Heartbroken British mother accuses Thai officials of ‘lies’ in son’s alleged suicide in Thailand

[GroveHillWanderer]

41 minutes ago, Spock said:

Just about impossible to kill yourself from an overdose of prescription medicines. Who is going to choose poison as a means of ending it all given how painful that is too? If he died of self inflicted gunshot wounds, why would the family question that and why do it in a car park rather than a hotel? I don't blame the mother for questioning the police verdict. 

It's definitely not impossible to kill yourself with a drugs overdose, whether that be of prescription medicine* or illegal drugs - it's one of the most common methods of suicide. See below.

 

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Self-poisoning is among the most common means used by suicidal individuals to attempt suicide, and in females is the leading mechanism used to commit suicide.

Self poisoning

 

And the question I was addressing wasn't whether this person committed suicide and/or how he did it, it was whether committing suicide in a car park is possible. Which it most certainly is.

 

*In fact, one of the most common prescription medicines used to commit suicide is paracetamol. 

 

Use of paracetamol (acetaminophen) for suicide and nonfatal poisoning

Edited September 22, 2023 by GroveHillWanderer

[roo860]

1 hour ago, Goat said:

Common to see reports in the British press from Brits at home blaming Thais for their on self inflicted problems.

Next will be a GOfundme.

Your wish has been granted, gotta get your anti British comment in, even if it has resulted in a death.

 

[JimTripper]

Should be pretty easy to compare a sample of the note handwriting with an earlier sample somewhere.

[bignok]

Most mums are clueless. Even close mates might not know about depression. Its not spoken about much. Lots of people kill themselves.

 

What are the UK police going to do? The mum needs therapy for her own problems which may have contributed to her Adult son being depressed. Id say a lot of depression is linked to having morons in the family.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, bignok said:

Most mums are clueless. Even close mates might not know about depression. Its not spoken about much. Lots of people kill themselves.

 

What are the UK police going to do? The mum needs therapy for her own problems which may have contributed to her Adult son being depressed. Id say a lot of depression is linked to having morons in the family.

Any of your Family members been a bit gloomy recently ?

[bignok]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

How do you know that he was "having the time of his life" ?

Moving from town to town and staying alone in hotels can be a sad lonely experience 

Did he have a gf? Or many women?  I could spend 10 years doing that if no visa or money issues. All you need is a gf, money and no visa hassles.

 

 

[bignok]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Any of your Family members been a bit gloomy recently ?

There is a few nuts i dont talk to anymore. Just not worth it.

Edited September 22, 2023 by bignok

[bignok]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

How do you know that he was "having the time of his life" ?

Moving from town to town and staying alone in hotels can be a sad lonely experience 

If people hated staying in hotels then why do millions go on holidays? They clean the room. The give you free water. A bed, tv, fridge and bathroom. 7/11 normally within 800m.

 

Compared to "normal" living id say hotel life is grand.

[jesimps]

4 hours ago, VinnieK said:

She received letters in Thai?????‍♂️????‍♂️

Good grief.

Which would make me suspicious being that his native language was English and he was on holiday and only been in Thailand "a number of months".

[bignok]

3 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

at 24 bucko he is very far from still being a child. my old man is 94 and i am nearing 60. i doubt anyone considers me a child. 

I know a few in the 70s still like kids. 94 is good. You have a strong family. Good luck.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, jesimps said:

Which would make me suspicious being that his native language was English and he was on holiday and only been in Thailand "a number of months".

???? He didn't write the letters , they were letters from the RTP informing her of her Sons death 

[bignok]

4 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Because if this person did commit suicide and did so in a car park, (and if the body had not been moved) then that's where the body would be found.

Amazing people ask these dumb questions.

[bignok]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

???? He didn't write the letters , they were letters from the RTP informing her of her Sons death 

Probably dated using Buddhism calender hence the crazy mum couldnt understand.

[owl sees all]

The family is trying to get the lad's body flown to England.

 

A 'Go Fund Me' has raised over £10k

[bignok]

2 hours ago, Spock said:

Wouldn't you prefer to do any of these in your hotel room as your final act in life? Also if serious about suiciding, you're not going to do it in a place where people might find you and call for medical assistance. 

Why would a suicidal person act rationally? Why would a hotel be so great?  Dying alone in hotel is better than dying outside? Nope. Ilogical post.

[bignok]

4 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

Exactly! Take Chester Bennington for example. 6 days before he hung himself he did carpool karaoke with James Cordon. I've seen that episode, he seemed totally normal, was joking around in a seemingly good mood., habing a good time. His wife released a family video of him and his kids playing a game that was shot one day before he killed himself, and again no indicators of what was about to happen whatsoever. Depression is a massive b..ch! 

He had a history of drug and alcohol abuse.

[Moonlover]

2 hours ago, Spock said:

I was questioning it because I did not know he was at the foot of a high building. Having said that, I would question the many reported suicides of foreigners jumping from high buildings. It's not easy to do and if he had hopped across to Cambodia could have found a much more pleasant way to finish off his life. 

Such a pity you weren't around to give him some of your worldly advise isn't it.

 

Jesus, just how pathetic can comments on this forum get?

 

Edited September 22, 2023 by Moonlover

[itsari]

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

While it heart breaking for any parents to loose a child, on what evidence does the mother base her allegation and accusations against the RTP?

Trust of the Thai police maybe?

[bignok]

4 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, and Robin Williams is another example of someone who put his depression aside by being an excellent comedian, all the while hurting. My best friend took his life back in 1987, before much was known about treatments and medications, and he had a very good life if you looked at it from the outside. Good wife, house, car, job, hobbies, friends, good family, and class clown, which was his way of putting his own hurt out, along with sleeping during the day a lot.

Robin had a chronic disease and was fairly old. He lived a good life. A 24yo has his life ahead.

[itsari]

5 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

 

How can one travel a number of months and hold a "good graduate job"?  

Money from parents perhaps?

[bignok]

2 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Such a pity you weren't around to give him some of your worldly advise isn't it.

 

Jesus, just how pathetic can comments on this forum get!

If i was living with some of the people here id jump to get away from them

[bignok]

4 months of travel only costs 180,000 to 240,000 baht. 

[richard_smith237]

Just now, bignok said:

If i was living with some of the people here id jump to get away from them

I think you’re about to receive a load of messages from ppl volunteering to be a house mate !!!  

[bignok]

2 hours ago, Spock said:

I was questioning it because I did not know he was at the foot of a high building. Having said that, I would question the many reported suicides of foreigners jumping from high buildings. It's not easy to do and if he had hopped across to Cambodia could have found a much more pleasant way to finish off his life. 

What happens in Cambodia?

[bignok]

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I think you’re about to receive a load of messages from ppl volunteering to be a house mate !!!  

So you wish death on people?

[newbee2022]

3 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

at 24 bucko he is very far from still being a child. my old man is 94 and i am nearing 60. i doubt anyone considers me a child. 

Of course you are always his child. And it's not a question who is more childish.

[Cabradelmar]

Death of a child is a tough pill to swallow. Especially from suicide.

[retarius]

The mother is totally wrong. Thai officials never, ever lie. They only;y ever tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Truth telling is ingrained in Thai officials.

[JensenZ]

5 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That would depend on the circumstances of his suicide, don't you think?

I can't think of any circumstances where a person would suicide in a carpark unless he was in his own car or a rental. The story is his body was found in a carpark, not in a car. The only likely scenario is his body was dumped there. A very thorough investigation is required, and the mother is doing what any parent would do in this situation.

 

The RTP don't care - they want this over and done with quickly. The last thing they want is a story about a young tourist being murdered on the streets of Bangkok getting out.

Edited September 22, 2023 by JensenZ

[bignok]

7 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

I can't think of any circumstances where a person would suicide in a carpark unless he was in his own car or a rental. The story is his body was found in a carpark, not in a car. The only likely scenario is his body was dumped there. A very thorough investigation is required, and the mother is doing what any parent would do in this situation.

 

The RTP don't care - they want this over and done with quickly. The last thing they want is a story about a young tourist being murdered on the streets of Bangkok getting out.

Then your mind is limited. Jump off a building. Drug overdose. Nothing special about car parks.

 

Suicides happen everyday. Nothing unique here.