Popular Post AddyA Posted December 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2023 Negative Health Effects of Wearing Masks According to Research, 2021 Is a Mask That Covers the Mouth and Nose Free from Undesirable Side Effects in Everyday Use and Free of Potential Hazards? By Kai Kisielinski, Paul Giboni, Andreas Presche, Bernd Klosterhalfen, David Graessel, Stefan Funken, Oliver Kempski and Oliver Hirsch. Here's a summary from the said paper, but feel free to read it in its entirety: https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/18/8/4344 This study analyzes 65 scientific papers on the negative health effects of wearing masks. 44 of these papers demonstrate statistically significant negative effects, including, but not limited to the following: PHYSICAL: Elevated blood carbon dioxide (CO2): This can lead to headaches, respiratory irritation, increased blood pressure, and heart rate. Decreased blood oxygen saturation (SpO2): This can cause fatigue, confusion, and impaired thinking. Increased heart rate Increased respiratory rate Skin temperature rise under the mask Difficulty breathing Dizziness Listlessness Impaired thinking Concentration problems PSYCHOLOGICAL: Confusion Decreased thinking ability Disorientation Impaired cognitive abilities Decreased psychomotoric abilities OTHER: Interference with temperature regulation Impaired field of vision Impaired non-verbal and verbal communication These negative effects are observed with all types of masks, including surgical, N95, and community masks. The study concludes that wearing masks can have long-term health consequences, even if the effects are not immediately noticeable. Key Points: 44 out of 65 studies found statistically significant negative effects of wearing masks. Negative effects include increased CO2, decreased SpO2, increased heart rate, respiratory rate, and skin temperature, as well as fatigue, confusion, and impaired thinking. Masks can negatively impact cognitive abilities, temperature regulation, vision, and communication. Long-term health consequences of mask-wearing are possible There will still be some that refute the findings in this study, but umm... well...., y' know! 1 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post James105 Posted December 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2023 12 hours ago, Venom said: We double mask just to be on the safe side. I see no harm in taking the extra precaution. We have had all our boosters, everything is up to date and we will continue to follow the medical experts advice. It takes very little effort even in Thailand to stay safe. It's a shame then that the virus can also enter your system though your eyes completely bypassing your double masking efforts, which would not actually stop the virus from entering anyway unless they are tightly sealed N95 masks that are changed regularly. Do you also follow the medical experts advice about a healthy diet and plenty of exercise or is it just the advice that takes very little effort you prefer to follow? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevey Posted December 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) Anyone who went along with it all was a mug. No Vax here and never wore a mask unless impossible to carry out my business. Got Covid once at the start on the day of Lockdown 2020 in the UK and one week after Omicron was talked about in South Africa in Thailand. Most over blown load of rubbish and still it’s silence about the ‘above average death ‘ still being massive in now in 2023. Edited December 9, 2023 by Stevey 1 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted December 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2023 18 hours ago, rabas said: You are denying Covid (exactly as I described in my post) by saying your immune system and other things you do will protect you. Now you deny denying! What are you afraid of? It is a well-known scientific and medical fact that a strong immune system can ward off any type of virus, much less covid. How am I denying covid by defying the official narrative, and discussing my immune system, diet and general health? I realize that these topics are not permissible in the mainstream media but here? Are you really trying to censor me? Do you work for Big Pharma? 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 18 hours ago, jayboy said: A sentiment quite often expressed during the Covid epidemic, (often accompanied by praise for the drug Ivermectin - now proven to be useless). Many of those propagating this nonsense - relying on immune system, state of mind etc - did not live to tell the tale because Covid killed them. All the evidence fortunately suggests the latest strains are less dangerous - but caution should be advised. Such sillyness. From Med Park Hospital. Worth reading, for those who insist the body has no inherent ability to fight off a virus, flu, or bacterial infection. Immune system nutrient boosting to fight against Covid-19. Our immune system plays a vital role in helping us defend against the novel coronavirus during the current COVID-19 pandemic. However, people may experience nutrient deficiencies or become weakened due to adverse environmental factors such as improper diets, chemicals laden foods, increased bodily free radicals, stress, sleep deprivation, etc. Such factors can debilitate our immune system, worsen our health, and adversely affect our well-being. What happens when our immune system is weak? A weak immune system cannot effectively defend against viruses, bacteria, and free radicals. Hence, if you experience sickness, fatigue, or tiredness, these may be manifestations of a weakened immune system, which can easily lead to infection susceptibility and severe health issues. Typically, white blood cells, antibodies, lymph nodes, and internal organs contribute to our body’s immunity. Therefore, an immunocompromised person will have a high risk of infection, pneumonia, and low immunity due to a weak immune system. https://www.medparkhospital.com/en-US/lifestyles/immune-system-nutrient-boosting-to-fight-against-covid-19 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jing Joe Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 There's now top level research in Australia into delayed insidious more serious side effects after catching Covid, suggesting DONT get Covid even once let alone repeats. Typical old age challenges is the nature of their concerns. Their research involves very high powered MRI. More news to come. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Stevey said: still it’s silence about the ‘above average death ‘ still being massive in now in 2023. Andrew Bridgen brought it up in UK parliament recently + very recent New Zealand health service data on excess deaths from "whistle blower" Barry Young. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jayboy Posted December 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Such sillyness. From Med Park Hospital. Worth reading You appear not to have absorbed or understood the Med Park advice.Those who insisted during the Covid pandemic - often middle aged men - that they were relying on their natural immunity (often paying a terrible price) were simply wrong. The Med Park advice gives those deluded people no support at all.It rather stresses the dangers of a depressed immune system, a message no rational person could deny. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobthegimp Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 1:22 PM, ezzra said: I got 3 jabs and in Australia, so no chance they were just rubbish and still got it, what i'm saying is that for some people in some places are still needed... Your post reminded me of the memes going around on my side of the fence during the time. The Covidians stripped us of our most basic rights, but they gave us some great memes. Remember this one? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevey Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, johng said: Andrew Bridgen brought it up in UK parliament recently + very recent New Zealand health service data on excess deaths from "whistle blower" Barry Young. And both the debates he held were attended by only a few MPs. The rest of the MPs that were elected to represent their constituents stayed away by order of the goverment whips. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour by MPs who we elected to go to parliament and speak and listen on our behalf of the constituents who put them into the job in the first place. The MPs who did not attend were looking out for their own interests so as not to rock any boat that might hinder any future prospects in the future. Cowards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobthegimp Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Aussie cops are licking their chops at the prospect of being able to bash maskless grannies out for a stroll in the park. The cops' families must be very proud. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted December 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, jayboy said: You appear not to have absorbed or understood the Med Park advice.Those who insisted during the Covid pandemic - often middle aged men - that they were relying on their natural immunity (often paying a terrible price) were simply wrong. The Med Park advice gives those deluded people no support at all.It rather stresses the dangers of a depressed immune system, a message no rational person could deny. Thank you for boosting my argument, which specifically is about keeping the immune system strong and healthy and avoiding allowing it to get depressed. There are countless medical and scientific factors involved in maintaining a healthy immune system, many of which are under our direct control. The mainstream media, the CDC, the WHO, the FDA, and especially Big Pharma do not want us to talk about diet, nor obesity, nor lack of exercise, nor any of these external factors that play a tremendous role in keeping the immune system strong, and powerful and allow the body to fight off bacteria, microbes, viruses, flus and many other diseases. Toxicity in the body is an invitation to all of those culprits. In my opinion, a lack of a booster shot or a mask is very minor in comparison. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevey Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 19 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: And 1,000+ people are dying from COVID every week in the U.S. right now, along with 300+ more per week in the U.K., with little mask wearing occurring there despite pleas from the public health authorities. Is that what you're trying to argue should be the examples to be followed? https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United Kingdom https://aseannow.com/topic/1313819-spike-in-covid-cases-as-1000-americans-die-every-week/ No mid to late 40’s engineers are dying from Covid or the effects of contracting Covid on the life threatening condition they already have. I remember at the height of the propaganda when most people had masked profile pics displayed an idiot in a Thai travel FB group I subscribe to decide to blast me for my push back through the whole thing. He said “ I’ve watched you from afar with your heartless comments making light of this terrible dangerous disease. My Mother has just died of Covid “. This guy had a profile that showed him to be well over 60 and by the shape of him he was luck to be still alive. So his mother who surely would have been late seventies had no rights to be still alive anyway. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Toxicity in the body is an invitation to all of those culprits. In my opinion, a lack of a booster shot or a mask is very minor in comparison. Nobody would suggest it is not sensible to keep the immune system in the best possible shape.It is however absurd to argue that Big Pharma conspired to minimise the dangers of obesity and unfitness .That's exactly the kind of conspiracy theory that was prevalent among some during the pandemic, many of whom put their deluded ideas (no vaccinations, no mask, reliance on natural immunity, lots of junk drugs like ivermectin) to the test and are now very physically diminished or dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 8 hours ago, hotchilli said: Did notice a week or so ago all the staff in my local 7-11's have started to wear masks again. Yes, seen that as well in the AIS shop and also with airport/airline staff, so it is safe to assume that employees with high interaction with the public are either following their employer's advice or just doing the mask thing anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, spidermike007 said: It is a well-known scientific and medical fact that a strong immune system can ward off any type of virus, much less covid. How am I denying covid by defying the official narrative, and discussing my immune system, diet and general health? I realize that these topics are not permissible in the mainstream media but here? Are you really trying to censor me? Do you work for Big Pharma? It's well known that a healthy immune system can help fight against microbial disease. Saying it can fight off all viruses is contrary to known science. Our immune systems often have little immunity against new viruses that just crossed from nature (or lab) because we have never been exposed to them. That's how the adaptive immune system works. Little kids spend their time learning new diseases or now days getting lots of vaccines. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post paulikens Posted December 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2023 23 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: I'll "give it a rest" when COVID gives Thailand and the world a rest... Weekly counts of new COVID hospitalizations in Thailand over the past eight weeks (shown in the red boxes below) have quadrupled from 100+ to more than 500 for the most recent week, and have steadily risen for six of the past seven weeks: https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/?dashboard=main @TallGuyJohninBKK I bet you're a barrel of laughs on a night out but then saying that you probably don't go out much. obviously you're cowering behind your sofa. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustyShoes Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Renowned respiratory specialist Dropped a bombshell Sounding the alarm Escalating covid crisis Staggering 545 cases (lol) Unsettling statistics Chilling report Ominous rise Paints a gloomy picture Grim tapestry of afflictions The voice of reason amid the storm Relentless ascent of coronavirus Surpassing the notorious flu Gripping statement Excerpts from his book, "Where There Is No Crisis, Create One".... No wait, what? All that poppycock was in just three paragraphs?!? Sounds like a certain doctor has his PR dept and assorted minions working overtime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustyShoes Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Is Hanuman on par with Buddha? Clearly not. But there's enough national symbolism whereby putting a ridiculous mask on him is disrespectful and a disgrace IMHO. No doubt the same idiotic thinking would put one on Buddha if they could get away with it. Similar to the dolts at the New York, New York hotel/casino in Las Vegas, putting one on the Statue of Liberty, essentially stifling -- if not suffocating -- the symbol of freedom and free speech. Brainlessness is worldwide. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MarkyM3 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) On 12/8/2023 at 8:30 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Hey, it's just 300+ UK COVID deaths per week right now: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United Kingdom "On the death certificate" is the key phrase here. What was the average age of the people involved and what other conditions did they have? Saying "Hey, it's just 300+ UK Covid deaths per week" suggests they were directly due to that. Which isn't the case at all. As someone who primarily been living back in the UK over the past 2 years, aside from a 6 month period in Thailand last year, I can say that no-one gives 2 hoots about C19, public or media, save for the current public enquiry going on which will only benefit the lawyers involved. Masks are pretty much non-existent. People I hear from are talking more about how the lockdown has left future debt of over £400 billion due to the loss of economic activity, furlough schemes and C19 loans being abused - all of which will be paid back by future generations. Meanwhile, the delays in treatment for serious illnesses or missed diagnoses have probably killed a lot of people too - perhaps you can find a stat for that? The lockdowns also missed up kids' education and had adverse social effects on those without close immediate family networks, amongst other things. Interestingly, one of the most vocal critics of lockdown policies I know works as an NHS nurse, though it couldn't be voiced in public as they'd be shut down/sacked. At their hospital, significant hospital resources were set aside for C19 and were hardly getting used, overflowing beds never happened. Neil Ferguson and his 500k a week scaremongering using a carp computer model riddled with rubbish code has a lot to answer for. Meanwhile, lockdown critics - scientific (e.g. Great Barrington signatories) or otherwise - were ruthlessly shut down by the media - they got no air time whatsoever and were treated as quacks. "Won't Get Fooled Again".... Edited December 9, 2023 by MarkyM3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woke to Sounds of Horking Posted December 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2023 14 hours ago, Stevey said: This guy had a profile that showed him to be well over 60 and by the shape of him he was luck to be still alive. So his mother who surely would have been late seventies had no rights to be still alive anyway. What a terribly callous thing to say, especially about the guy's mother. Consider yourself lucky if you never know grief. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) Co-what❓ So what❗❓ Cranking up that tired, old "Covidiocy" scare-mongering campaign🚂 again, it seems. That train has left the station. 🥱 💤 Edited December 9, 2023 by Skeptic7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 11:36 PM, Stargeezr said: When I feel unwell and have to go out into the public areas to get supplies, I wear a mask, as I do not want to spread what ever I have to others. Anti maskers like Bill S, seem to forget that I do not want to catch whatever disease he may have as well. That is My Opinion. Absolutely. Masks help prevent you from spreading whatever you may have to other people. That is why staff in operating theatres wear them. Hand washing, sanitizer and good hygiene practices are what help prevent you from catching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricardo Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 My son just spent an uncomfortable 4-days getting through Covid, he's on a short visit for a family get-together down South, whether he got it there or on the flight down isn't known, but it may well be going-the-rounds here again ? My wife & I first had it end-January 2020, among the first to get it, after it reached Chiang Mai on the daily charter-flights of tourists, direct from the source Wuhan. It was a week-long nasty winter-cold (we thought). Best avoided if you can ! I'll definitely be masking-up for my Christmas-flights back to London, en-route to care for my 93-year-old mother, who has every right to live her full-life despite what some anonymous ignorant plonker on AN might say ! They too will reach that age someday, if they're lucky ! 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marcusb Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 1:37 PM, SpanishExpat said: Well..a few guys in my condo complex never stopped wearing them. Even during workout or in the swimming pool, hardly being able to breath🙄🙄 Whatever, you don't like masks. Fine. Dont make stuff up. The Canadian Women's Hockey team took the gold wearing N95s against Russia who played 2 periods without. The ladies were not complaining at all about breathing. So either you are lying or you have no idea what you are talking about.... could be both I guess. "hardly being able to breathe". grow up 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 19 hours ago, AddyA said: Negative Health Effects of Wearing Masks According to Research, 2021 Is a Mask That Covers the Mouth and Nose Free from Undesirable Side Effects in Everyday Use and Free of Potential Hazards? By Kai Kisielinski, Paul Giboni, Andreas Presche, Bernd Klosterhalfen, David Graessel, Stefan Funken, Oliver Kempski and Oliver Hirsch. Here's a summary from the said paper, but feel free to read it in its entirety: https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/18/8/4344 This study analyzes 65 scientific papers on the negative health effects of wearing masks. 44 of these papers demonstrate statistically significant negative effects, including, but not limited to the following: PHYSICAL: Elevated blood carbon dioxide (CO2): This can lead to headaches, respiratory irritation, increased blood pressure, and heart rate. Decreased blood oxygen saturation (SpO2): This can cause fatigue, confusion, and impaired thinking. Increased heart rate Increased respiratory rate Skin temperature rise under the mask Difficulty breathing Dizziness Listlessness Impaired thinking Concentration problems PSYCHOLOGICAL: Confusion Decreased thinking ability Disorientation Impaired cognitive abilities Decreased psychomotoric abilities OTHER: Interference with temperature regulation Impaired field of vision Impaired non-verbal and verbal communication These negative effects are observed with all types of masks, including surgical, N95, and community masks. The study concludes that wearing masks can have long-term health consequences, even if the effects are not immediately noticeable. Key Points: 44 out of 65 studies found statistically significant negative effects of wearing masks. Negative effects include increased CO2, decreased SpO2, increased heart rate, respiratory rate, and skin temperature, as well as fatigue, confusion, and impaired thinking. Masks can negatively impact cognitive abilities, temperature regulation, vision, and communication. Long-term health consequences of mask-wearing are possible There will still be some that refute the findings in this study, but umm... well...., y' know! Well, don't wear one, Blossom! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 6:13 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Masks only have the potential to work when people actually wear them... It's kind of a somewhat futile exercise to require kids to wear masks in school (if they really were required to wear them) and then have them go maskless after school and while out socializing and at home where family members may have been outside and around others all day without masks. So the entire world should mask up 24/7? You are away with the fairies... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Ricardo said: I'll definitely be masking-up for my Christmas-flights back to London, en-route to care for my 93-year-old mother, who has every right to live her full-life despite what some anonymous ignorant plonker on AN might say ! They too will reach that age someday, if they're lucky ! If you are that worried, why put her at risk at all and get on a flight with all those people? Maybe you should quarantine for a couple of weeks before you meet her again. Hope you have a very merry Christmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actonion Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 How about "The public is advised to obey the law, and drive sensibly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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