So how about that racial profiling!

[Airwolf]

Stopped again by the cops at a checkpoint. Wearing a helmet. They had another farang, no helmet.

 

Meanwhile, Thais driving on by, no problem, some with no helmets.

 

I'm sure this type of racial profiling is all over Asia, just weird that they get a pass.

 

Can you imagine setting up a checkpoint in The US and stopping only Asians!

 

At least stop a few locals so it's not so blatant.

 

Anyway, I know, TIT. 

 

 

[Photoguy21]

The police can do random checks on people same as they can in every other country. If you are totally legal what is the problem?

[ezzra]

Wherever you go now days there's some kind of 'racial profiling' and preferences and not only in Thailand, That's what the world, unfortunately has become..

[stoner]

21 minutes ago, Airwolf said:

Stopped again by the cops at a checkpoint. Wearing a helmet. They had another farang, no helmet.

 

Meanwhile, Thais driving on by, no problem, some with no helmets.

 

I'm sure this type of racial profiling is all over Asia, just weird that they get a pass.

 

Can you imagine setting up a checkpoint in The US and stopping only Asians!

 

At least stop a few locals so it's not so blatant.

 

Anyway, I know, TIT. 

 

 

 

i fail to see what the issue is.......

 

last week on phuket i encountered 3 check points in 2 days. heres how they all went.

 

me...riding up to check point i see it set up. down goes my sun visor on my helmet. as i approach police guy looks at me and waves me through. all 3 times. 

 

keeping in mind at the time i was wearing 

 

faded hoodie from thousands of hours in the sun riding 

cheap finger cut out grab driver gloves

raggedy ass jeans

adda flip flops

 

so yes i was profiled and loved every minute of it. 

[Airwolf]

10 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Wherever you go now days there's some kind of 'racial profiling' and preferences and not only in Thailand, That's what the world, unfortunately has become..

 

The difference is, when there's racial profiling in the West, it's usually discussed and condemned, whether that's in the media or social media. 

 

[Airwolf]

22 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

The police can do random checks on people same as they can in every other country. If you are totally legal what is the problem?

 

Yes, but if police in Western countries targeted a specific race, that wouldn't be tolerated.

[Photoguy21]

Just now, Airwolf said:

 

Yes, but if police in Western countries targeted a specific race, that wouldn't be tolerated.

Of course, in the West there are a lot of snowflakes who are offended by a change in weather but that doesn't make it right. I have been stopped in a car in the UK for no reason and I had no problem with that. If you look for problems you will find them.

[Airwolf]

8 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

i fail to see what the issue is.......

 

last week on phuket i encountered 3 check points in 2 days. heres how they all went.

 

me...riding up to check point i see it set up. down goes my sun visor on my helmet. as i approach police guy looks at me and waves me through. all 3 times. 

 

keeping in mind at the time i was wearing 

 

faded hoodie from thousands of hours in the sun riding 

cheap finger cut out grab driver gloves

raggedy ass jeans

adda flip flops

 

so yes i was profiled and loved every minute of it. 

 

Not sure a local disguise would even work, I work out and am twice their size.

 

Maybe if I had a family on the bike with no helmets...

[Airwolf]

2 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Of course, in the West there are a lot of snowflakes who are offended by a change in weather but that doesn't make it right. I have been stopped in a car in the UK for no reason and I had no problem with that. If you look for problems you will find them.

 

I wouldn't consider being offended by racial profiling as being woke, but each to their own I guess.

[JoseThailand]

39 minutes ago, Airwolf said:

Stopped again by the cops at a checkpoint. Wearing a helmet. They had another farang, no helmet.

 

Meanwhile, Thais driving on by, no problem, some with no helmets.

 

I'm sure this type of racial profiling is all over Asia, just weird that they get a pass.

 

Can you imagine setting up a checkpoint in The US and stopping only Asians!

 

At least stop a few locals so it's not so blatant.

 

Anyway, I know, TIT. 

 

You don't get it. They give tourists special treatment to ensure their safety. They don't need tourist deaths on the roads. That's why they check for helmets, license, etc. If some Thai crashes to death, that's their own problem. But every foreigner death is a bad publicity for Thailand.

[Woof999]

5 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Of course, in the West there are a lot of snowflakes who are offended by a change in weather but that doesn't make it right. I have been stopped in a car in the UK for no reason and I had no problem with that. If you look for problems you will find them.

 

Imagine being stopped in your car every week, the only difference between you and people not stopped being the colour of your skin.

 

I get why racial profiling might happen. I also get why those profiled to inconvenience are way past the point of just irritated.

[stoner]

7 minutes ago, Airwolf said:

 

Not sure a local disguise would even work, I work out and am twice their size.

 

Maybe if I had a family on the bike with no helmets...

 

your size wont matter they aren't that quick. 

[bob smith]

when you see a police checkpoint on the horizon just turn around and pull into a coffee shop.

 

that's what I do, especially if I'm drunk...

[Purdey]

I guess white cops in the US never discriminate against blacks and Latinos but I could be wrong. If you are wearing a helmet, then having a license is the next thing to check. Lots of tourists hire bikes without a valid license.

[LikeItHot]

45 minutes ago, Airwolf said:

Stopped again by the cops at a checkpoint. Wearing a helmet. They had another farang, no helmet.

 

Meanwhile, Thais driving on by, no problem, some with no helmets.

 

I'm sure this type of racial profiling is all over Asia, just weird that they get a pass.

 

Can you imagine setting up a checkpoint in The US and stopping only Asians!

 

At least stop a few locals so it's not so blatant.

 

Anyway, I know, TIT. 

 

 

I know the deal by now so try to be prepared for checkpoints.  Once I came to stop at a red light and my front wheel touched the crosswalk.  You know, where all the Thais pull up in front of the cars waiting at the light? A crosswalk in an area that would never be traveled by pedestrians mind you.  A squadron of police jumped in front of me and started shouting and pointing.  I thought my bike was on fire from the drama.  I finally realized it was the front wheel touching paint causing all the fuss.  I didn't fight, handed over my license and was actually joking around with the cops who all had a laugh.  I then asked the boss how much the ticket was and the mood suddenly changed.  He threatened to charge me with bribery and demanded to search my bike.  He was obviously furious that I didn't care about the 500 baht and didn't bow down and beg.  You can't win with the brown clowns. 

[Airwolf]

17 minutes ago, JoseThailand said:

 

You don't get it. They give tourists special treatment to ensure their safety. They don't need tourist deaths on the roads. That's why they check for helmets, license, etc. If some Thai crashes to death, that's their own problem. But every foreigner death is a bad publicity for Thailand.

 

They give you a receipt after they've got their money so you can drive around with no helmet for 3 days with no helmet or license.

 

So they can literally stop you while wearing a helmet, and you can drive without it for 3 days if you like.

 

Maybe your reply was a joke? Hard to tell sometimes on here.

[LikeItHot]

11 minutes ago, Purdey said:

I guess white cops in the US never discriminate against blacks and Latinos but I could be wrong. If you are wearing a helmet, then having a license is the next thing to check. Lots of tourists hire bikes without a valid license.

You're right, they don't.  They are deployed in larger numbers where crimes occur.  Those areas are inhabited by high concentrations of criminals who are usually minorities because, as every statistical metric proves, that's who commits the vast majority of crimes.  You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.  

[Airwolf]

6 minutes ago, LikeItHot said:

I know the deal by now so try to be prepared for checkpoints.  Once I came to stop at a red light and my front wheel touched the crosswalk.  You know, where all the Thais pull up in front of the cars waiting at the light? A crosswalk in an area that would never be traveled by pedestrians mind you.  A squadron of police jumped in front of me and started shouting and pointing.  I thought my bike was on fire from the drama.  I finally realized it was the front wheel touching paint causing all the fuss.  I didn't fight, handed over my license and was actually joking around with the cops who all had a laugh.  I then asked the boss how much the ticket was and the mood suddenly changed.  He threatened to charge me with bribery and demanded to search my bike.  He was obviously furious that I didn't care about the 500 baht and didn't bow down and beg.  You can't win with the brown clowns. 

 

Yeah, I know how it works here. I wish it was exposed more though, like the jet ski shake downs. 

 

 

[scorecard]

39 minutes ago, Airwolf said:

 

Yes, but if police in Western countries targeted a specific race, that wouldn't be tolerated.

Really... seems to me there many many cases of African American folks suffering police discrimination all over the US all the time and nothing happens. And it's not new. 

[Airwolf]

23 minutes ago, Purdey said:

I guess white cops in the US never discriminate against blacks and Latinos but I could be wrong. If you are wearing a helmet, then having a license is the next thing to check. Lots of tourists hire bikes without a valid license.

 

You can't compare a police check point targeting a specific race to rogue, racist cops in The US. 

[Airwolf]

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Really... seems to me there many many cases of African American folks suffering police discrimination all over the US all the time and nothing happens. And it's not new. 

 

Source? I guess Tiktok?

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Airwolf

[Purdey]

9 minutes ago, LikeItHot said:

You're right, they don't.  They are deployed in larger numbers where crimes occur.  Those areas are inhabited by high concentrations of criminals who are usually minorities because, as every statistical metric proves, that's who commits the vast majority of crimes.  You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.  

So happy to be proven wrong and that George Floyd and the dozens of unarmed black guys killed by cops were guilty of living in the wrong area and it had nothing to do with discrimination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unarmed_African_Americans_killed_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States

Also, happy to be able to access facts like the rate of Hispanics killed by law enforcement officers jumped nearly 45% in the last decade. Must have been because they committed 45% more crimes. 

https://www.axios.com/2023/05/30/police-brutality-latino-george-floyd

But I could be wrong I guess.

Oh, these aren't my facts.

[Purdey]

9 minutes ago, Airwolf said:

 

You can't compare a police check point targeting a specific race to rogue, racist cops in The US. 

.Yes, it is much worse in the US, I agree.

[Airwolf]

2 minutes ago, Purdey said:

.Yes, it is much worse in the 

3 minutes ago, Purdey said:

.Yes, it is much worse in the US, I agree.

 

I'm sure you do. 

[soi3eddie]

We foreigners are an easy target. Just have to accept it. Be sure to wear a helmet and have all documents in order. No big deal.

 

[it is what it is]

 

dear OP, please let us know which country you come from, i would love to visit a place that has zero racial profiling

[Gecko123]

Racial "profiling" involves targeting people on suspicion of having committed a crime based on their racial features. Fining foreigners for not wearing a helmet, which is something that can clearly be observed and doesn't involve speculation, does not fit the definition of racial profiling.

 

Additionally, just because the police at a given moment in time were unable to pull over every single person not wearing a helmet  and a Thai person not wearing a helmet happened to have passed by while a foreigner was receiving a ticket, does not necessarily mean that the police were "targeting" foreigners for no-helmet violations.

Edited December 8, 2023 by Gecko123

[Airwolf]

5 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

 

dear OP, please let us know which country you come from, i would love to visit a place that has zero racial profiling

 

I never said nowhere else has racial profiling. The difference is, it's rarely on a blatant institutional level as this, and if it is, it's usually condemned. 

 

The obvious example is racially profiling Middle Easterns at airports. This is wrong and there's plenty of media exposing and condemning it.

 

Set up a traffic stop in a US city and stop only Asians. It would blow up the internet.

[JoseThailand]

47 minutes ago, Airwolf said:

 

They give you a receipt after they've got their money so you can drive around with no helmet for 3 days with no helmet or license.

 

So they can literally stop you while wearing a helmet, and you can drive without it for 3 days if you like.

 

Maybe your reply was a joke? Hard to tell sometimes on here.

 

They just wanna make you wear a helmet for your own safety as a tourist. And yes, they give you 3 days to get a helmet, that's reasonable. Or you want them to stop and fine you every 5 minutes?

 

Thai police are doing a great job, no joke. 

Edited December 8, 2023 by JoseThailand

[Airwolf]

14 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

Racial "profiling" involves targeting people on suspicion of having committed a crime based on their racial features. Fining foreigners for not wearing a helmet, which is something that can clearly be observed and doesn't involve speculation, does not fit the definition of racial profiling.

 

Additionally, just because the police at a given moment in time were unable to pull over every single person not wearing a helmet  and a Thai person not wearing a helmet happened to have passed by while a foreigner was receiving a ticket, does not necessarily mean that the police were "targeting" foreigners for no-helmet violations.

I was wearing a helmet.

There was 4 or 5 of them. No Thais stopped. Obviously waiting for the next farang/easy money.

Why is this so hard to accept, it is what it is.