ezzra Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: and you continue trying to justify the unjustifiable. Sad. Can you, in anyway, logic or reasons, justify the rape, torture, burning and murdering of dozens of young Israeli women? This type of behaviour was practiced by the middle ages armies, the Mongols and the Barbarians, are the Palestinians following suite? One can understand a fight for a "just cause" but to dehumanise and degrade young women out of revenge and hatred?... Edited January 1 by ezzra 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 11 minutes ago, bannork said: I didn't realise Hamas was bombing and killing thousands of Palestinian children. Would it be happening without the Oct attack....no, has Hamas vowed to carrying on with these barbaric attacks.....yes. Is Hamas using its own citizens deaths to gain sympathy....yes. Should Israel lay down its arms and let Palestine slay them.....no. Don't start wars, they will never end well for you! 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 18 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Rubbish. If you get to the desperate attempt to try the moral high ground on this then you've already lost. Your are making vile unsubstantiated claims of this being acts of murder by Israel. I deal with facts. The facts are in my previous posts which you have ignored. A fact you seem to have trouble acknowledging is that Israel has been bombing Gaza, knowingly killing thousands of children, women and men. This is intentional slaughter. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bannork said: A fact you seem to have trouble acknowledging is that Israel has been bombing Gaza, knowingly killing thousands of children, women and men. This is intentional slaughter. Yes its been bombing, a fact no one can dispute, where did I dispute that? Knowingly killing thousands of children women and men is not a fact, you've just made that up. You also missed the thousands of Hamas terrorists killed that are not separated out in those death figures that are issued by Hamas, another fact. One more fact, it can all end tomorrow if Hamas surrenders and releases the hostages. It prefers to let the deaths continue. Edited January 1 by Bkk Brian 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I get the impression that some people ( and I'm not referencing any AN posters ) in israel think that as they are probably going to grow up to be Hamas they might as well die now. I get the impression that you didn't pour that many words, thoughts and faux emotional content when deaths of Israeli children were discussed, other than to deflect, deny and ridicule. 7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: You got two laughing emojis for that post. Some strange ( being polite ) people on here, to laugh about dead children. I would venture that the laughs were about poster's obviously insincere comment. Your comment is laughable as well. @thaibeachlovers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 5 hours ago, bannork said: Hamas are evil but that's no reason to slaughter thousands of innocent civilians. Israel are committing war crimes, fostering hatred for their nation for generations to come. 5 hours ago, bannork said: I didn't realise Palestinian children had been slaughtering Israelis. Do babies and children have to die in their thousands because of Hamas? 2 hours ago, bannork said: What do you call the deliberate bombing of homes in Gaza that has resulted in so many deaths of babies, children, women and men then? It's deliberate murder of Palestinians. Hamas are evil but so are Israel intentionally killing the innocent. When Hamas went on it's 7/10 attack, killing civilians, inflicting atrocities, rapes and so on were all on the menu. Part of the plan. The point being - intent. When Israel carries it's operations in the Gaza Strip, it does so knowing that civilians (including children) are likely to be hurt, be killed - but it is not the intent of the action. If it was, there would be no warning given to the population, no time to evacuate allowed, and civilians would be specifically targeted. This does not happen, and other than on propaganda posts and reports - is not claimed. There are, obviously, a whole lot of civilians (and children) injured and killed. That's regrettable, but unavoidable when carrying out a military campaign in a densely populated urban setting. Given Hamas practice of hiding behind, bellow and amongst civilians, it is to be expected. That you think it's same-same, doesn't amount to a whole lot, and is not supported by fact or reason. It's just a propaganda meme. None of these citizens were dead on 6/10. Hamas started this knowing the reaction. It did nothing to protect the populace under its care. It treats them as 'necessary sacrifices' for the cause. Hamas could also end this rather quickly - which it chooses not to. Somehow, you manage to ignore them parts of reality you don't like, and pin it all on Israel. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post ezzra Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 56 minutes ago, bannork said: A fact you seem to have trouble acknowledging is that Israel has been bombing Gaza, knowingly killing thousands of children, women and men. This is intentional slaughter. Why don't anyone asks the Hamas what were they thinking that 7th of October day? in the hundreds and hundreds of posts no one was able to answer this question, or they just didn't care for the consequences while they and their families are in a 5 stars hotels sitting on millions of dollars giving orders? THIS IS WAR, and what people don't understand about what WAR means?... 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, bannork said: A fact you seem to have trouble acknowledging is that Israel has been bombing Gaza, knowingly killing thousands of children, women and men. This is intentional slaughter. Not precisely. It's a policy of intentionally accepting civilian casualties when targeting military enemies. It's called war. Hamas started it. Hamas knew it would happen. Hamas intentionally uses human shields. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I get the impression that some people ( and I'm not referencing any AN posters ) in israel think that as they are probably going to grow up to be Hamas they might as well die now. Don't you keep telling us they are going to grow up to be Hamas and kill Jews? That's what the UN is training them for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, ezzra said: Can you, in anyway, logic or reasons, justify the rape, torture, burning and murdering of dozens of young Israeli women? This type of behaviour was practiced by the middle ages armies, the Mongols and the Barbarians, are the Palestinians following suite? One can understand a fight for a "just cause" but to dehumanise and degrade young women out of revenge and hatred?... You forgot beheading 40 babies. Even Biden saw the videos, the the Whitehouse said he didn't. Unbelievable. Strange you believe some propaganda but not others. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, Neeranam said: You forgot beheading 40 babies. Even Biden saw the videos, the the Whitehouse said he didn't. Unbelievable. Strange you believe some propaganda but not others. Disgusting denialism. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, Neeranam said: You forgot beheading 40 babies. Even Biden saw the videos, the the Whitehouse said he didn't. Unbelievable. Strange you believe some propaganda but not others. How many babies have to be beheaded before it becomes unacceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 34 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Don't you keep telling us they are going to grow up to be Hamas and kill Jews? That's what the UN is training them for. That's got to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, ezzra said: Can you, in anyway, logic or reasons, justify the rape, torture, burning and murdering of dozens of young Israeli women? This type of behaviour was practiced by the middle ages armies, the Mongols and the Barbarians, are the Palestinians following suite? One can understand a fight for a "just cause" but to dehumanise and degrade young women out of revenge and hatred?... You know what the justification is, they're Jews. Notice all anti-Israel never offer any suggestion about how Israel might go about eradicating Hamas or calling for Hamas to surrender. They (at least the ones that aren't just stupid) want Israel eradicated. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: You know what the justification is, they're Jews. Notice all anti-Israel never offer any suggestion about how Israel might go about eradicating Hamas or calling for Hamas to surrender. They (at least the ones that aren't just stupid) want Israel eradicated. Yes typically an unreasonable double standard is applied to Israel. So whats different about Israel? Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Jingthing said: That's got to stop. You know it won't. You need to take a hard look at some of the people you support. And Happy New Year Brother! I hope it's healthy, *happy and prosperous for you. *Except immediately after any elections... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: You know it won't. You need to take a hard look at some of the people you support. And Happy New Year Brother! I hope it's healthy, *happy and prosperous for you. *Except immediately after any elections... Well I certainly don't support the UNs stance towards Israel. It's horribly unbalanced compared to other conflict zones in the world. I don’t expect them to be pro Israel per se but their anti Israel bias is extreme. Edited January 1 by Jingthing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hawaiian Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 35 minutes ago, Neeranam said: You forgot beheading 40 babies. Even Biden saw the videos, the the Whitehouse said he didn't. Unbelievable. Strange you believe some propaganda but not others. What difference does it make whether Biden saw the videos or not? What's your point? From what I have observed, you seem to be the one repeating all the propaganda generated by Hamas and its supporters. Repetition does not make it any more believable unless one is brainwashed. Seems you fit the mold. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 25 minutes ago, Hawaiian said: What difference does it make whether Biden saw the videos or not? What's your point? From what I have observed, you seem to be the one repeating all the propaganda generated by Hamas and its supporters. Repetition does not make it any more believable unless one is brainwashed. Seems you fit the mold. The point is the President of the USA is spreading lies/propaganda. There were no videos, there were no 40 babies. I have never generated any Hamas propaganda, I have never said anything in support of Hamas. What makes you say this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Disgusting denialism. What I a denying? If it is the reported 40 babies being beheaded, why is it disgusting? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 Just now, Neeranam said: The point is the President of the USA is spreading lies/propaganda. There were no videos, there were no 40 babies. I have never generated any Hamas propaganda, I have never said anything in support of Hamas. What makes you say this? Why does most of your posts include 'The 40 babies' monologue. It gets really boring. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, Jingthing said: Not precisely. It's a policy of intentionally accepting civilian casualties when targeting military enemies. It's called war. Hamas started it. Hamas knew it would happen. Hamas intentionally uses human shields. Hamas are evil, I get that but using a human shield would stop anyone with any morals from blowing them up along with thousands of children, I'm surprised you can't see that. So many are being killed that is is becoming clear that Israel don't care,or worse. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 9 hours ago, bannork said: Hamas are evil but that's no reason to slaughter thousands of innocent civilians. Israel are committing war crimes, fostering hatred for their nation for generations to come. Indeed, the world will not forget this for a very long time, like 100s of years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, ezzra said: Why don't anyone asks the Hamas what were they thinking that 7th of October day? in the hundreds and hundreds of posts no one was able to answer this question, or they just didn't care for the consequences while they and their families are in a 5 stars hotels sitting on millions of dollars giving orders? THIS IS WAR, and what people don't understand about what WAR means?... Are you seriously saying that 8,000 child deaths are due to Hamas? Do you have any children? I really can't understand anyone with children being so uncompassionate. As I was listening to fireworks this morning, I was worrying about my kids and where they were and what they were doing. I can't begin to imagine what it is like for a father in Gaza not knowing if his kids are going to get blown up by Israeli missile at any moment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 15 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Hamas are evil, I get that but using a human shield would stop anyone with any morals from blowing them up along with thousands of children, I'm surprised you can't see that. So many are being killed that is is becoming clear that Israel don't care,or worse. No. You seriously don't get it at all. The facts have been posted numerous times and you're doing your usual ignore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 This slaughter, by a bullying and well armed modern army with weapons galore who have dec died to embark on a genocide is an outrage. Support BDS in 2024. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 8 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Hamas are evil, I get that but using a human shield would stop anyone with any morals from blowing them up along with thousands of children, I'm surprised you can't see that. So many are being killed that is is becoming clear that Israel don't care,or worse. So, you think that because they use human shields after committing atrocities, they should be allowed to continue committing atrocities until they quit using human shields. That seems like a really good plan. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, retarius said: This slaughter, by a bullying and well armed modern army with weapons galore who have dec died to embark on a genocide is an outrage. Support BDS in 2024. Indeed, can't call it a war when only one side is dying. Yes, there are one or two Israelis dying weekly but how many Israeli kids were killed since Oct 7? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Yes its been bombing, a fact no one can dispute, where did I dispute that? Knowingly killing thousands of children women and men is not a fact, you've just made that up. You also missed the thousands of Hamas terrorists killed that are not separated out in those death figures that are issued by Hamas, another fact. One more fact, it can all end tomorrow if Hamas surrenders and releases the hostages. It prefers to let the deaths continue. Please stop being obtuse. If you bomb a place where people live, you are going to kill them. That is intentional killing. ' Honestly your honor, I was aiming at the bloke below ground, I didn't intend to kill the family in the way, they were just collateral. ' 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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