Diabetes

[bendejo]

Aside from vinegar another one that is supposed to lower blood glucose is cinnamon.  But it has to be Ceylon cinnamon.  A little searching on the web will explain why -- it is the one that smells/tastes like Dentyne chewing gum, the other smells like Cinnabon, that's how I tell them apart.  I'm not in LOS now, so can't say anything about availability or type there.  I use this one, a pound lasts about a year, a teaspoon in the morning cereal.

https://www.amazon.com/Organic-Ceylon-Cinnamon-Powder-Resealable/dp/B07MHX96HW/

 

Something that hasn't come up yet in this thread is fiber.  Ya gotta have fiber.

OP: good job having an all fruit meal every day, but adding some protein (like nuts) makes it a proper meal. 

For me leafy greens works wonders, my fasting read drops even after scarfing down a bag of potato chips.

 

[rwill]

I had been taking 1000mg of Metformin a day for years and my A1C was in the 6.2 range.

I started doing intermittent fasting along with reducing carbs and sugar in my diet.  Not a strict keto diet.  Stopped eating bread, rice, potatoes.  But occasionally eat very small amounts of rice or some noodles.  I also stopped taking any medications.

My A1C is now 5.4 and cholesterol levels are normal.

[Classic Ray]

I have had a fatty liver for over twenty years and was diagnosed with type 2 over 15 years ago. 
 

I take metformin and now a cocktail of others prescribed by my specialist to rectify kidney and liver blood levels. Have some side effects so I have to return to see him.

 

Main danger is things like retinopathy which can blind you, and bad circulation which can lead to amputation. 
 

Make sure you get regularly tested for these and please see a doctor for metformin etc.

[OneMoreFarang]

I have diabetes and the doctor prescribed oral medications.

If I don’t take the medicine, then I feel more or less tired after meals. With medication not so tired.
Personally, I wouldn’t necessarily take medication to change any values which the doctor uses for his diagnosis. But I take it to feel better.

[Brock]

I am diabetic, have been for about 20 years. The goal my Doc set was to be below 7.0, so 6.9 is OK.. 

Watch your diet, and do what exercises you can. You may not be able to walk far but you should be able to use a rowing machine, or even a skiing machine while seated. They will help improve cardio health..  If your sugar levels were up around 10 all the time then you could be in trouble.

[Skeptic7]

Try eating a more plant-based whole foods diet and eliminate or cut back on dairy and "junk food".  

[shackleton]

I have been Diabetic 2 for about over 35 years 

Take my medication watch what I eat still enjoy a beer ???? 

Plus do the walking exercise daily 

It's all about moderation enjoy your life 

[TigerandDog]

11 hours ago, still kicking said:

Well, I do not drink any soft drinks at all no sweets since I hate them, I only have some red wine in the evening don't eat a lot only 2 meals a day and one of them is fruit, exorcize is out of a question since I had 2 broken ankles and find it difficult to walk at all 

you should check out these videos on YouTube about Arthur Boorman and then check out DDP Yoga. They have a program called Chair to Standing where ALL the exercises are done seated.

 

I'm 73 and at the beginning of this year I was struggling big time with screwed up knees, ankles, shoulders and a pinched sciatic nerve that just wouldn't release despite all the treatments and  I had limited mobility & flexibility. In April I saw Arthur's video and thought if he can improve his health that much, and he was in a far worse situation physically than I was, then I can do this.  So in April I started doing the Chair to Standing program and even after 4 weeks the improvements were quite noticeable. I've now moved on to the next program, Standing with Chair and the results thus far are quite amazing. My flexibility now, IMHO, is better than when I was 40. still some shoulder pain, but mainly when trying to do pushups. No more ankle pain, no more pinched sciatic nerve, and knee pain reduced from a 9 to a 1 AND my mobility is almost back to where it was when I was much younger.

 

There are so many stories of people with weight issues, diabetes and physical issues (some videos are on YouTube or you can see their stories on the DDPY Facebook page. It doesn't matter if you say you can or you can't you're right. Give it a try. You got this.

 

 

 

 

 

[Furioso]

5 hours ago, rwill said:

I had been taking 1000mg of Metformin a day for years and my A1C was in the 6.2 range.

I started doing intermittent fasting along with reducing carbs and sugar in my diet.  Not a strict keto diet.  Stopped eating bread, rice, potatoes.  But occasionally eat very small amounts of rice or some noodles.  I also stopped taking any medications.

My A1C is now 5.4 and cholesterol levels are normal.

Wow, 5.4 is a HUGE improvement. This just proves that lifestyle changes can have a drastic impact on health.

 

I had a problem with a heavy heartbeat for over 15 years. Doctors told me I was fine, they didn't fully understand my problem. Finally, I did a 16/8 Intermittent Fasting for exactly 30 days. It worked, I haven't had any issue with heavy heartbeat since. My suspicion is I had a problem with an overactive vagus nerve and the IF calmed it down.

 

Congrats on your success!

[bendejo]

Taking a shot of vinegar right before a meal, isn't that rough on the taste buds?

 

[Stevemercer]

As Dr Sheryl says 'Metformin is dirt cheap and has an excellent safety profile'. 

 

There is some evidence that Metformin is a 'wonder drug' that may have the potential to prolong life, not just for mild diabetics. It might be worthwhile researching a bit more to see if it might benefit you in the long term.

 

If your grandfather lived to be over 100, you might have good genetics. It would be good to do everything in your power now so as to improve your quality of life in the future. Taking Metformin, under a doctor's supervision, would be something that is cheap, easy and effective.

[Sheryl]

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[chrischronic]

I have been diabetic since I was 16. I suggest taking some cinnamon in the morning and night. You can look up its benefits for type 2 and pre-diabetes with a quick search. It lowers my blood sugar greatly and is proven effective in many studies . It really does work for me.

[moogradod]

18 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Bananas are (relatively) high in sugar. Better would be an apple and berries of all kinds (blueberries particularly good, also strawberries). Avocados & kiwi fruit are good.

Bananas are high although they do not taste too sweet and I would agree on strawberries - they pose no prob. I would be careful with blueberries - if I eat 0.5 kg of this stuff I need a hearty portion of insulin to get my bloodsugar level down again. I am a diabetic type 2. They seem to contain a large portion of sugar or some other element that elevates your sugar level. The problem is that I love blueberries and the Big C Extra here does import blueberries from Peru that are really exeptional which I cannot resist.

[scubascuba3]

9 minutes ago, moogradod said:

Bananas are high although they do not taste too sweet and I would agree on strawberries - they pose no prob. I would be careful with blueberries - if I eat 0.5 kg of this stuff I need a hearty portion of insulin to get my bloodsugar level down again. I am a diabetic type 2. They seem to contain a large portion of sugar or some other element that elevates your sugar level. The problem is that I love blueberries and the Big C Extra here does import blueberries from Peru that are really exeptional which I cannot resist.

i thought type 1s and 1.5s needed insulin, not type 2s?

[Sticky Rice Balls]

maybe a VEGAN diet would be helpful towards a healthy lifestyle    :).......

[TravelerEastWest]

18 hours ago, Furioso said:

I'm very happy you don't suffer symptoms. I thought I had at least pre-diabetes awhile back and I found that one of the world's most renowed specialist on diabetes had a theory that fat accumulation in the liver and then more fat bleeding over into the pancreas is the cause of most Type-2 Diabetes. He had a great success with a trial(Newcastle University Study) that put diabetics on a calorie reduced diet where they lost a significant amount of fat over 2 months. People can be quite thin but still have a fatty liver/pancreas. You might be close to your threshold it's possible if you lost just a few pounds your numbers would be vastly improved. 

Prof Roy Taylor is  brilliant and his theory about fat and diabetes is accepted by many doctors.

[TravelerEastWest]

2 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

maybe a VEGAN diet would be helpful towards a healthy lifestyle    :).......

Agree a whole plant based diet is best has done a lot for my health...

[TravelerEastWest]

7 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

i thought type 1s and 1.5s needed insulin, not type 2s?

No there is no rule like that Type 1 for sure needs insulin and those with type 2 who have damaged their pancreas often need insulin.

[moogradod]

7 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

i thought type 1s and 1.5s needed insulin, not type 2s?

Type 1 means that the pancreas does not produce any insulin at all - therefore this type needs insulin in any case. Type 2 is different and the still existing production may be only badly affected. But if no oral medicaments help nor a change of lifestyle to encourage more insulin production, then Type 2 needs as well insulin.

[billd766]

16 hours ago, Sheryl said:

My point was that ignoring diabetes can lead to severe pain that affects the quality of life. It was in response to poor advice from a poster saying no need to treat diabetes "until you have symptoms". Seriously wrong advice. 

Sadly there are many keyboard doctors on this forum who are only to willing to give their "advice".

 

Mostly the advice they give is of little use, but they swarm everywhere an almost any topic, and their advice is as useful as a bicycle is to a fish.

 

Your advice I take seriously, the rest, not so much or I simply ignore it.

[Sticky Rice Balls]

26 minutes ago, TravelerEastWest said:

Agree a whole plant based diet is best has done a lot for my health...

I mean this for the OP as he seems to be terrified of a vegan girl from perth.... ????

[scubascuba3]

5 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Sadly there are many keyboard doctors on this forum who are only to willing to give their "advice".

 

Mostly the advice they give is of little use, but they swarm everywhere an almost any topic, and their advice is as useful as a bicycle is to a fish.

 

Your advice I take seriously, the rest, not so much or I simply ignore it.

maybe we see you as one of those people you despise 

[Thailand J]

Ask your doctor about Metformin.

[billd766]

On 10/2/2023 at 1:57 AM, still kicking said:

So, I have been diagnosed with Diabetes 2 about 10 years ago never taking any medication for it, went for a test last week because of some different matters, my test was 6.9 Yes, I know it was in the morning nighttime might be higher so should I worry?

Several months ago I was concerned about diabetes and bought an Accu Chek blood sugar tester through Lazada for 1,130 baht. It came complete with the test strips and the 'prickers'.

 

I tested my blood sugar for a week to get an average and now I test every Monday morning.

 

I wrote a little excel spreadsheet to record the results.

 

The first 7 results were 

mg/dl    mmol/L

105          5.8
107          5.9
104          5.8
108          6.0
100          5.6
108          6.0
103          5.7

 

The average results for the months were

                                        mg/dl   mmol/L

Average for June           105.75    5.9
Average for July             110.4      6.1
Average for August         126       5.8
Average for September   102.5   5.7

 

The link for the results to be converted is here

 

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blood-sugar-converter.html

 

Hopefully I have managed to upload my blood sugar results spreadsheet if anybody wants it.

 

 

Blood sugar results.xlsx

[Sheryl]

56 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

i thought type 1s and 1.5s needed insulin, not type 2s?

There is no type 1.5

 

All type 1 diabetics need insulin by definition.

 

Some - -a minority -- of Type 2 diabetes do as well.

[BusyB]

18 hours ago, still kicking said:

Sheryl, I don't think I am worried about my days I have left I am 76 now my sister is 84 my mother died at 89 my grandfather lived to about 113

Living the last 5 or 10 without feet or eyes would kinda shrink your quality of life pal. All 'cos you didn't want to go to the doctor and ask someone whose job and career it is to treat people like you (and me) every day for decades.

 

Course you could always try Google, or Qanon. But that doesn't appeal to me. I prefer people who know what they're talking about and have years of experience and practice.

Edited October 3, 2023 by BusyB

[BusyB]

14 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

There is no type 1.5

 

All type 1 diabetics need insulin by definition.

 

Some - -a minority -- of Type 2 diabetes do as well.

Right. As I've understood it there's plenty of the stuff around normally. It just can't transport the sugar into the cells, resulting in high blood sugar levels. Metformin reduces the cell resistance and the insulin can do its job.

[billd766]

On 10/2/2023 at 1:57 AM, still kicking said:

So, I have been diagnosed with Diabetes 2 about 10 years ago never taking any medication for it, went for a test last week because of some different matters, my test was 6.9 Yes, I know it was in the morning nighttime might be higher so should I worry?

My kneecaps are shot to crap and for exercises I have an epicycling machine which is very old but the newer ones can be bought online.

 

Basically it is a bike that goes nowhere but your knees and ankles don't get pounded into oblivion, and you can stop at any time.

 

Here is the link and there are plenty more models out there.

 

฿2,080.00
฿8,900.00 -77%

 

I have no idea how good it is and no connection to the company or Lazada.

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/-i279092986-s450460550.html?from_gmc=1&exlaz=d_1:mm_150050845_51350205_2010350205::12:19668221003!!!!!c!!450460550!122262988&gclid=CjwKCAjw9-6oBhBaEiwAHv1QvAuI5_2vnYO09kZv2-ouaScPveyMKD1KtxjSyMeumUimSs7jq2asLhoC8SUQAvD_BwE

 

This model details

 

Can carry a maximum weight of 150 kg.

Belt system spins and is quiet. Easier to maintain

LCD screen with complete functions, showing speed, distance, time, calories.

Can adjust the stiffness level to many levels.

The handlebars and seat are adjustable high-low, in-out, supporting every user's body shape.

Belt system

Wheel weight 8 kg.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=epicycle+exercise+cycle&sca_esv=570303733&sxsrf=AM9HkKkt84ITj3i8rYeTa3IAIO-caVCBvQ%3A1696326634307&ei=6uMbZfStEoOw4-EPtJWe6Ac&oq=epicycle+exercis&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiEGVwaWN5Y2xlIGV4ZXJjaXMqAggDMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKMgcQIRigARgKSIeEAVC3FljMVnACeAGQAQCYAaoBoAGuCKoBAzQuNbgBAcgBAPgBAcICChAAGEcY1gQYsAPCAgoQABiKBRiwAxhDwgIOEAAY5AIY1gQYsAPYAQHCAhAQLhiKBRjIAxiwAxhD2AECwgIKEAAYgAQYFBiHAsICBRAuGIAEwgIFEAAYgATCAgsQLhiABBjHARivAcICBxAAGIAEGArCAggQABgWGB4YD8ICCxAAGBYYHhgPGPEEwgIGEAAYFhgewgIIEAAYFhgeGArCAggQABiKBRiGA8ICBRAhGKAB4gMEGAAgQYgGAZAGE7oGBggBEAEYCboGBggCEAEYCA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

epicycle machine.webp

Edited October 3, 2023 by billd766
added a picture

[billd766]

45 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

maybe we see you as one of those people you despise 

Then good for you.

 

OTOH I am 79 and have a few medical problems of my own and wish to help other sufferers.

 

How come I never see any useful posts from you, mr perfect?