/27/2023 at 6:44 AM, peter zwart said:

The European Union's Digital Services Act (DSA) has officially gone into effect. Starting on August 25th, 2023, tech giants like Google, Facebook, Amazon, and more must comply with sweeping legislation that holds online platforms legally accountable for the content posted to them. With other words, the governments going to force you to believe only what they want you to believe. Its not a conspiracy thought anymore. 

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What's changed, as it's been like that since I was a teenager and paid attention to the propaganda.

 

Only thing surprising is, taking 50 yrs for some people to realize it.

 

'Zappa & M of I' ... 1973, me, graduating High School that year.  Nothing has changed:

 

[Ben Zioner]

  On 8/27/2023 at 6:46 AM, peter zwart said:

And let the governments only using their crap?????? 

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Well, there were democracies some 200 years before internet. And an obvious decline of democratic values in the last 30 years.

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 8/27/2023 at 9:30 AM, 300sd said:

Yes I love it when the governments are so caring and want to protect us.

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Let’s leave it to the corporate world to collect and sell our personal data, criminals to act as they wish on line and those engaged in obscene crimes online continue to do so.

 

If you don’t like your government you can vote them out of power, corporations, online criminals and perverts are not subject to your consent.