Overstaying by hours

[Caldera]

10 hours ago, Rastaputin said:

Well, I was airside, but had not left the Country (lifted off ground) technically. Some people here claim that you haven't left the Country until the plane either starts taxiing, or lifts off ground, or crosses the border airborne.

 

It really only matters if a flight delay (or cancelation) forces you back landside, because in that case you'd need to be processed by immigration again.

 

They'd simply cancel your exit stamp, which might not leave you with enough time to arrange for your departure without overstay if you had already maxed out your permission to stay.

[Captain Monday]

It seems like some people have got thru lucky without an overstay stamp, or it is up to the IO?  Or we have not established a straight answer to what the actual regulation is under Thai immigration law (for what it's worth as Thai law appears to be whatever a man with a badge says it is).

 

TG 648 BKK-FUK leaves at 01:00AM tomorrow. Always has departed around this time, for good reason. So, if one's permit to stay expires on Nov 26 and one passes thru BKK immigration prior to 23:59 on Nov 26 with a boarding pass for this flight is it an overstay or not?

 

Edited November 25, 2023 by Captain Monday

[Pattaya57]

5 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

It seems like some people have got thru lucky without an overstay stamp, or it is up to the IO?  Or we have not established a straight answer to what the actual regulation is under Thai immigration law (for what it's worth as Thai law appears to be whatever a man with a badge says it is).

 

TG 648 BKK-FUK leaves at 01:00AM tomorrow. Always has departed around this time, for good reason. So, if one's permit to stay expires on Nov 26 and one passes thru BKK immigration prior to 23:59 on Nov 26 with a boarding pass for this flight is it an overstay or not?

 

Going through immigration at 23:59 is a bit silly and cutting it fine, but going through before midnight and therefore getting a 26 Nov Exit stamp means no overstay.

 

Please note the only person in this thread constantly saying he was hit with overstay for doing above admitted later this was 20 years ago so irrelevant (he probably miscounted his 30 days and actually was on overstay, who knows, it was 20 years ago)

[Maestro]

18 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

...Please note the only person in this thread constantly saying he was hit with overstay for doing above admitted later this was 20 years ago so irrelevant (he probably miscounted his 30 days and actually was on overstay, who knows, it was 20 years ago)

 

Thank you, Pattaya 57, for pointing this out; it had escaped my attention.

 

As we are now on page four of this interesting topic I'd like to mention that I have never seen any published information about how immigration officials at the departure desks are instructed to handle this and I don't think any such publication exists.

 

Sipping my hot toddy before going to bed (10.25pm in my time zone) I am trying to put myself into the position of an immigration official at a departure desk with two date stamps in front of me, one set to today's date and the other to tomorrow's date, using one or the other to stamp departing passengers' passports depending on the scheduled departure date of their flights.

 

No, I don't think I would like this. The risk of accidentally using the wrong stamp for someone's passport would be too high.

[10years]

Male IO took my passport, flipped through it, after awhile took my fingerprints and photo, then called over another IO who escorted me to a tiny desk, stamped the dreaded overstay notice in my passport and let me through with a big smile. Neither asked me anything. No fine.

 

Question: Getting the overstay stamp is no big deal as I'm getting a new passport anyway. But do they make some entry in their computer system that marks me as an overstayer for life?

[MiWV]

On 11/5/2023 at 7:00 AM, MJCM said:

why is it poor planning? Just trying to make the most of your time in LoS but IO doesn’t see it that way (and you are still following the rules IMHO (leaving the country before your extension of stay is due))

Staying beyond the validity is on the person doing it. Not sure how you can suggest otherwise.

[Maestro]

5 hours ago, 10years said:

Male IO took my passport, flipped through it, after awhile took my fingerprints and photo, then called over another IO who escorted me to a tiny desk, stamped the dreaded overstay notice in my passport and let me through with a big smile. Neither asked me anything. No fine...

 

1. When and at what airport did this happen to you?

 

2. Did you pass through immigration before midnight to leave on a flight with a sheduled departure date after midnight?

[Nick Carter icp]

6 hours ago, 10years said:

Male IO took my passport, flipped through it, after awhile took my fingerprints and photo, then called over another IO who escorted me to a tiny desk, stamped the dreaded overstay notice in my passport and let me through with a big smile. Neither asked me anything. No fine.

 

Question: Getting the overstay stamp is no big deal as I'm getting a new passport anyway. But do they make some entry in their computer system that marks me as an overstayer for life?

 

   No one cares about a small overstay , I've had three overstays of a day or two in a passport and you just gut a tut and a roll off the eyes from immigration when entering next time  .

[Lemsta69]

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

No one cares about a small overstay

 

Immigration does when you're being vetted for a PE visa.

[Gottfrid]

On 11/5/2023 at 6:52 PM, MJCM said:

WHATT?"???????????
 

you are joking?

 

were you stamped out the day before? If so that is …….. 🤬

Yes, It is so.

[10years]

On 11/30/2023 at 7:52 AM, Maestro said:

 

1. When and at what airport did this happen to you?

 

2. Did you pass through immigration before midnight to leave on a flight with a sheduled departure date after midnight?

Suvarnabhumi this week for a flight leaving the same day.

[Captain Monday]

On 11/30/2023 at 10:51 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   No one cares about a small overstay , I've had three overstays of a day or two in a passport and you just gut a tut and a roll off the eyes from immigration when entering next time  potentially

Other countries one may try to enter or apply for a visa don’t necessarily make light of it.
 

You kid yourself if you think they can’t understand Thai immigration stamps

 

Try overstaying your visa exempt in Japan one day let us know what happens at the airport.  Not necessarily as bad as the rumors but….like you say Nick “nobody cares” and the Thailand elite programme is not your cup of tea. 

Edited December 2, 2023 by Captain Monday

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

Other countries one may try to enter or apply for a visa don’t necessarily make light of it.
 

You kid yourself if you think they can’t understand Thai immigration stamps

 

Try overstaying your visa exempt in Japan one day let us know what happens at the airport.  Not necessarily as bad as the rumors but….like you say Nick “nobody cares” and the Thailand elite programme is not your cup of tea. 

 

   I did  actually  overstay in Japan for six months and it wasn't a problem leaving and I went back to Japan a month later . I have never heard of anyone having problems entering another Country because of a few days overstay in Thailand  ,has that ever happened before ?

[Tim K]

Met American at the embassy in Phnom Penh, he got on the blacklist for overstay of 15 days.

He was trying to ask P-P staff to check if he is still on the BL or not.
They said we have no access to that, only Immigration at the border does.
I suggested he better buy a bus ticket and try his luck on the land border, just turn around if it fails.

[Caldera]

11 hours ago, Tim K said:

Met American at the embassy in Phnom Penh, he got on the blacklist for overstay of 15 days.

He was trying to ask P-P staff to check if he is still on the BL or not.
They said we have no access to that, only Immigration at the border does.
I suggested he better buy a bus ticket and try his luck on the land border, just turn around if it fails.

 

You gave him good advice, it's pointless to ask an embassy about that.

[Upnotover]

12 hours ago, Tim K said:

Met American at the embassy in Phnom Penh, he got on the blacklist for overstay of 15 days.

15 days on leaving would normally result in a fine only.  Or was he arrested?

[GypsyT]

4 years ago I got fine thinking it's "a month", not 30 days. No big deal to pay and learn.

 

I wonder if destination was OP's problem? FUK......