herfiehandbag Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) Do you have to take it apart to mend it in a layby on the A303, for the second time in a week, whilst your (soon to be ex) girlfriend watches impatiently. If not, it is not an MG! Edited October 22, 2023 by herfiehandbag 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, KhunLA said: Nice toy to have, IF, wanting to add another car to one's collection. Or if just wanting to be a bit sporty & stylish when going from point A - B. Impractical for myself, as I'd never use the convertible aspect of it here/TH. Pretty damn awesome though ... with added plus of being yet another fine product from CH, instead of crap from the UK, thankfully 😁 Strange they named it MG after "your" UK crap quote, isn't it, very strange.... Perhaps you being from the USA don't have a clue, eh.....😂 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JBChiangRai Posted October 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, transam said: Strange they named it MG after "your" UK crap quote, isn't it, very strange.... Perhaps you being from the USA don't have a clue, eh.....😂 Get back under your bridge! 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, transam said: Strange they named it MG after "your" UK crap quote, isn't it, very strange.... Perhaps you being from the USA don't have a clue, eh.....😂 No, MG (the company) named the vehicle the Cyberster. Much the same as Toyota naming a car a Yaris or Ford naming a car the Fiesta. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted October 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said: Get back under your bridge! Celerio or MG Cyberster... which to own? ... tough decision 😂 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: Er - AFAIK there is more to building a car than just steel. You think the Japanese and Koreans are importing car components from China? They would probably sooner chew razor blades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, transam said: It's not British...........😏 Most people would view that as positive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Lacessit said: You think the Japanese and Koreans are importing car components from China? They would probably sooner chew razor blades. They all have manufacturing facilities and/or joint ventures in China. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, quake said: Did they just nick the steering wheel from the Austin Allegro. Considering that there is no rational comparison, no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lacessit said: You think the Japanese and Koreans are importing car components from China? They would probably sooner chew razor blades. I am 100% sure they import components from China, it's straight forward economics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, transam said: It's not British...........😏 Thankfully! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, JBChiangRai said: I am 100% sure they import components from China, it's straight forward economics Toyota has several joint ventures in China for the production of the Avalon, Land Cruiser, RAV4, etc etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said: I am 100% sure they import components from China, it's straight forward economics That might explain why some of their quality statistics are going downhill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, retarius said: No when MG were British they were a by-word for low quality crap, same as anything from British Leyland. I had a 1968 MGB for about 25 years in the US, 144,000 original miles, great fun to drive in the summer with the top down, but what an awfully hard drive and foul suspension. You were totally exhausted after driving it for 10 minutes around the post-winter, pot-holed US roads but nice on decent roads. That's a reflection of crappy US infrastructure, not MGBs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Lacessit said: That might explain why some of their quality statistics are going downhill. Maybe they are too busy chewing razor blades. Edited October 22, 2023 by Ralf001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JBChiangRai Posted October 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lacessit said: That might explain why some of their quality statistics are going downhill. I think it's fair to accept that there are 2 leaders in EV technology, one is Tesla, the other is China. I doubt Tesla will keep up. People won't want aging designs, Models S,3,X,Y they want a new design every few years. IMHO, China is already overtaking Tesla. Some reviewers are already saying that BYD's Seal is a superior car to Tesla's 3. It's certainly far better finished and equipped. And I think it's universally accepted that the Lucid Air is a superior car to Tesla's S as is The Porsche Taycan & Audi equivalent. Edited October 22, 2023 by JBChiangRai 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, retarius said: like the Japanese cars of old (70s and early 80s), these Chinese cars might not be a quality build. You're basing that on what? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: I think it's fair to accept that there are 2 leaders in EV technology, one is Tesla, the other is China. I doubt Tesla will keep up. People won't want aging designs, Models S,3,X,Y they want a new design every few years. IMHO, China is already overtaking Tesla. The jury is still out on whether Chinese cars have the same reliability as the Japanese and Korean brands. The Honda Accord of the 2000's had an awesome reputation. LDV in Australia has already achieved the cachet of worst s!!tbox for rust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, retarius said: like the Japanese cars of old (70s and early 80s), these Chinese cars might not be a quality build. I had cars/truck from JP in 70s & 80s, and were fine products. Choose wisely & smile. Choose poorly & have regrets ... UP2U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lacessit said: The jury is still out on whether Chinese cars have the same reliability as the Japanese and Korean brands. The Honda Accord of the 2000's had an awesome reputation. LDV in Australia has already achieved the cachet of worst s!!tbox for rust. Not really, and cars from CH have a long track record. Cars from JP have been using their reputation as being better than US or EU/UK cars, which really doesn't say much. They've used up that clout, and it really no longer applies, as they've been called out so many times now for poor quality, the reputation is only good on ignorant people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, KhunLA said: I had cars/truck from JP in 70s & 80s, and were fine products. Choose wisely & smile. Choose poorly & have regrets ... UP2U Maybe it was the damp climate or the salty roads......but Datsuns rotted before your very eyes and before you could get the Polyfilla in. The Honda Accord and the Datsun Bluebird were the first decent Japanese cars to be marketed in the UK. They set new standards of what a consumer could expect from a car company, that British Leyland simply couldn't meet. The propaganda blamed the unions but, it was poor design and poor engineering that management encouraged that did BL in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ralf001 Posted October 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Lacessit said: The jury is still out on whether Chinese cars have the same reliability as the Japanese and Korean brands. MG certainly became more reliable once SIAC took over. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, retarius said: Maybe it was the damp climate or the salty roads......but Datsuns rotted before your very eyes and before you could get the Polyfilla in. The Honda Accord and the Datsun Bluebird were the first decent Japanese cars to be marketed in the UK. They set new standards of what a consumer could expect from a car company, that British Leyland simply couldn't meet. The propaganda blamed the unions but, it was poor design and poor engineering that management encouraged that did BL in. And yet, 2 of my first car/truck from JP were Datsun, and served my well. Both inexpensive entry level, but didn't take anything away from the quality. Along with another Nissan bought later that I loved to drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroubleandGrumpy Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 The two worst cars I ever drove were an old Nissan Pulsar (which was new) and an MG Z. The Pulsar was a long time ago (rental car) and I never throught that it would be 'bettered' - but the MG Z that I rented for 2 weeks did the trick.The way that I look at it, all brands have a few 'duds' - even Mercedes screwed up with the original As and Bs. But going forward, I aint likely to ever get an MG - especially this showroom monstrosity - sorry mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said: Get back under your bridge! I don't own or live near a bridge, I think you are mistaken, but the Chinese were not mistaken using "MG since 1924" as their sales ploy........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, transam said: I don't own or live near a bridge, I think you are mistaken, but the Chinese were not mistaken using "MG since 1924" as their sales ploy........ My comment went over your head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Lacessit said: Most people would view that as positive. No, that is your assumption......😉....🤭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: Thankfully! Why...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: My comment went over your head? Like most of your comments.........😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 44 minutes ago, transam said: No, that is your assumption......😉....🤭 It used to be said one bought two Jaguars, as one was guaranteed to be in the service shop being fixed. I still remember one Austin - a Westminster or similar name - that still had wire mechanical brakes when everyone else had gone to hydraulics. Who could forget the Hillman Imp, which went from terminal understeer to lethal oversteer on a small change in tyre pressure? Or the first Ford Prefect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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