rabas Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, rabas said: Been reported on propaganda social media for a few days now. All fake images. I feel well that you don't have a clue. There have been many fake accusations of the IDF using white phosphorus, most are videos and images from the Ukraine war. These have been posted on social media since almost the first day. There is now a claim from Human Rights Watch who says they confirmed a video of one use in Gaza with 2 or 3 artillery shells, on a seaside location. The announcement comes from the Beirut office. The images are clear but the video elusive. LINK Israel has denied the HRC claim. LINK Edit: the HRW's two videos come from X social media. Link to HRW analysis page. Such claims need verification in war time. Edited October 13, 2023 by rabas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, rabas said: There have been many fake accusations of the IDF using white phosphorus, most are videos and images from the Ukraine war. These have been posted on social media since almost the first day. There is now a claim from Human Rights Watch who says they confirmed a video of one use in Gaza with 2 or 3 artillery shells, on a seaside location. The announcement comes from the Beirut office. The images are clear but the video elusive. LINK Israel has denied the HRC claim. LINK Edit: the HRW's two videos come from X social media. Link to HRW analysis page. Such claims need verification in war time. I have seen an image of Israeli use of white phosphorus that seems reasonably real. But, it's clearly for use for illumination or marking a target. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Neeranam said: There were WMD in Iraq, nothing to do with oil! WTF are you talking about? Nobody believes that anymore. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Elkski said: Searching my true feelings I dont seem to attach different significance to any nationality when counting dead bodies or hostages. Including from my country or state. Why would you? They are all equal human beings to me What's your opinion on the Hamas acts of terror in Israel? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thorgal Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: What's your opinion on the Hamas acts of terror in Israel? How many Hamas militants participated in the assaults and hostage operations? 1.000? Bringing in an Aircraft carrier with its supporting vessels is quite a lot for 1.000 flip flop militants. A second US Aircraft carrier is on it's way too. https://abc7news.com/israel-palestine-conflict-five-things-to-know-hamas-war-attacks-gaza-strip-airstrike/13879501/ 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: What's your opinion on the Hamas acts of terror in Israel? Any killing is sad. Im really not that opinionated on this topic. My only real skin in this conflict is my tax dollars and possibly WW3. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattlesnake Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, rabas said: There have been many fake accusations of the IDF using white phosphorus, most are videos and images from the Ukraine war. These have been posted on social media since almost the first day. There is now a claim from Human Rights Watch who says they confirmed a video of one use in Gaza with 2 or 3 artillery shells, on a seaside location. The announcement comes from the Beirut office. The images are clear but the video elusive. LINK Israel has denied the HRC claim. LINK Edit: the HRW's two videos come from X social media. Link to HRW analysis page. Such claims need verification in war time. Israel has used white phosphorus before, particularly during the 2008-2009 Operation Cast Lead. The Israel Defense Forces fired at least three white phosphorus shells above this UN-run school in Beit Lahiya on January 17, 2009, killing two and wounding 14. The school was housing about 1,600 displaced persons at the time. https://www.hrw.org/report/2009/03/25/rain-fire/israels-unlawful-use-white-phosphorus-gaza Israel admits troops may have used phosphorus shells in Gaza Amnesty warns Israel could be guilty of war crimes https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jan/21/gaza-phosphorus-shells A decade ago today, Israel launched “Operation Cast Lead” against the Gaza Strip. The military campaign took the lives of some 1,400 Palestinians, including more than three hundred children. https://jacobin.com/2018/12/operation-cast-lead-ten-year-anniversary-israel-occupation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rattlesnake Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Elkski said: Any killing is sad. Im really not that opinionated on this topic. My only real skin in this conflict is my tax dollars and possibly WW3. If you are American, then your tax dollars have been used to wage Israel's wars for decades. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 44 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: What's your opinion on the Hamas acts of terror in Israel? Whats your opinion on the bulldozers razing Palestinians houses for expansion of Israel settlements? And all the seemingly over reaction shootings over the years of Palestinians? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 All this for religious beliefs? So sad. I just hope the aliens land soon and enlighten us all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 Just now, rattlesnake said: If you are American, then your tax dollars have been used to wage Israel's wars for decades. The 3 Billion $ that the USA gives Israel a year is rather insignificant , as Israel's GDP is 500 Billion per year and the USA aid all goes back to the USA arms industry and so benefits the USA economy 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, rattlesnake said: If you are American, then your tax dollars have been used to wage Israel's wars for decades. There are American dead and American hostages. The USA gets its money worth out of Israel. Ask any Fighter pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Elkski said: Whats your opinion on the bulldozers razing Palestinians houses for expansion of Israel settlements? And all the seemingly over reaction shootings over the years of Palestinians? What is your opinion on European settlers taking over American Indian land and calling it the USA ? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Thorgal said: How many Hamas militants participated in the assaults and hostage operations? 1.000? Bringing in an Aircraft carrier with its supporting vessels is quite a lot for 1.000 flip flop militants. A second US Aircraft carrier is on it's way too. https://abc7news.com/israel-palestine-conflict-five-things-to-know-hamas-war-attacks-gaza-strip-airstrike/13879501/ The warships are more a precautionary deterrent for other troublemaking parties in the region wanting to widen the conflict. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, daveAustin said: The warships are more a precautionary deterrent for other troublemaking parties in the region wanting to widen the conflict. 2 airfields have been bombed by IAF this week...Aleppo + Damascus https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/syria-state-tv-says-israeli-attack-targets-aleppo-damascus-airports-2023-10-12/ Edited October 13, 2023 by Thorgal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: What is your opinion on European settlers taking over American Indian land and calling it the USA ? It was a historical crime that consisted of genocide and land theft. Can you think of a current situation that is a crime consisting of genocide and land theft? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Danderman123 said: WTF are you talking about? Nobody believes that anymore. It’s a joke. Why did anyone believe it in the first place is a very important question though, isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrMojoRisin Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Its more to do with their Religious beliefs and their undeveloped culture and the society they grew up in Text book definition of racism from you here. Anyone making a similar sort of comment about Israeli’s would be met with howls of antisemite from the likes of you. Hypocrite. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrMojoRisin Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 8 hours ago, norfolkandchance said: Big day Tomorrow. God bless the IDF and the IAF. They will prevail. Well of course they will prevail, the mismatch between them and the Palestinians is enormous. Slaughtering fish in a barrel is nothing to be proud of. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrMojoRisin Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Yagoda said: PS: Hamas killed your fellow Americans and are holding a Utahan hostage. Care about that? Naw, lets speculate on dual loyalty. Outed, outed, outed. Ill take this one step further: If you are an American and you arent applauding the Izzies, you are a Jew hater. Real Americans stand with their own. Dont kill our citizens. Lets thank the IDF for doing our light work. Real Americans couldn’t find Israel on a map. If the Utahan was trans, half of American would be cheering on Hamas. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yagoda Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Of course you couldn’t comment on what the gentleman had to say could you. He is far more informed on this topic than anyone commenting here and what do you do - ignore, ignore, ignore. It’s very hard to label him an antisemite isn’t it so what do we get…, fabulous eyebrows. Coward. Im not debating anything with Jew Haters and could care less what he says. And you too for that matter. You were outed pages ago. Better the Israelis take the casualties than us. Go boys go! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrMojoRisin Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Im not debating anything with Jew Haters and could care less what he says. And you too for that matter. You were outed pages ago. Better the Israelis take the casualties than us. Go boys go! Yep, keep that noggin of yours buried deep in the sand and keep up with the unfounded “Jew hater” and “antisemitism” accusations - that’s all you’ve got, ignorance and lies. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 The IDF striking Hamas terrorist targets inside residential areas of Gaza where they are firing their rockets from. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkandchance Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said: Well of course they will prevail, the mismatch between them and the Palestinians is enormous. Slaughtering fish in a barrel is nothing to be proud of. Yes it is. 'An eye for an eye' but in this case lots more eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) Image and information from "The Times" Center is Rut Perez who has muscular dystrophy, she is unable to walk or talk and is entirely reliant on her family to feed her through a tube …. She was abducted by the terrorists of the Palestinian Government, and was taken to Gaza. It is difficult for any normal human being to imagine that another human being on this planet could be so devoid of any humanity as to carry out an act of such extreme cruelty. No doubt one of the Hamas apologists on here will justify this cruelty with some form of whataboutery. Edited October 14, 2023 by Eloquent pilgrim 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted October 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2023 7 hours ago, Thorgal said: How many Hamas militants participated in the assaults and hostage operations? 1.000? Bringing in an Aircraft carrier with its supporting vessels is quite a lot for 1.000 flip flop militants. A second US Aircraft carrier is on it's way too. https://abc7news.com/israel-palestine-conflict-five-things-to-know-hamas-war-attacks-gaza-strip-airstrike/13879501/ US citizens were murdered, US citizens were kidnapped. Not too hard to understand. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said: Well of course they will prevail, the mismatch between them and the Palestinians is enormous. Slaughtering fish in a barrel is nothing to be proud of. Hamas seems pretty proud of the attack on Israel. Lot of Gazans celebrating. Same in the West Bank. Edited October 14, 2023 by Morch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 45 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Image and information from "The Times" Center is Rut Perez who has muscular dystrophy, she is unable to walk or talk and is entirely reliant on her family to feed her through a tube …. She was abducted by the terrorists of the Palestinian Government, and was taken to Gaza. It is difficult for any normal human being to imagine that another human being on this planet could be so devoid of any humanity as to carry out an act of such extreme cruelty. No doubt one of the Hamas apologists on here will justify this cruelty with some form of whataboutery. A pity you don't see the difference between explaining and apologizing. But what else to expect from someone who sees all criticism of Israel as anti-Semitism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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