Trump, allies fire back at media warnings of second-term dictatorship

[illisdean]

3 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Please add the awarding by Fox News to the insurmountable lying about the fraud to you dumb assesment.

“More than 20% of voters who used mail-in ballots in 2020 admit they participated in at least one form of election fraud.”

How many more did not admit it? So much for the 2020 election being the “most secure in history.”

 

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/one_in_five_mail_in_voters_admit_they_cheated_in_2020_election

 

Based on Biden's polling lower than a slithering reptile, It will be challenging for those states to “find” enough ballots to overcome such a lead after they halt vote counting at 10 p.m. on election night to assess Biden’s deficit and figure out a way to reverse that by the time ballot counting resumes the next day.

Biden is losing to Trump ....BADLY NOW. 

 

[illisdean]

3 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Please add the awarding by Fox News to the insurmountable lying about the fraud to you dumb assesment.

Award winning, perhaps yes. Can you show me if this FOX poll is fraud? 

I didn't think so. It's just a dumb "assesment"  but only for Biden supporters/losers.

Pretty dumb, for biden and his bidenites when your own party wants you GONE. LOL.

Wouldn't you agree?

 

 

[illisdean]

3 hours ago, Tug said:

That’s not an assessment it’s what rational people call magical thinking or if you prefer trolling or deliberate misinformation it’s obviously bull……

These are polls, some conducted by FOX news, some by Monmouth, RCP, Quinipiac, NBC/ABC/WAPO others and FOX as well as other media outlets report the results. They are not "bull", they are not fraud, it's the reporting of the grim reality for people like you who prefer to "attack" the message, the messenger, attack anything that shows Biden's failures since he's obviously inferior to a much better liked and higher approved Trump. 

Biden's getting trashed by a much superior adversary and it sucks for you and many others so you resort to lame and intellectually incoherent attacks, because you have NOTHING, same as the big NOTHING Biden has to run on except calling Trump evil. Biden has failed miserably, the voters have taken notice and it shows in the polls. 

 

 

 

 

[illisdean]

3 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Please add the awarding by Fox News to the insurmountable lying about the fraud to you dumb assesment.

ha ha ha, Bidenites are all so familiar with the "dumb" concept, huh, Earl.

[Tug]

15 minutes ago, illisdean said:

ha ha ha, Bidenites are all so familiar with the "dumb" concept, huh, Earl.

Awww look at the cute new label lol 😂 I know it’s hard on the retrumplikans to stomach the stellar stockmarket or the outstanding employment data inflation coming down the country moving forward gotta be tough on you guys 

[Georgealbert]

3 minutes ago, Tug said:

Awww look at the cute new label lol 😂 I know it’s hard on the retrumplikans to stomach the stellar stockmarket or the outstanding employment data inflation coming down the country moving forward gotta be tough on you guys 

Please stop trying to give facts to that troll, who is so far down the rabbit hole they will not/can not  or refuse to listen to anything unless endorsed by their trump god.

 

It is impossible to have a sensible debate with a QAnon conspiracy theory, fox news reader, who never thinks they are wrong.

 

I am getting to the point of thinking it is best to leave them to their name calling, trolling, mutual kite flying to Trump, and stop feeding them comments.

[Danderman123]

37 minutes ago, illisdean said:

These are polls, some conducted by FOX news, some by Monmouth, RCP, Quinipiac, NBC/ABC/WAPO others and FOX as well as other media outlets report the results. They are not "bull", they are not fraud, it's the reporting of the grim reality for people like you who prefer to "attack" the message, the messenger, attack anything that shows Biden's failures since he's obviously inferior to a much better liked and higher approved Trump. 

Biden's getting trashed by a much superior adversary and it sucks for you and many others so you resort to lame and intellectually incoherent attacks, because you have NOTHING, same as the big NOTHING Biden has to run on except calling Trump evil. Biden has failed miserably, the voters have taken notice and it shows in the polls. 

 

Only a low information type would get excited about polls taken this early in the campaign. Wait until Labor day.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

“More than 20% of voters who used mail-in ballots in 2020 admit they participated in at least one form of election fraud.”

How many more did not admit it? So much for the 2020 election being the “most secure in history.”

 

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/one_in_five_mail_in_voters_admit_they_cheated_in_2020_election

 

Based on Biden's polling lower than a slithering reptile, It will be challenging for those states to “find” enough ballots to overcome such a lead after they halt vote counting at 10 p.m. on election night to assess Biden’s deficit and figure out a way to reverse that by the time ballot counting resumes the next day.

Biden is losing to Trump ....BADLY NOW. 

 

your world view is based on one poll? Really?

 

So 20% of respondents are Trump fans claiming they committed mail in vote fraud.

 

Clearly, they don't know about signature matching or other techniques used to detect fraud.

[candide]

2 hours ago, illisdean said:

“More than 20% of voters who used mail-in ballots in 2020 admit they participated in at least one form of election fraud.”

How many more did not admit it? So much for the 2020 election being the “most secure in history.”

 

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/one_in_five_mail_in_voters_admit_they_cheated_in_2020_election

 

Based on Biden's polling lower than a slithering reptile, It will be challenging for those states to “find” enough ballots to overcome such a lead after they halt vote counting at 10 p.m. on election night to assess Biden’s deficit and figure out a way to reverse that by the time ballot counting resumes the next day.

Biden is losing to Trump ....BADLY NOW. 

 

The same dishonest argument again! As it has been already mentioned to you:

- they did it for a friend or family member,

- more of them were Republicans than Democrats.

Posting the same B.S. over and over will not make it true! 🤣

[illisdean]

3 hours ago, candide said:

The same dishonest argument again! As it has been already mentioned to you:

- they did it for a friend or family member,

- more of them were Republicans than Democrats.

Posting the same B.S. over and over will not make it true! 🤣

Its nothing remotely close to "BS" as you beleive and try to make other beleive.

 

 "Both voting in a state where you are no longer a permanent resident and forging a signature on a ballot or ballot envelope are fraudulent activities that invalidate votes, when caught by election officials."

 

Simple, it's voter fraud, plain and simple and it's illegal. Many countries ban vote by mail for obvious reasons even you should understand.

[candide]

11 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Its nothing remotely close to "BS" as you beleive and try to make other beleive.

 

 "Both voting in a state where you are no longer a permanent resident and forging a signature on a ballot or ballot envelope are fraudulent activities that invalidate votes, when caught by election officials."

 

Simple, it's voter fraud, plain and simple and it's illegal. Many countries ban vote by mail for obvious reasons even you should understand.

It's technically fraud, however it does not mean that Biden has not been fairly elected as you falsely claimed. 

- most of them did it for convenience, not with fraudulent intent. If you fill in a ballot for your wife with her agreement, It's not really fraud,

- there is a higher percentage of Republican voters than Democrats who did it. So following your own reasoning, the so-called fraud actually benefited Trump, not Biden.

As usual, you are picking and distorting facts.

 

As Barr did phrase it, the conspiracy theory that Biden has been fraudulently elected and that Trump actually won is "bull<deleted>"!

 

[illisdean]

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Only a low information type would get excited about polls taken this early in the campaign. Wait until Labor day.

Biden will be in an old folks special care facility wearing diapers and eating pudding by labor day. 

[illisdean]

42 minutes ago, candide said:

t's technically fraud,

Exactly. it's fraud. The expectations for fair elections are unlikely with mail-in ballots. Mail in ballots are subject to dumping, counting that goes on for days or weeks, ballot harvesting and voter identity is difficult if not impossible to confirm. Countless organizations and experts understand this problem including some Democrats before they went Communist. Modern Democrats have produced a voting system subject to mass fraud.

 

"Why Do Most Countries Ban Mail-In Ballots?: They Have Seen Massive Vote Fraud Problems"

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3666259

 

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

21 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Exactly. it's fraud. The expectations for fair elections are unlikely with mail-in ballots. Mail in ballots are subject to dumping, counting that goes on for days or weeks, ballot harvesting and voter identity is difficult if not impossible to confirm. Countless organizations and experts understand this problem including some Democrats before they went Communist. Modern Democrats have produced a voting system subject to mass fraud.

 

"Why Do Most Countries Ban Mail-In Ballots?: They Have Seen Massive Vote Fraud Problems"

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3666259

 

Mail in voting is very commonly used by people in Australia and have done all my life. I doubt the veracity of your claim. Your link provides no evidence, only allegations.

[candide]

27 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Exactly. it's fraud. The expectations for fair elections are unlikely with mail-in ballots. Mail in ballots are subject to dumping, counting that goes on for days or weeks, ballot harvesting and voter identity is difficult if not impossible to confirm. Countless organizations and experts understand this problem including some Democrats before they went Communist. Modern Democrats have produced a voting system subject to mass fraud.

 

"Why Do Most Countries Ban Mail-In Ballots?: They Have Seen Massive Vote Fraud Problems"

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3666259

 

 

 

 

A 2021 PNAS study by political scientists at Stanford University and the University of Chicago rebutted Lott's paper as being not even remotely convincing, writing that his analysis was "entirely dependent on the completely arbitrary order in which pairs of precincts in other counties are entered in the dataset" and that his conclusions about voter fraud were "utterly baseless."[72][73][74]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott

 

Anyway, come  back when you have proof of the ridiculous conspiracy theories that Biden has not been fairly elected! .

 

BTW, don't truncate my posts to change their meaning

[illisdean]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Only a low information type would get excited about polls taken this early in the campaign. Wait until Labor day.

"At the same time, whenever polling emerges showing that Donald Trump is performing well in 2024 matchups, a deluge of panicked articles, tweets (or is it “X”s?), social media posts, and the like emerge, reassuring readers that polls aren’t predictive and providing a variety of reasons that things will improve for President Biden."

 

Biden will not even be running, except for the toilet after soiling his britches.

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/11/28/no_really_biden_is_in_trouble_against_trump.html

[illisdean]

19 minutes ago, candide said:

A 2021 PNAS study by political scientists at Stanford University and the University of Chicago rebutted Lott's paper as being not even remotely convincing, writing that his analysis was "entirely dependent on the completely arbitrary order in which pairs of precincts in other counties are entered in the dataset" and that his conclusions about voter fraud were "utterly baseless."[72][73][74]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott

 

Anyway, come  back when you have proof of the ridiculous conspiracy theories that Biden has not been fairly elected! .

 

BTW, don't truncate my posts to change their meaning

By a margin of 52% to 40%, voters believe that “cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 U.S. presidential election.” That’s per a Rasmussen Reports survey from this month. This stands in stark contrast to the countless news stories editorializing about “no evidence of voter fraud” and “the myth of voter fraud.”

 

Many exampled of irregular ballots, voter and ballot fraud in 2020 election. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/almost-third-americans-still-believe-2020-election-result-was-fraudule-rcna90145

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/03/28/new_peer-reviewed_research_finds_evidence_of_2020_voter_fraud_147378.html#!

"More than 40% of Americans still do not believe that Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 presidential election despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud, according to a new Axios-Momentive poll."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/05/america-biden-election-2020-poll-victory

[candide]

12 minutes ago, illisdean said:

"At the same time, whenever polling emerges showing that Donald Trump is performing well in 2024 matchups, a deluge of panicked articles, tweets (or is it “X”s?), social media posts, and the like emerge, reassuring readers that polls aren’t predictive and providing a variety of reasons that things will improve for President Biden."

 

Biden will not even be running, except for the toilet after soiling his britches.

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/11/28/no_really_biden_is_in_trouble_against_trump.html

And MAGA fans were doing exactly the same when Biden was leading Trump in previous polls! 😅

[candide]

7 minutes ago, illisdean said:

By a margin of 52% to 40%, voters believe that “cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 U.S. presidential election.” That’s per a Rasmussen Reports survey from this month. This stands in stark contrast to the countless news stories editorializing about “no evidence of voter fraud” and “the myth of voter fraud.”

 

Many exampled of irregular ballots, voter and ballot fraud in 2020 election. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/almost-third-americans-still-believe-2020-election-result-was-fraudule-rcna90145

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/03/28/new_peer-reviewed_research_finds_evidence_of_2020_voter_fraud_147378.html#!

"More than 40% of Americans still do not believe that Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 presidential election despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud, according to a new Axios-Momentive poll."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/05/america-biden-election-2020-poll-victory

The fact that there are 40% of morons or uninformed people is no proof of rigged elections!

[candide]

5 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Here's untruncated just for you.

 

https://hereistheevidence.com/

Here's the evidence! Lol!

If there's evidence why don't they bring it to courts or election commissions? 😅

[illisdean]

5 minutes ago, candide said:

The fact that there are 40% of morons or uninformed people is no proof of rigged elections!

lol

 

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53 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Exactly. it's fraud. The expectations for fair elections are unlikely with mail-in ballots. Mail in ballots are subject to dumping, counting that goes on for days or weeks, ballot harvesting and voter identity is difficult if not impossible to confirm. Countless organizations and experts understand this problem including some Democrats before they went Communist. Modern Democrats have produced a voting system subject to mass fraud.

 

"Why Do Most Countries Ban Mail-In Ballots?: They Have Seen Massive Vote Fraud Problems"

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3666259

 

 

 

 

Here are nine investigations on voter fraud that found virtually nothing

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/25/here-are-nine-major-investigations-on-voter-fraud-that-found-virtually-nothing/

 

Investigation finds only 475 cases of potential voter fraud in battleground states won by Biden

https://fortune.com/2021/12/14/trump-voter-fraud-investigation-biden-battleground-states-only-475-potential-voter-fraud-cases/

 

And as I pointed out earlier, one of the main reasons ERIC exists is to make sure voters only vote in 1 state. Of course, Republicans are now pulling out of it because, well, the truth hurts.

[illisdean]

 

14 minutes ago, candide said:

And MAGA fans were doing exactly the same when Biden was leading Trump in previous polls! 😅

Obama says Biden could lose. 

 

https://news.yahoo.com/obama-reportedly-fears-biden-could-114754129.html

[candide]

1 minute ago, illisdean said:

Do you even have a clue what happened in the courts?

Yes, I followed it at that time (the Kraken and similar B.S.). Most cases did not even make it to courts, and when considered, claims have been rejected, by both Republican leaning and Democrat leaning judges.. Multiple audits and recounts have also been conducted, and did not find any significant fraud.

 

As to Trumps lawyers, they have been punished for frivolous behaviour, and, for most of them, have acknowledged they had no evidence.

 

I remember MAGA fans getting excited every time a complaint was filed, and after it failed, they just disappeared. 

 

So you still have nothing, after, 3 years,

[rattlesnake]

The only dictatorship I remember in recent years was when the people were forced to inject themselves with a dubious substance, under the guise of Covid, in order to be able to enjoy basic freedoms. The name of the dictator in charge at that time was Joe Biden.

[Lacessit]

"Dems & their media allies have given up on debating issues & have shifted to name-calling & rhetorical fearmongering,”

 

And here was I thinking Trump had the patent on those attributes.

[Peabody]

51 minutes ago, candide said:

If there's evidence why don't they bring it to courts or election commissions? 😅

Didn't they do that like 50-60 times already? Too bad we can't find out the result of those cases.  /s

 

[Georgealbert]

8 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

The only dictatorship I remember in recent years was when the people were forced to inject themselves with a dubious substance, under the guise of Covid, in order to be able to enjoy basic freedoms. The name of the dictator in charge at that time was Joe Biden.

So Operation Warp Speed was not started by Trump? Or yes I jnow, just more selective facts again, from a Conspiracy theory nu###b.

[rattlesnake]

1 hour ago, Georgealbert said:

So Operation Warp Speed was not started by Trump? Or yes I jnow, just more selective facts again, from a Conspiracy theory nu###b.

 

Please explain your suggested link between Warp Speed and vaccine mandates.

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

The only dictatorship I remember in recent years was when the people were forced to inject themselves with a dubious substance, under the guise of Covid, in order to be able to enjoy basic freedoms. The name of the dictator in charge at that time was Joe Biden.

Were you forced to get vaccinated? Did someone come to your house and drag you to the clinic?