Family friendly resort?

[sambum]

Why do the authorities persist in promoting Pattaya as a "Family Friendly" resort when it appears that 90% of all crimes against visitors to Thailand appear to be committed in this world renowned "Hub of Entertainment"?

 

 

 

[bignok]

Pattaya is a city not a resort. 

 

 

[Swiss1960]

Post by a Pattaya hater, he probably never was here 

[impulse]

33 minutes ago, sambum said:

Why do the authorities persist in promoting Pattaya as a "Family Friendly" resort when it appears that 90% of all crimes against visitors to Thailand appear to be committed in this world renowned "Hub of Entertainment"?

 

It's family friendly.  Most families don't wander around at 3:00AM when most of those crimes seem to take place.

 

Not quite Pattaya, but I loved staying in a very family oriented resort on the beach in Jomtien.  Never had any issues.  Of course, I was asnooze by about 11:00 PM.

 

[sambum]

26 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

It's family friendly.  Most families don't wander around at 3:00AM when most of those crimes seem to take place.

 

Not quite Pattaya, but I loved staying in a very family oriented resort on the beach in Jomtien.  Never had any issues.  Of course, I was asnooze by about 11:00 PM.

 

Point taken about the timing of the crimes - probably because a lot of people's senses are dulled by copious amounts of alcohol! 

 

And I have a pal who lives in Jomtien why loves it, but as you say - that is not Pattaya, where most of the crimes seem to take place! I've been there once and stayed for 3 days, which I enjoyed, but I was in the company of some "old hands" and managed to get through unscathed due I am sure to my  friends' advice re keeping your money and jewelry (watches etc) out of sight.

However, I won't be rushing to go back, and it is not what I would personally call a "Family Friendly" resort!

Edited November 11, 2023 by sambum

[sambum]

1 hour ago, bignok said:

Pattaya is a city not a resort. 

 

 

 

Bit pedantic - I'm sure you are intelligent enough to get my point though?

[sambum]

38 minutes ago, Swiss1960 said:

Post by a Pattaya hater, he probably never was here 

 

Wrong - see my later post!

[bbko]

Plenty of places for families to visit, eat, shop.  Just avoid the bars.

[bignok]

37 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

Bit pedantic - I'm sure you are intelligent enough to get my point though?

Bad city attracts bad people

[KannikaP]

16 minutes ago, bbko said:

Plenty of places for families to visit, eat, shop.  Just avoid the bars.

And for the rest of the week's holiday????

[zzaa09]

Family Friendly. 

What exactly does this mean? Or implied? 

 

 

[bbko]

Just now, KannikaP said:

And for the rest of the week's holiday????

Beaches, movies, shopping malls, parks, water parks, Million stone park, crocodile farm, elephant parks, Noong Nuch garden, islands, those monthly events like firework shows/concerts/festivals, 1000's of restaurants, etc.

[KannikaP]

2 minutes ago, bbko said:

Beaches, movies, shopping malls, parks, water parks, Million stone park, crocodile farm, elephant parks, Noong Nuch garden, islands, those monthly events like firework shows/concerts/festivals, 1000's of restaurants, etc.

One beach is very much like any other, you get sand everywhere if you can get to it,

Movies?.....millions available on line, and after 90 minutes in a cold cinema?....

Parks...555, water parks are good for kids if not safe for them, after you have seen Million Stone Park and Nong Nooch, for which you will pay way over the top,

Crocodiles and elehpants........cruelty to animals,

Fireworks about twice a year adding to air pollution,

Shows, concerts...mostly deafening, festivals ie Song Kran and Loy Kratong, OK if you are a water-loving Buddhist,

You can only eat in restaurants a maximum of 3 times a day but spend HOURS deciding on which one to eat in, only to be possibly disappointed.

Stay at home, cook yourself, watch telly, put some sand on your lawn, get a pet croc or elephant, 

Have I been here too long or speak the truth?

[champers]

Hard Rock, Avani and many others are family oriented resort hotels. Pattaya is all things to all people.

[sambum]

1 hour ago, zzaa09 said:

Family Friendly. 

What exactly does this mean? Or implied? 

 

 

 

It means (to my mind) that it is a "place" where the locals are welcoming to families, that there are ample facilities for children to play and enjoy themselves safely, and that all families - adults and children alike will be safe from harassment and uncalled for attention - and that should also apply to when the sun goes down!!!

[sambum]

2 hours ago, bbko said:

Plenty of places for families to visit, eat, shop.  Just avoid the bars.

 

Plenty of other more appropriate places for families to visit - full stop!

[sambum]

1 hour ago, champers said:

Hard Rock, Avani and many others are family oriented resort hotels. Pattaya is all things to all people.

 

"Hard Rock" is not a name that implies a "family friendly" hotel to me!!! More like a "Hairy Bikers" meets "Hells Angels" meets "70's music aficionados" type of establishment!!!

[sambum]

3 hours ago, bignok said:

Pattaya is a city not a resort. 

 

 

From Google:- 

 

"Pattaya is a popular Beach resort on the Gulf of Thailand, just 150 km southeast of Bangkok –a mere two-hour drive. Pattaya's pulsating NIGHTLIFE is well known, but  Local authorities have, in recent years, improved the quality of the beaches and reinvented the resort as a more family-friendly destination."

 

I am not denying that Pattaya is a city, or that Google is  ALWAYS correct, but I would suggest that the above is a fair description?

[bignok]

Don't go there. Some love it, some hate it.

[champers]

1 hour ago, sambum said:

 

"Hard Rock" is not a name that implies a "family friendly" hotel to me!!! More like a "Hairy Bikers" meets "Hells Angels" meets "70's music aficionados" type of establishment!!!

It has lots of activities especially tailored for children. Your idea what it is is completely made up balderdash.

[kinyara]

The crimes reported on here tend to be centered around the nightlife areas and the late hours it operates, which is probably why you don't read about families being the victims of crime. I suspect families enjoy perfectly safe holidays in Pattaya doing whatever activities families choose to do, and from what I've seen Thai people tend to make a fuss in a good way of foreign children and are very welcoming.

[sambum]

1 hour ago, champers said:

It has lots of activities especially tailored for children. Your idea what it is is completely made up balderdash.

 

Don't misquote me! I said that the name IMPLIED something - not that's what it is/was (TISWAS?)

[bbko]

7 hours ago, KannikaP said:

One beach is very much like any other, you get sand everywhere if you can get to it,

Movies?.....millions available on line, and after 90 minutes in a cold cinema?....

Parks...555, water parks are good for kids if not safe for them, after you have seen Million Stone Park and Nong Nooch, for which you will pay way over the top,

Crocodiles and elehpants........cruelty to animals,

Fireworks about twice a year adding to air pollution,

Shows, concerts...mostly deafening, festivals ie Song Kran and Loy Kratong, OK if you are a water-loving Buddhist,

You can only eat in restaurants a maximum of 3 times a day but spend HOURS deciding on which one to eat in, only to be possibly disappointed.

Stay at home, cook yourself, watch telly, put some sand on your lawn, get a pet croc or elephant, 

Have I been here too long or speak the truth?

Ok, so in your mind those places I listed are NOT family friendly, ok I get it.  Can you please post some places that are family friendly in your opinion?

[JimTripper]

because they are stupid

[Sigmund]

What they mean is that 110% of the establishments in Pattaya are "guest friendly" brothels hotels. Very, very surprising indeed.

[jacko45k]

11 hours ago, bbko said:

Plenty of places for families to visit, eat, shop.  Just avoid the bars.

Of course there are, Nong Nooch, Dolphinarium, Ramayana, Tiffany, Sanctuary of Truth, Island Tours, T21 , Mini Siam, Elephant Village, etc etc are not aimed at pxss heads from  Millwall. 

[KannikaP]

5 hours ago, bbko said:

Ok, so in your mind those places I listed are NOT family friendly, ok I get it.  Can you please post some places that are family friendly in your opinion?

That was my personal opinion. So, yes, those places are all family friendly for many families.

[newnative]

12 hours ago, sambum said:

Point taken about the timing of the crimes - probably because a lot of people's senses are dulled by copious amounts of alcohol! 

 

And I have a pal who lives in Jomtien why loves it, but as you say - that is not Pattaya, where most of the crimes seem to take place! I've been there once and stayed for 3 days, which I enjoyed, but I was in the company of some "old hands" and managed to get through unscathed due I am sure to my  friends' advice re keeping your money and jewelry (watches etc) out of sight.

However, I won't be rushing to go back, and it is not what I would personally call a "Family Friendly" resort!

     Once again, as stated already by another member, Pattaya is not a 'resort'   When I saw your thread title, I thought it would be for resort recommendations.  You weren't asking, but I would recommend Centara in Wong Amat if you want a resort.  Very nice, and 'family friendly'.  Centre Point Space recently opened in North Pattaya and it is also geared toward families.  Pattaya is a big city.  Jomtien, Cosy Beach, South Pattaya, Wong Amat, Pratamnak, Naklua, The Darkside, etc., are all part of greater Pattaya. 

     The bar/go-go adult entertainment areas are mainly in certain areas of center city Pattaya, which, again, is just another area of greater Pattaya.  Soi 6, for example, is just one block, easily avoided.  I, by the way, am a Pattaya resident, living on The Darkside with my spouse.  We are often in the center city area to shop, eat, or see a movie at one of the big malls.  At spots all over Pattaya, we can use one of the hospital choices, or find somethng we need at the good selection of big box retail avaiable in Pattaya, such as Index, Boonthavorn, Home Pro, Mega, Chic Republic, Big C Extra, etc..

     As a big city, yes, there will be some crime.  I feel safer here than I did in the large American town I lived in.  As noted, a lot of the Pattaya crime seems to take place in the wee hours of the morning.  Each incident, and I don't think there have been that many for a big city, seems to be played up by Asean Now as a big news event.  Someone mugged and their cell phone stolen or gold chain snatched would likely not get even a mention by the news in any American city of similar size.  Here, it's always the headline on AN, which leaves the false mpression that crime is a big problem in Pattaya.  It's not. 

    If you ever get to Pattaya again, maybe venture out a bit--there's a lot more to Pattaya than just the small areas you visited. You'll likely find out why your pal, who lives in the Jomtien area of Pattaya, in your words, 'loves it'.  He's just one of many.

[newnative]

11 hours ago, sambum said:

From Google:- 

 

"Pattaya is a popular Beach resort on the Gulf of Thailand, just 150 km southeast of Bangkok –a mere two-hour drive. Pattaya's pulsating NIGHTLIFE is well known, but  Local authorities have, in recent years, improved the quality of the beaches and reinvented the resort as a more family-friendly destination."

 

I am not denying that Pattaya is a city, or that Google is  ALWAYS correct, but I would suggest that the above is a fair description?

    No. It's a dated description, more appropriate to small towns.  Pattaya has grown into a big city; Google just hasn't caught up.  Las Vegas also caters to tourists but I doubt anyone would call it a 'resort'.  Ditto for Orlando, nobody would refer to it as a resort.   Las Vegas is a big city.  And, like Pattaya with its nightlife, it has different areas beyond The Strip.

[KhunLA]

12 hours ago, sambum said:

 

"Hard Rock" is not a name that implies a "family friendly" hotel to me!!! More like a "Hairy Bikers" meets "Hells Angels" meets "70's music aficionados" type of establishment!!!

Don't hurt yourself thinking ...

 

Looks family friendly to me ...

 

Edited November 12, 2023 by KhunLA