Bkk Brian Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, Thorgal said: That's a typical example of : 1. devaluating the original message of a poster 2. continuing repeated persecution on divers topics through guilt tripping and stalking 3. impersonating the AN authority by repeating to adhere to the rules, moderator warning, etc...to legalize the future report function and to generate a virtual warning If you break the rules consistently as you did then mods have no option but to act. Its really as simple as that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerjo Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said: Bigbash is your typical trouble-causer and wrecks threads constantly People don't start new threads because he berates them and when you have a go back at him he abuses you reports you and ignores you. Your posts are like the 3rd dog in taking the scraps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Thorgal said: That's a typical example of : 1. devaluating the original message of a poster 2. continuing repeated persecution on divers topics through guilt tripping and stalking 3. impersonating the AN authority by repeating to adhere to the rules, moderator warning, etc...to legalize the future report function and to generate a virtual warning No, that's telling it how it is. There is no requirement to see your 'message' as having much value. Commenting on your posts is not 'stalking'. And pointing out to the gap between what you whine about and how you actually roll is fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: If you break the rules consistently as you did then mods have no option but to act. Its really as simple as that Another typical example : The group will kick in to repeat the smear campaign through wat we call in psychology : "flying monkeys" https://en.wikipedia-on-ipfs.org/wiki/Flying_monkeys_(popular_psychology) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, Thorgal said: Another typical example : The group will kick in to repeat the smear campaign through wat we call in psychology : "flying monkeys" https://en.wikipedia-on-ipfs.org/wiki/Flying_monkeys_(popular_psychology) Sorry but that's got nothing to do with staying within the community guidelines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Sorry but that's got nothing to do with staying within the community guidelines That's a typical example of : 1. devaluating the original message of a poster 2. continuing repeated persecution on divers topics through guilt tripping and stalking 3. impersonating the AN authority by repeating to adhere to the rules, moderator warning, etc...to legalize the future report function and to generate a virtual warning 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Thorgal said: That's a typical example of : 1. devaluating the original message of a poster 2. continuing repeated persecution on divers topics through guilt tripping and stalking 3. impersonating the AN authority by repeating to adhere to the rules, moderator warning, etc...to legalize the future report function and to generate a virtual warning And? Do you think you have a special pass to break rules while us mere mortals stick to them as best we can? Anyway, its seems your off again so I'll leave you to it rather than let this topic get hijacked 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Lacessit said: Some of us can compose our own. I've got a few plus Jimmy Carr is always good for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, farmerjo said: Your posts are like the 3rd dog in taking the scraps. Ironic too. I never used to report anyone. Then a few started reporting me daily. It seems they can't handle their own medicine. I'm happy for light or heavy mods as long as its consistent and doesnt favour certain posters which clearly it did until 3 months ago. That O poster used to bait and troll people non stop. Always got away with it because of the political side of the fence he sat on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: And? Do you think you have a special pass to break rules while us mere mortals stick to them as best we can? Anyway, its seems your off again so I'll leave you to it rather than let this topic get hijacked The "created" unconformity of the messenger will be repeated until he leaves the topic and repeated onto another topic... It's all for a "created" good cause to get these posters out because they "create" serious harm... Edited November 11, 2023 by Thorgal 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vangrop Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 The more rules the more control you make subjects of people. Maybe it would be better to instaure a congregation. Or take an example on communist regimes or the Russians or North Korea. Is that what you want ban freedom of speech? If so you should erase the Forum, because than it is no Forum anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: And? Do you think you have a special pass to break rules while us mere mortals stick to them as best we can? Anyway, its seems your off again so I'll leave you to it rather than let this topic get hijacked I think there's an artform to staying 5% within the rules whilst pushing someone 5% over. Practice or knowing a mod helps. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, vangrop said: The more rules the more control you make subjects of people. Maybe it would be better to instaure a congregation. Or take an example on communist regimes or the Russians or North Korea. Is that what you want ban freedom of speech? If so you should erase the Forum, because than it is no Forum anymore. I believe the underlying issue in this thread is not about "more" rules but what rules can assist in combating excessive conflict which has the effect of driving away interest and thus forum members. How to set limits on those who are intransigent in self opinion and correctness they are incapable of tolerating any question or challenge to their or the mindset of a clique of opinion? If there were an audio version of some topics in AN all that would be heard is hysterical screaming and shouting down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark131v Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 6 hours ago, RocketDog said: Good post. What ruins a good thread faster than anything though is the multipage bickering between repliers that devolve into ad hominem attacks. When the bored and boring topics from posters you named gets monotonous I can just move on. When these are the only posters then I just skip AN entirely. Lately I've been skipping several days. Maybe some of us simply grow past needing /wanting the content, but surely the nonsense topics and replies are a deterrent to even opening AN to start with. If I just want background noise I turn on a radio. Nobody opens a forum page to read background drivel. For whatever reasons, the caliber of the AN forums is rapidly deteriorating. I just don't care enough to make an in-depth study of why it's failing. If I had a financial interest in the forum though I would sure as hell be paying more attention. Where's that +1 button George was talking about when you need it! I can think of a few more whingy whinny ones too usually the ones moaning about stalkers and bragging about their ignore lists, pathetic really... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Negita43 Posted November 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2023 Insulting people who don't agree with your viewpoint just shows how insecure you are in your own. Carefully watch your thoughts, for they become your words. Manage and watch your words, for they will become your actions. Consider and judge your actions, for they have become your habits. Acknowledge and watch your habits, for they shall become your values. Understand and embrace your values, for they become your destiny. Mahatma Gandhi 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vangrop Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, RanongCat said: I believe the underlying issue in this thread is not about "more" rules but what rules can assist in combating excessive conflict which has the effect of driving away interest and thus forum members. How to set limits on those who are intransigent in self opinion and correctness they are incapable of tolerating any question or challenge to their or the mindset of a clique of opinion? If there were an audio version of some topics in AN all that would be heard is hysterical screaming and shouting down We all are individuals with our own opinions. Of course you could find that one with another opinion is a stupid morron, probaly same as what he will think about you. Well one has to be subtile enough to pass an understanding message that the other probably will not understand. Agree that not everyone is gifted or intelligent enough for that. You could als punish the other by the silent treatment, Case closed. But it is not with a waterfall of rules that you will solve this issue. You know rules are the weapons of the weak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Negita43 Posted November 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, vangrop said: You could als punish the other by the silent treatment, Case closed. My approach - but I've never thought of it as a punishment. More like withdrawing their "conflict fix" and we know how junkies suffer without it. My mum used to say if you can't say anything good about something - don't say anything at all, 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 30 minutes ago, RanongCat said: I believe the underlying issue in this thread is not about "more" rules but what rules can assist in combating excessive conflict which has the effect of driving away interest and thus forum members. How to set limits on those who are intransigent in self opinion and correctness they are incapable of tolerating any question or challenge to their or the mindset of a clique of opinion? If there were an audio version of some topics in AN all that would be heard is hysterical screaming and shouting down. How do you feel about posters repeatedly badmouthing, cursing other posters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Negita43 said: Insulting people who don't agree with your viewpoint just shows how insecure you are in your own. Carefully watch your thoughts, for they become your words. Manage and watch your words, for they will become your actions. Consider and judge your actions, for they have become your habits. Acknowledge and watch your habits, for they shall become your values. Understand and embrace your values, for they become your destiny. Mahatma Gandhi Great quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mark131v Posted November 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2023 6 hours ago, bignok said: The topic isnt about Trump. You are trolling. Exactly whats wrong with the forum - off topic trolls. I beg to differ, your pedantic infantile multiple whinges is exactly what is wrong with this forum, it's good in a way as often when I see you and some of your cohorts on a thread I just do something more fulfilling like have a walk or take a dump or something. Won't bother blocking you as it really ain't that important..... 1 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thorgal Posted November 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, vangrop said: We all are individuals with our own opinions. Of course you could find that one with another opinion is a stupid morron, probaly same as what he will think about you. Well one has to be subtile enough to pass an understanding message that the other probably will not understand. Agree that not everyone is gifted or intelligent enough for that. You could als punish the other by the silent treatment, Case closed. But it is not with a waterfall of rules that you will solve this issue. You know rules are the weapons of the weak. Problem is that some make a sport (in group or alone) to get others suspended. The new software auto-generates all input from report buttons from many through algorithms and the software does the rest... I'm not sure if you can make me...let's say...a xxx...without me knowing it... As per post from George : "Please ignore toxic or flaming posts, use the report button instead, is my advise. If toxic members gets reported by many, the algorithm takes care of the rest 😎 I assure you!" 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, mark131v said: I beg to differ, your pedantic infantile multiple whinges is exactly what is wrong with this forum, it's good in a way as often when I see you and some of your cohorts on a thread I just do something more fulfilling like have a walk or take a dump or something. Won't bother blocking you as it really ain't that important..... Thanks for your baiting post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop mak Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 46 minutes ago, bignok said: I think there's an artform to staying 5% within the rules whilst pushing someone 5% over. Practice or knowing a mod helps. If moderators had a lifespan of only 2-3 years, that would make "knowing a mod" void. Moderators doesn't work like that. Each action by mods must be followed by a written reason, hidden for members, Seen by fellow mods and Admins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Shop mak said: If moderators had a lifespan of only 2-3 years, that would make "knowing a mod" void. Moderators doesn't work like that. Each action by mods must be followed by a written reason, hidden for members, Seen by fellow mods and Admins. Arent some 5 to 10 years though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Thorgal said: That's a typical example of : 1. devaluating the original message of a poster 2. continuing repeated persecution on divers topics through guilt tripping and stalking 3. impersonating the AN authority by repeating to adhere to the rules, moderator warning, etc...to legalize the future report function and to generate a virtual warning Indeed, you've hit the nail on the head. Another poster I have on ignore who continues to reply to my posts. A block feature would immediately fix him and his ilk. If someone follows me in real life, after I'd asked them to stay away, they'd get a punch on the nose. Here, these trolls think it's their God-given right to stalk others as it's a public forum. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, mark131v said: I beg to differ, your pedantic infantile multiple whinges is exactly what is wrong with this forum, it's good in a way as often when I see you and some of your cohorts on a thread I just do something more fulfilling like have a walk or take a dump or something. Won't bother blocking you as it really ain't that important..... You'd rather publicly defame him to make yourself seem superior. If you don't like someone's posts ignore them. Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Indeed, you've hit the nail on the head. Another poster I have on ignore who continues to reply to my posts. A block feature would immediately fix him and his ilk. If someone follows me in real life, after I'd asked them to stay away, they'd get a punch on the nose. Here, these trolls think it's their God-given right to stalk others as it's a public forum. My 2 trolls have gone very quiet of late. But u are right. In real life someone who ignores you would get hit sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sipi Posted November 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) I've started a few threads on sleep apnea, indoor skydiving, free masonry, flight sims... But they haven't really taken off which doesn't bother me. I just chuck it into the mix and see what happens, which is usually nothing. Edit,.. Seems threads about getting pissed every day are more mainstream. That also suits me. Edited November 11, 2023 by sipi 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted November 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Indeed, you've hit the nail on the head. Another poster I have on ignore who continues to reply to my posts. A block feature would immediately fix him and his ilk. If someone follows me in real life, after I'd asked them to stay away, they'd get a punch on the nose. Here, these trolls think it's their God-given right to stalk others as it's a public forum. Somebody needs a group hug.🥱 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted November 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, bignok said: Thanks for your baiting post. It's a bit rich you talking about baiting and trolling when you are in the forefront of both. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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