Chinese Tourist Arrivals Plunged Nearly 30% Week Over Week

[Irish star]

5 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Blame a shooting Typical. look closer to home for the drop-in Tourists.

Kidnappers also 

[Irish star]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Less Chinese. That's good news, surely?

Good news for the buffets 

[blazes]

57 minutes ago, Cabradelmar said:

The Chinese are not coming in mass anytime soon. Good, bad or indifferent. Those are the facts. And the only ones that seem surprised is TAT. The world is a far different place than it was in 2019 (far more fear, uncertainty, doubt -  beit economic, war, guns/drugs/crime - there's plenty to point to). Yet TAT still wants to believe 50 million tourist will be arriving by 2025. TAT has lost the plot entirely. 

You mean, they did once "have" the plot?

Edited October 11, 2023 by blazes

[StayinThailand2much]

6 hours ago, Pique Dard said:

...so what about tourist arrivals from myanmar?

Thailand mostly just cares about arrivals from China...

[newnative]

2 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

No surprises here.

October/November have always been low season.

This means less tourists. ????

According to Google, and several other sources, the high season in Thailand is November to March.  One source put it nicely:

 

Thailand has three distinct seasons: the high season, the hot season, and the rainy season. In most of Thailand, the high season lasts from November to early March, while the hot season is from March to May and the rainy season lasts from May to October.

[stix40]

About time we had some good news for once ! 

 

[Stargeezr]

In Canada, school season starts in September, how about China don't the children have to

go to school as well? Hmm, I wonder if this may be a reason for less tourists?

  

[spidermike007]

They will continue to get more Indian, Malaysian, Arab, Russian, and some Chinese tourists. But most will be lower income, and lower middle income tourists. Thailand just cannot attract higher income tourists anymore. Very few. The focus on quantity over quality will continue to erode the nation on countless levels. More is rarely better. It just lowers the quality of life for nearly everyone, creates more congestion, more smog, more traffic, longer lines at immigration, and makes life difficult, especially in the big cities. There are countless things the government could be doing, if they wanted to attract the high quality tourists, and go for quality over quantity.

 

Quantity over quality is never a good thing, unless you are selling one dollar items at a swap meet. It just lowers the quality of the experience for all.

 

[kevin612]

I don’t want them come, turns everything more expensive 

[ignore it]

Just imagine TAT as a woman.

 

Imagine your married to this woman.

 

Euphoria at increases in numbers. 

Excuses at declines. Optimism and ridiculous rationalization.

 

Never happy.

 

Jeeze, kind of reminds me of my Italian/American ex, and my alcoholic dermatologist ex from Montana rolled into one.

[ChipButty]

Here in the south of Phuket it is noticeable, only a couple of days a go the gypsy village seafood market was quiet, usually mobbed with Chinese tourist, 

[ChipButty]

15 minutes ago, kevin612 said:

I don’t want them come, turns everything more expensive 

Then how would people survive? 

[mikebell]

1 hour ago, Cabradelmar said:

TAT has lost the plot entirely. 

They never had it in the 1st place; staffed by Mathematical numbskulls with a lively imagination wearing rose-coloured glasses and related to some hi-so.

[bignok]

1 hour ago, BangkokAlan said:

Chinese tourist numbers dropped as last week was golden week in China and it was a full week public holiday that’s start every years 1st Oct for 7 days.. This week everyone is back to work so it’s normal to see this decline in numbers. 

Stop posting facts

[retarius]

The news from TAT is always so lame. It must be the least effective organisation in the whole of Thailand. Is there any support for a blackout on TAT news, so we don't have to read this tripe? Perhaps the moderators could re-evaluate the usefulness of TAT news to its readers?

[tomazbodner]

Of course being a national holiday week in China last week (autumn festival) and not this week has nothing to do with it...

Edited October 11, 2023 by tomazbodner
Should have read whole thread first. BangkokAlan already pointed out the same. Thumb up!

[sscc]

The two Chinese festivals were on Sep28 and Oct01,  and the extended holiday period were Sept 28-Oct 8. 

So Flights outbound from China to Thailand of course peaked on Sep 27, 28, 29, 30 and Oct 1.  

Then the arrival figures gradually declined. 

 

"  THE Ministry of Tourism and Sports said today (Oct. 10) the number of foreign tourists arriving in Thailand dropped week over week (Oct. 2-8, 2023 over Sep. 25-Oct. 1, 2023) especially those from China with their total plunging by 29.47% "     

 

 "  Chinese tourist arrivals plunged nearly 30 % week over week " 

 

Chinese Tourist Arrivals Plunged Nearly 30% Week Over Week

 

 

Statements like this showed the reporter understood nothing.  

[NoshowJones]

6 hours ago, Bim Smith said:

Ten years ago when flying out of the old airport it looked almost empty. 9 years later I flew out to the same destination in Malaysia and it was packed with Chinese tourists. The previous government went out its way to court the Chinese while making it more difficult for western tourists. A 6 month tourist visa from the UK was so easy to get. A simple application and 75 pounds later the visa was in your passport from a consulate in Liverpool. Then they moved all applications to the embassy in London and the process now requires proof of funds and insurance. You reap what you sow. 

That is a good example of what happens when you have unelected soldiers who took over Thailand in an illegal coup, running the country.

[NoshowJones]

2 hours ago, Irish star said:

Good news for the buffets 

and the taxis, trains and sidewalks not getting peed, cr@pped on and covered in spittals.

[Dogmatix]

Very sad for the families of the shooting victims but couldn't care less, if less Chinese tourists come permanently.

[pedro01]

8 hours ago, connda said:

I guess they didn't like the shooting at Paragon.

I dunno - if you'd sunk money in a holiday - would you cancel it because of that?

 

Seems to me like it'd just be a fluctuation. Nothing to worry about.

[Caldera]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

That the number of Chinese tourist arrivals decreased is seen to have stemmed from the teenage shooter killing two persons

If that's in fact true, they sure are a fickle crowd. Teflon Thailand no more, if they continue to put their eggs in that basket?

[Iron Tongue]

I think Chinese visitors as a major group has ended for possibly decades.   

Most Chinese have gone back to squirreling away their money in preparation for some really, really hard times.  If they vacation, it will be mostly domestic travel.

The real estate market, which accounts for 20% of China's GDP, is crashing with no way to fix it.

China has built so much new housing that even if their population (1.4 billion people) doubled, it still wouldn't be enough to fill all the excess capacity.

Nobody knows what this will do to China, or the global economy, but if cash-strapped Chinese real estate investors start dumping their foreign holdings, RE and banking institutions worldwide would nosedive along with China.

[thesetat]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

 

THE Ministry of Tourism and Sports said today (Oct. 10) the number of foreign tourists arriving in Thailand dropped week over week (Oct. 2-8, 2023 over Sep. 25-Oct. 1, 2023) especially those from China with their total plunging by 29.47%, TV Channel 7 said.

 

Last week there were altogether 497,966 foreign tourists, a decrease of 54,453 foreign holidaymakers from the previous week. However a big drop in Chinese tourists was seen with the total dwindling from 106,472 the previous week to only 75,093 last week.

 

That the number of Chinese tourist arrivals decreased is seen to have stemmed from the teenage shooter killing two persons, both women one from Myanmar and the other from China, and injuring five others.

 

by TNR Staff 

Top: Tourists from mainland China dressed in traditional Thai costumes visit Wat Arun temple on Jan. 18, 2023. Photo: Reuters/Chalinee Thirasupa and published by CNA

 

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These people must be real idiots.. To say it stemmed from the shooting at the mall is ludicrous. If this was the case then arrivals would have dropped but they would have been cancellations for this. My guess is the first influx was those people available to travel and took advantage of the timing for Thais cancellation of the entry fee and new visa program for Chinese. After that, tourism would have dropped anyway. I expect it to be a lot less soon as their comments about the shooting will make the Chinese more hesitant to book any flights here. That along with the kidnapping and forced labor or ransoming that has been happening to Chinese people in Thailand. But this would affect numbers in the future. Not immediately as the article suggests. 

[Laughing Gravy]

18 minutes ago, thesetat said:

These people must be real idiots.. To say it stemmed from the shooting at the mall is ludicrous.

Yes agree. But they will use any excuse for their own continued incompetence.

[paul1804]

There are many more factors than the Siam Paragon shoot up, how stupid is the Thai Tourism. The shooting was last week so how has that affected that week and the week previous??? Were the Chinese with paid tickets just waiting for a reason to cancel, saw the shooting and thousands cancelled. Its low season, wet season, the end of Chinese holidays etc etc. TT  just needed a reason to admit that tourist numbers are bad and looking at the latest world news probably not going to get better soon! 

 

[Burma Bill]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

especially those from China with their total plunging by 29.47%,

Interesting and may explain this in today's Khmer media. No mention of Chinese tourists BUT:

 

"This proposal was made during a meeting between Sok Soken, Minister of Tourism, and Mr. Patrick Muphy, US Ambassador to Cambodia, on October 10, 2023, to discuss how to improve as a Cambodia-US partner, especially to promote tourism and examine opportunities to strengthen tourism cooperation.

The Minister pointed out that US tourists are Cambodia’s main target market, being among the top 10 markets both before and after the COVID-19 crisis"

 

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/501374880/minister-of-tourism-asks-the-us-side-to-help-attract-tourists-and-investors-to-cambodia/

 

Moderators please remove if considered irrelevent.

[Taboo2]

This is a stupid news article.  There is no evidence provided.

[jacko45k]

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Edited October 11, 2023 by jacko45k

[Speedhump]

Chinese tourism always does worldwide this whenever there's a bad news item. They seem a scared people, I guess because they're very insular. Maybe like Thais?