siftasam Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I have two relationships at home. One is a wonderful family one with my EX- partner's young daughter. She and her mother have lived in my home for 8 years. I promised that I would support and protect the young girl and it has been a pleasure so to do. The other relationship, with her mother, my EX-partner, is a very bad one. She and I have not been intimate for 6 years. We are not married and have never been 'engaged'. Of course, I house and support her because of her daughter. She takes good care of her daughter but otherwise, of course (?), her main consideration is my money. I do not want her to return to Isaan because she will, naturally, take her daughter with her. Something that I think I read somewhere. Is it correct that if a Thai woman leaves you, or you tell her to go, after living with you for 10 years, that she is 'legally' entitled to a share of your wealth? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post novacova Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, siftasam said: I have two relationships at home. One is a wonderful family one with my EX- partner's young daughter. She and her mother have lived in my home for 8 years. I promised that I would support and protect the young girl and it has been a pleasure so to do. The other relationship, with her mother, my EX-partner, is a very bad one. She and I have not been intimate for 6 years. We are not married and have never been 'engaged'. Of course, I house and support her because of her daughter. She takes good care of her daughter but otherwise, of course (?), her main consideration is my money. I do not want her to return to Isaan because she will, naturally, take her daughter with her. Something that I think I read somewhere. Is it correct that if a Thai woman leaves you, or you tell her to go, after living with you for 10 years, that she is 'legally' entitled to a share of your wealth? There is no common law marriage law here 1 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IvorBiggun2 Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 Been here 18 years and know of no '10 year rule'. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prubangboy Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 4 seconds of googling reveals that common law marriage is not legal in Thailand. You feel powerless, hence this paralyzing depression. You truly are largely powerless in this situation. Much empathy to you. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 No. Defacto relationships are not recognized under Thai law. She has no rights to any of your assets. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jaywalker2 Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 The only problem you might have is in the case of shared property. So you just need to make sure that all your assets are in your name alone. Of course, the lack of a marriage certificate also means you have no legal rights regarding the child. So if the mother decides to take her, there's nothing you can do about it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olav Seglem Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) Do the daughter want to follow her mother, or do she like to stay with you ?? :-) There come a time they can deside for themself, if they are "strongwilled" enough. Edited December 1, 2023 by Olav Seglem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 No, pretty sure that is <deleted> and you are not married in any case. You clearly have a big heart and care for the daughter. Not to chuck my tat onto you, but I would do anything to hang onto someone considered daughter material in such a scenario. Have you considered adoption and bunging the mother for paperwork? 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 13 hours ago, Prubangboy said: 4 seconds of googling reveals that common law marriage is not legal in Thailand. You feel powerless, hence this paralyzing depression. You truly are largely powerless in this situation. Much empathy to you. Correct i googled it too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, jaywalker2 said: ...the lack of a marriage certificate also means you have no legal rights regarding the child. So if the mother decides to take her, there's nothing you can do about it. Th way he has phrased his OP suggests that the girl is not his daughter so, obviously, assuming that the current arrangements remain, he will never have any rights over her. Edited December 1, 2023 by Liverpool Lou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 12 hours ago, Olav Seglem said: Do the daughter want to follow her mother, or do she like to stay with you ?? :-) There come a time they can deside for themself, if they are "strongwilled" enough. That time is when they become an adult . The Mother decides where the Child stays and with whom . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 6 hours ago, daveAustin said: No, pretty sure that is <deleted> and you are not married in any case. You clearly have a big heart and care for the daughter. Not to chuck my tat onto you, but I would do anything to hang onto someone considered daughter material in such a scenario. Have you considered adoption and bunging the mother for paperwork? ...bunging...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsallmine68 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 go ask a lawyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 You have mo rights to the child thst is the chance you take. You mention " bad " some clarification is needed although none as you stated is it a happy family unit? Is there any appreciation as to what you are doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prubangboy Posted December 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) The child is a hostage used to extort cash. And when push comes to shove, the child will side with the mother, not you. Eventually, the mother and the child will leave and/or find another branch to swing to. After 6 years of a worsening situation, it's time to go. I supported someone else's kids for 8 years. Those kids don't speak to me, through no fault of my own. It's a loss, but I got over it. And so will you. Edited December 2, 2023 by Prubangboy 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 the average western union self destructs after 7 years...if you've made 1o years with a Thai lady you qualify to have a Mia noi...didnt you get the email? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) On 12/1/2023 at 9:30 AM, novacova said: There is no common law marriage law here Heads up for UK members who might concern themselves with such matters: "Contrary to popular belief, there is no such thing as a ‘common law marriage’. In England and Wales only people who are married, whether of the same sex or not, or those in civil partnerships can rely on the laws about dividing up finances when they divorce or dissolve their marriage." "If your ex partner owned your home, and there is no other agreement in place, you have no right to stay if they ask you to leave." https://www.familylives.org.uk/advice/your-family/relationship-advice/common-law-marriage Friend of mines daughter just found out the hard way upon the death of her "common law" partner, after 11 years together, with him not having made a will. His family had her out of his flat, that she shared with him, within 48 hours. Edited December 2, 2023 by Enoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Now to start with I am not sure this is correct. I believe there is a 7 year rule regarding children living permanently in your household. I have been living with my mia noi for 18 years while still married to my estranged wife. I have a 16 year old son with my mia noi and her two daughters from a previous marriage who are now adults of course, I have no children with my wife. When my step daughters were still children I used to sign various documents regarding their school, when I mentioned to their teacher, who is a family friend, that as I am not the biological father of the two girls I shouldn't be signing the documents and their mother could do it instead, the teacher said that I have the right to do so as the children had been in my household for longer than 7 years which gave me certain rights over them but also responsibilities. How far these rights extended I never asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish star Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Just don’t marry No common law marriage but the court may look at it differently lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgMech Cowboy Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Yap, yap, yap all you want, but there is precedence now in the Thai court system. Go find a good attorney. @siftasam https://thai369.com/en/a-danner-wins-a-process-against-his-thailand-wife-for-not-sharing-his-goods/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lister Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Pickup trucks and women, trade them both in within ten years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 6 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said: Yap, yap, yap all you want, but there is precedence now in the Thai court system. Go find a good attorney. @siftasam https://thai369.com/en/a-danner-wins-a-process-against-his-thailand-wife-for-not-sharing-his-goods/ Link duly noted.............with thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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