44 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Regarding your vile lie in the last paragraph about "most" Israelis. 

Not all criticism of Israel is anti-semitic of course.

Yours above is 

Shame on you.

You keep misusing this term Anti-semitic and labelling it to anyone on this form who you disagree with.

 

If criticising the current ongoing criminal behavior of Israel is Gaza and the 24/7 bombing of women and children is anti-semetic then that would be a badge of honor.

3 minutes ago, rabas said:

So, severe storm warnings and evacuation advisories in Florida are ethnic cleaning? Who knew.

 

Gazans were advised to leave their homes, not Gaza, temporarily to save their lives. Hamas is trying to keep them there to die.

 

Many want to leave Gaza.

Egypt says no.

Arab solidarity strikes again.

Just now, Danny Australia said:

The moral position is to stop intentional targeting of civilians in the first place. Do you know how many women and children were killed in the last 24 hours alone in Gaza? 

Please tell me or point me to a link that says Israels  is Intenitonal targeting civilians   you have a wild imagination  you need to stop posting stuff that is not facts

Just now, Danny Australia said:

You keep misusing this term Anti-semitic and labelling it to anyone on this form who you disagree with.

 

If criticising the current ongoing criminal behavior of Israel is Gaza and the 24/7 bombing of women and children is anti-semetic then that would be a badge of honor.

Stop lying.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

So sleazy!

You know perfectly well I was referring to your vile lie that the majority of Israelis have a second country.

18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So the women and children should stay and die, rather than go until the fighting settles down and return? 

No civilian should have to be given this choice, leave or die. Absolutely criminal behaviour that can only be committed by a terrorist state like Israel.

6 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

The moral position is to stop intentional targeting of civilians in the first place. Do you know how many women and children were killed in the last 24 hours alone in Gaza? 

Do you know how big Gaza is? It's the most heavily populated place in the World Danny. Like most of the Hamas fans on here if they are asked a specific question they ignore it because they can't answer. One poster keeps using the term carpet bombing he doesn't even understand what carpet bombing is.

Just now, Danny Australia said:

No civilian should have to be given this choice, leave or die. Absolutely criminal behaviour that can only be committed by a terrorist state like Israel.

only your posts are Absolutely criminal  no facts only rubbish

Just now, Danny Australia said:

No civilian should have to be given this choice, leave or die. Absolutely criminal behaviour that can only be committed by a terrorist state like Israel.

I wonder do you know What Hamas is and what the Hamas covernant is

49 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 

So according your many posts, Biden can do no wrong and Israel can do no wrong. 

Anyone who mentions otherwise is a Trump supporter or an Antisemite , is this correct?

What about what Trump did to help Israel, that must be hard for you to think about ???? 

…and not to mention the throttle put on Iran by the previous administration as opposed to the current administration by appeasing Iran with a foolish false notion that Iran will suddenly have some sort of honor.

 

In any case, ideological indifference will always impede progress.

He is just jumping on the Bandwagon MikeandDow 2 post's name calls then probably disappears.

Israel at war? So what? They are always at war, bombing Iran or Syria. Stealing land. I hope Hamas kicks their collective ass (I know it's not likely, toy guns against tanks was never a winning strategy). I just wish they would stop killing Palestinians, stop with the apartheid and give the Palestinians a fair deal.

25 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

The moral position is to stop intentional targeting of civilians in the first place

This is a deliberate and blatant lie and you know it is; the only intentional targeting of civilians was carried out by the Palestinian government on Saturday 7th October; try to stick to facts, it will give your arguments more weight.

47 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

My reliable source :

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Al-Aqsa_Flood

 

Quote from source :

 

Simultaneously, around 1,000^[25] Palestinian militants infiltrated Israel from Gaza using trucks, pickup trucks, motorcycles, bulldozers, speedboats and paragliders

LOL, as I thought, your so called reliable source a Wiki entry that relies on its source [25] which happens to be a live blog update that has now closed from the 7th Oct on Al Jazeera.

 

Try something a little more up to date with figures next time.

Just now, BarraMarra said:

Do you know how big Gaza is? It's the most heavily populated place in the World Danny. Like most of the Hamas fans on here if they are asked a specific question they ignore it because they can't answer. One poster keeps using the term carpet bombing he doesn't even understand what carpet bombing is.

again you need to check yout facts rather than make them up Gaza is NOT the most heavily populated place in the World, it is  third most densely populated in the world.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

Do you know what carpet bombing is Thorgal ?

Yes. It's a difficult point to acknowledge here on AN, but some Israeli government representatives have no difficulty in doing so :

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Please tell me or point me to a link that says Israels  is Intenitonal targeting civilians   you have a wild imagination  you need to stop posting stuff that is not facts

Read the news

Just now, Danny Australia said:

No civilian should have to be given this choice, leave or die. Absolutely criminal behaviour that can only be committed by a terrorist state like Israel.

And what did the white people do to the Abbos in australia  you need to read History 

Just now, retarius said:

Read the news

There are no reliable news outlets claiming Israel deliberately targets civilians. 

There are plenty of reliable news outlets reporting Hamas deliberately targeted civilians.

2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

again you need to check yout facts rather than make them up Gaza is NOT the most heavily populated place in the World, it is  third most densely populated in the world.

Ok let me rephrase it MikeandDow. For its size, Gaza is the most populated.

1 minute ago, MikeandDow said:

And what did the white people do to the Abbos in australia  you need to read History 

Ha ha the old whataboutism.

Just now, retarius said:

Read the news

i do and There are no reliable news outlets claiming Israel deliberately targets civilians.

Just now, BarraMarra said:

Ok let me rephrase it MikeandDow. For its size, Gaza is the most populated.

correct and factual 

8 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

Yes. It's a difficult point to acknowledge here on AN, but some Israeli government representatives have no difficulty in doing so :

 

 

 

You have totally misrepresented what was said on the interview. 

6 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

Yes. It's a difficult point to acknowledge here on AN, but some Israeli government representatives have no difficulty in doing so :

 

 

 

If Israel wanted to carpet bomb Gaza it would be now Dust. If you want to keep going with this i suggest you look at before and after photos of Dresden being carpet bombed.

57 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

The terrorist state Israel would never allow the establishment of a Palestinian State because that is counterproductive. They need this situation to continue forever to justify getting billions in aid and support from the western world for them under the pretence of being the protectors of democracy and as the tiny peaceful nation under threat from barbaric neighbors. Establishing a Palestinian state would destroy this big lie.

 

Hence, Israel has been making excuses and misusing the so-called peace talks process for 30 years (since the Oslo peace agreement) not to leave the occupied territories or allow any chance of a Palestinian State.  To the contrary, they have been confiscating more Palestinian lands and establishing more illegal Jewish settlements in the heart of the west bank and East Jerusalem to make the idea of a Palestinian State practically impossible.

 

 

Other than in your imagination and your post Israel is not a 'terrorist state'. Most countries in the World maintain relations with it, and many governments expressed support after the Hamas attack. Australia included.

 

Israel does not get billions in aid and support from the 'Western world'. It specifically gets annual military aid budget from the USA (which is in effect a sort of Buy American coupon, and goes back to USA economy). But go on about lies...by all means.

 

From your 'account' of the peace process one could almost believe that the Palestinians were ready and willing, reaching out their hands to Israel, only to be spurned. Most everyone halfway familiar with things will laugh at that. Takes two to tango. 

30 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Please tell me or point me to a link that says Israels  is Intenitonal targeting civilians   you have a wild imagination  you need to stop posting stuff that is not facts

For me, just stop the genocide against Palestinians.

52 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

Quote from reliable link :

 

Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, and religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making a region ethnically homogeneous. Along with direct removal, extermination, deportation or population transfer, it also includes indirect methods aimed at forced migration by coercing the victim group to flee and preventing its return, such as murder, rape, and property destruction.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing

 

The Gazans had 24 hours to leave (forced) the area above the natural Gaza river. How do I troll if what's happening to Gaza is described in Wiki...

There is nothing said about permanent removal. There is nothing said about Israel permanently taking charge of the Gaza Strip. Citizens are urged to evacuate as to save lives.

 

Weak.

42 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

The moral position is to stop intentional targeting of civilians in the first place. Do you know how many women and children were killed in the last 24 hours alone in Gaza? 

There is no intentional targeting of civilians. No serious source claims this. If it was true, casualty figures would be way way higher. To equate - the death toll inflicted on Israel during the recent Hamas attack was far more intense.

 

Consider this: Hamas carried out it's attack knowing full well Israel will respond in force. There were no measures taken to warn or protect the populace, and now Hamas even calls on the to remain in harm's way or even tries to prevent them from doing so.

 

 

2 hours ago, vinny41 said:

Earlier this week the Palestinian side of the Rafah crossing had to be closed due to multiple bombing by Israel

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/egypt-urges-israel-to-stop-bombing-rafah-crossing-to-allow-aid-delivery/

And the jewishpress article stated that 

Israel announced that it would bomb any supply truck attempting to deliver goods from Egypt into the Gaza Strip

Nothing about Israel bombing Egypt 

 

It did say any Vehicles attempting to deliver goods into Gaza , which sounds like the vernicles wouldn't have reached Gaza yet , meaning they would still be in Egypt .

   

33 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

No civilian should have to be given this choice, leave or die. Absolutely criminal behaviour that can only be committed by a terrorist state like Israel.

This is happening now. This is a real situation. You want to start theorizing about what's the absolute 'right' thing? Or maybe let them people get away, and discuss it later? So noble of some posters here to take such a heroic stand....

 

Why didn't Hamas invest in bomb shelters for the Gazans? Why are Hamas operatives and leaders safely (for now) underground? Why are other Hamas leaders urging the same nonsense while living in the Gulf, Turkey and Lebanon? Why aren't their immediate families in the Gaza Strip?

 

Israel got it's own pack of sins, sure - but laying it all on Israel is way off mark.