Colorado Supreme Court kicks Trump off ballot

[Skeptic7]

The lower court judge had already absolutely found Trump had engaged in an insurrection. Her baffling point was that she wasn't sure if the person holding The Office of Chief Executive was an officer. HUH❗❓ DUH❗Think there was a method to her madness though. She didn't want to be the target of Trump and his crazy and dangerous cult/mob/hitmen/lunatics. Living in fear, receiving death threat and possible bodily harm to herself and family would have been the outcome...so she left it up to the Supreme Court, which "manned up" and did the right thing. 

[Walker88]

6 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

It will most likely will be struck down on appeal because nobody can show that Trump did incite an insurrection.

 

How many times have desperate folks failed to prove that already?

 

 

Of course. trump called all his Goobers to DC for the 6th (via Twitter, now X..."It'll be WILD"), and then held his rally where he told them to "march to the Capitol" and "You'll never take your country back by being weak", because they were having a sale of trump Presidency-related souvenirs at the Capitol Gift Shop.

 

Well.....maybe not. His comments about "If Mike Pence does the right thing" kind of hint---to all but the most clueless, low IQ, Birth Lottery Loser morons---what the Bloated One's intent was.

 

Personally, I'm still waiting for SC Smith to add "Sedition" (10 U.S. Code § 894 - Art. 94. Mutiny or sedition) to the charges against trump, because it's a capital offense carrying the death penalty.

Wouldn't THAT be a sight...watching the adipose-rich traitor sizzle like Sunday morning bacon on Sparky!

 

[andersonat]

3 hours ago, andersonat said:

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

 

Once again, The 14th Amendment Section 3.

 

  --  What this Section discusses is insurrection-or-rebellion *against The Constitution* ... not (only) against The Government.

 

 -  And so it's not only about what happened on 6 January.

 

[ozimoron]

8 minutes ago, andersonat said:

 

Once again, The 14th Amendment Section 3.

 

  --  What this Section discusses is insurrection-or-rebellion *against The Constitution* ... not (only) against The Government.

 

 -  And so it's not only about what happened on 6 January.

 

 

Once the link is proven in court between Trump and the fake electors it will be all over.

[Walker88]

52 minutes ago, illisdean said:

So, four unelected state (democratic, Soros funded) hack judges in CO are going to decide the 2024 presidential election?

What planet are you on? Can you see the danger in these rocky mountain pot-heads thinking they can subvert the constitution, interfere in elections and decide who can be a candidate? Lots of BS, in the minds of deluded dems in CO and elsewhere, as in here too. 

"Soros"

 

One can always tell a lot about someone when that person invokes George. Oh, you have proof Soros funded CO judges? Sounds slanderous.

 

Can chemtrails and FEMA Camps be far behind? And no Rothschilds?

 

So CO judges, using the US Constitution (you know that one; it's the one trump hates) cannot 'subvert an election' (sic), but an obese traitor can do that by trying to stop a pro forma certification of election results, or being part of a plot to appoint fake electors, or pressuring a SecState of GA to 'just find me 11,780 votes'?

 

 

[ozimoron]

Just now, Walker88 said:

"Soros"

 

One can always tell a lot about someone when that person invokes George. Oh, you have proof Soros funded CO judges? Sounds slanderous.

 

Can chemtrails and FEMA Camps be far behind? And no Rothschilds?

 

So CO judges, using the US Constitution (you know that one; it's the one trump hates) cannot 'subvert an election' (sic), but an obese traitor can do that by trying to stop a pro forma certification of election results, or being part of a plot to appoint fake electors, or pressuring a SecState of GA to 'just find me 11,780 votes'?

 

 

 

We do have proof of billionaires funding SC judges now but Soros is not among them.

[gargamon]

2 hours ago, morrobay said:

My consistency is for the electorate (right, independent , left,) to decide. Seems elements of the democrats are afraid of that. As were the republicans in the 2000 election. Where a judicial coup gave the election to bush by stopping the recount in FL. Gore won Florida in spite of that spoiler/ jerk Ralph Nader 

So if it's up to the electorate, then damn the constitution. Let's get Arnold Schwarzenegger to run. He'll for sure win the general if we ignore the constitution which states a US president needs to be born in the USA. 

 

 

[scottiejohn]

52 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Trump is a symptom, not the cause.

Trump is the primary cause!

[xylophone]

2 hours ago, wombat said:

it amazes me how scared the Democrat people are of Trump.

 

I think the issue is a little broader than that because they're not afraid of trump per se, they are afraid of the numbskulls and poorly educated who have joined others down the rabbit hole and who may, just may find another bunch of numb nuts who would vote for the lying clown, gullible as they are.

 

It's as much about the gullibility of the MAGA crowd as anything else, and so sad that it has come down to this.

[Skeptic7]

28 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

The shocking news is sufficient Americans could vote him into the role of President and that ain't changing whatever the outcome. The democratic system is failing because the country is failing the people. Trump is a symptom, not the cause. There is much trouble ahead.

 

Don't disagree with most of your reply, but either you're not very familiar with Trump or you're just plain wrong. Trump is not a symptom, but a cancer and the cause of that cancer. Prior to Trump, any other Republican on that debate stage could have been elected and none of them would have done any of what he has done. Because of him it's not even the Republican Party any longer, but rather The dangerous MAGA Cult of eff'n crazy. His terrible business track record precedes his outrageous politics. Everyone around him, aiding & abetting, has either already or is going down. Or they have turned on him to save their own asses. He's in deep doo-doo. He will not beat all 91 felony charges (likely not even many of them) and as bad as the American system had become prior to, but especially including because of him...it still works and is holding on. It needs tons of renovations and clarifications and tweaks now that Jester Trump and his looney MAGA members of Congress have done away with honor, integrity, tradition, normalcy and the always before accepted protocols that has worked since George Washington.

 

Trump is the main cause and is a malignant cancer to America and everyone in it...including his very own staunchest supporters. 

[ukrules]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Otherwise, any state court can kick anyone off the ballot

 

Yes, that's what they're doing here. It's odd as he had zero chance of winning there anyway.

 

[Walker88]

Last night, the Bloated One, at a rally of his low IQ Goobers, barked incessantly about immigrants and how they 'are poisoning the blood of the country'. Lost in that racist, fascist vitriol, is the fact his dad was son of an immigrant, and his mom herself was an immigrant.

 

In an interview years ago for the US magazine Vanity Fair, the traitor's first wife said that trump kept a collection of speeches of hitler on the nightstand next to the bed. The clown who claims proudly he has never read an entire book, selected that as his bedtime reading material.

 

There seems little doubt from where trump pulls such phrases as 'poisoning the blood' and his earlier use of 'vermin' to describe migrants. Of course when his tikitorcher fans marched in Charlottesville a few years ago, chanting "Jews will not replace us!", the hitler fan said of them 'very fine people...on both sides'. In trumpistan, Jew haters are 'some very fine people'.

[Walker88]

The CO decision is fair and consistent with what the Founders and additional Amendments to the Constitution demand.

 

It is an eligibility requirement, just like a POTUS candidate must be 35 years of age or older and must be a natural born US citizen. The 14th Amendment additionally required that a candidate cannot have engaged in insurrection. A CO judge, after hearing evidence, ruled that trump engaged in insurrection. The CO SC then ruled that trump violated a Constitutional eligibility requirement.

 

Someone like Arnold can be Gov of CA, but he cannot run for POTUS, because he was not born in the US. Taylor Swift is wildly popular (and likely much richer than trump), but she cannot yet run for POTUS because she isn't 35 years old yet. trump was ruled off the CO primary ballot because he engaged in insurrection.

 

He is ineligible.

[metisdead]

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[nauseus]

4 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

How many times have folks like you made this ridiculous argument?

 

Plenty of co-conspirators have already pleaded guilty, it's only a matter of time before the noose finally tightens around his fat fake-tanned neck.

 

 

If that's so ridiculous how come he hasn't been jailed for it?

 

Oh, I know. 

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, wombat said:

of course it will be over ruled🥷...there is still 12 months to go of this excrement, we are still at the kindergarten stage of muck throwing

 

I can agree with that.

 

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, animalmagic said:

The world noticed quite some time ago!

 

Your world did anyway.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

How/why is this BS? Just because you hate the Dems and love Trump? If you want to talk BS, how about the impeachment inquiry by the House Republicans into president Biden? Do you think that is BS as well?

 

Anyone with just half a functioning brain cell will have recognized what Trump and his co-conspirators were up to before, on and after Jan. 6, you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to be able to connect the dots. Many of his co-conspirators are now facing justice and have flipped on Trump. And Trump himself has been found guilty of sedition already, by that CO court, and is facing similar charges in Washington DC and Georgia. 
 

Please explain to me what the BS is that you so desperately want stopped, I’d be really interested.

 

BS because a "finding" from a single judge might result in some Republican voters in Colorado not having their choice of presidential candidate available as an option in the next election. Like Trump of not, others should be able to vote for the president that they want. I certainly don't love Trump but the Democrats are too busy with their witch hunts right now to even attempt to govern. Look how popular Biden is now.

 

The validity and value of the impeachment inquiry into Biden will hopefully be revealed after some evidence is presented. This inquiry will allow more evidence to be gathered first.  

 

 

[BKKKevin]

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Of course. trump called all his Goobers to DC for the 6th (via Twitter, now X..."It'll be WILD"), and then held his rally where he told them to "march to the Capitol" and "You'll never take your country back by being weak", because they were having a sale of trump Presidency-related souvenirs at the Capitol Gift Shop.

 

Well.....maybe not. His comments about "If Mike Pence does the right thing" kind of hint---to all but the most clueless, low IQ, Birth Lottery Loser morons---what the Bloated One's intent was.

 

Personally, I'm still waiting for SC Smith to add "Sedition" (10 U.S. Code § 894 - Art. 94. Mutiny or sedition) to the charges against trump, because it's a capital offense carrying the death penalty.

Wouldn't THAT be a sight...watching the adipose-rich traitor sizzle like Sunday morning bacon on Sparky!

 

 

 

 

Of course? Because you say so?

 

Trump asked people to protest "peacefully and patriotically" at the Capitol" - the two "p" words that are always omitted by the anti-Trumpers. The few idiots who caused the violent trouble were already there and already kicking it off while Trump was still speaking.

 

I hope it rains on your BBQ.

[illisdean]

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

So CO judges, using the US Constitution (you know that one; it's the one trump hates) cannot 'subvert an election' (sic), but an obese traitor can do that by trying to stop a pro forma certification of election results, or being part of a plot to appoint fake electors, or pressuring a SecState of GA to 'just find me 11,780 votes'?

The call where Trump called Raffensperger to get him to stop obstructing the fraud investigation?  As Trump explained during the call, evidence proves Trump won Georgia by a massive margin, only to have victory stolen through equally massive fraud.  Trump sought to avoid litigation forcing Raffensperger to do his job, which is to make at least a minimal effort to clear away enough fraud to allow Trump his actual and honest victory in Georgia. Trump breaks down the numbers and they discuss them, pretty basic stuff or "conspiracy of the century" in your mind perhaps? 

 

You should try reading the call transcript where there were lawyers and others who were on the call with Trump. When you are done please point out in what county, state, in America where Trumps call constitute a crime (or just a big troll tidbit bereft of logic for you)  LOL You got nothing but empty woke nothin-burgers.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html

 

Edited December 20, 2023 by illisdean

[RichardColeman]

What a surprise ! A democrat state, with a democrat court and a democrat state supreme court - what a total joke ! 

 

I see 3 possible outcomes of this : 

 

1. The supreme court over-rules it - I think is correct - it is a right wing leaning 6-3 supreme court anyway.  Trump has not been 'criminally' convicted of insurrection. The law was initiated originally I believe to stop confederates that fought against the union from running for president.

 

2. Supreme court agrees - I think unlikely, as it will lead to every state doing the same for each runner of both parties in every future election. There will be fighting on the streets if this happens. Biden/the democrats taking out the person ahead of them in the polls is ridiculous - America is becoming a banana republic if this happens and will be laughed at if they try and intercede in any world conflict

 

3. The total break up of the United States - the right leaning ones and the left leaning - say 25 states each - it may sound crazy but we are at a point where the judicial system has been politicised and each state is now going against the next. Personally, I think this is the best idea - the far left are far to radical now for any right leaning person to live with. 

[RichardColeman]

36 minutes ago, BKKKevin said:

Well, he'll certainly win the Florida primary being the only one on the ballot for the supposedly democratic democrats

[RichardColeman]

3 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

She didn't want to be the target of Trump and his crazy and dangerous cult/mob/hitmen/lunatics. Living in fear, receiving death threat and possible bodily harm to herself and family would have been the outcome...so she left it up to the Supreme Court, which "manned up" and did the right thing. 

1. Are you seriously suggesting that the current polls showing  a large swing for Trump is now due to people becoming cult members and lunatics ?  And not just normal people fed up with 'Bidenonmic' failures and border invasions ? 

 

2. Hopefully the NATIONAL supreme court - not the Colorado democrat state supreme court - will man up and shove the decision right down Colorado's 

 

Either way, 2024 is sure going to be a fun year in USA politics for an outsider - like me !

[RichardColeman]

4 hours ago, ozimoron said:

2. People died. There will be justice for them.

Seriously , spouting that is just fear mongering.

 

1 Died of a heart attack, 1 crushed by fellow rioters, 1 rioter shot by a policeman, 1 unknown death, and 1 policemen that cause of death was debateable.  The crowd was not shooting politicians, or burning in the building down - even the police showed them round the building

 

There was supposedly at least 400% more people killed in the BLM riots during police building attacks, looting, burning building , police assualts, etc  - who is being prosecuted for that ? Oh that's right - nobody. I would say that the BLM riots were far more insurrectionalist than Jan 6th

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

BS because a "finding" from a single judge might result in some Republican voters in Colorado not having their choice of presidential candidate available as an option in the next election. Like Trump of not, others should be able to vote for the president that they want. I certainly don't love Trump but the Democrats are too busy with their witch hunts right now to even attempt to govern. Look how popular Biden is now.

 

The validity and value of the impeachment inquiry into Biden will hopefully be revealed after some evidence is presented. This inquiry will allow more evidence to be gathered first.  

 

 

What evidence? Republicans keep screaming they have the smoking gun, and it always turns out to be big pile of horse sh!t. They’ve been at it for over a year and and still got nothing on Biden, and the only evidence they will ever be able to present will have been fabricated. The Biden crime family? Don’t make me laugh. They’re looking at the wrong (ex)presidential family.

 

Meanwhile, James Comer, the dumbass chairman of the House Oversight Committee, seems to be guilty of exactly the same thing he accuses Biden of having done. Only there’s no evidence Biden ever did that, and plenty of evidence Comer did. So why is Comer not being investigated?

Edited December 20, 2023 by rudi49jr

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

I certainly don't love Trump

I nearly fell out of my chair laughing after reading that. Good one!

 

All you guys always say things like ‘I’m no fan of Trump, but…..’ and then comes the Dems-bashing and the Trump praising. If only there was a word for that….

[morrobay]

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Last night, the Bloated One, at a rally of his low IQ Goobers, barked incessantly about immigrants and how they 'are poisoning the blood of the country'. Lost in that racist, fascist vitriol, is the fact his dad was son of an immigrant, and his mom herself was an immigrant.

 

 

Not lost on me is another one these people conflating normal legal proper emigration with illegal gangs from Central America, terrorists from mid east as well as millions more overloading the social/health services. * I sure hope Trump doesn't wimp out this time and call an executive order for the Army Corps of Engineers to build  the WALL from Pacific to Gulf. And spare all this " it won't work" progressive nonsense 

[rudi49jr]

17 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Not lost on me is another one these people conflating normal legal proper emigration with illegal gangs from Central America, terrorists from mid east as well as millions more overloading the social/health services. * I sure hope Trump doesn't wimp out this time and call an executive order for the Army Corps of Engineers to build  the WALL from Pacific to Gulf. And spare all this " it won't work" progressive nonsense 

Wasn’t Mexico going to pay for that will? And didn’t Trump promise “we’re going to win so much you’re going to get tired of winning”. 
 

How did that work out, Mexico paying for that wall, not to mention all that winning?

[Caldera]

13 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Carlos Samour, one of three justices who dissented, argued the government could not "deprive someone of the right to hold public office without due process of law".

"Even if we are convinced that a candidate committed horrible acts in the past - dare I say, engaged in insurrection - there must be procedural due process before we can declare that individual disqualified from holding public office," he wrote.

 

That would be my concern as well. As long as Trump hasn't been convicted for insurrection, disqualifying him as a candidate looks like a very questionable decision. I'd assume that this decision will be overturned for this reason.

 

I do think he's guilty of that crime, but he has a right to due process just like anyone else.