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Thai government resists Israeli embassy’s call for hostage release in Gaza

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38 minutes ago, RobU said:

Not theories there is plenty of evidence to show that the Israeli government knew exactly what was coming and deliberately allowed it to happen. They were warned by the Egyptians and their own trained spotters

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67958260

They got such intelligence.

They made a huge mistake not taking it seriously.

It's a disgusting conspiracy theory to believe the Israeli government wanted the October 7 massacre or indeed the war triggered by it.

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  • spidermike007
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    Probably a good idea to keep the Israeli government out of it, since they've failed at everything related to the Palestinians and Gaza since 1948. 

  • Yes you are.   Thailand is in the process of bargaining its nationals out of being hostages.   It knows that Hamas will not acquiesce to an Israeli demand for hostage release (as d

  • Scott Tracy
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    So, calling for the release of hostages, as a point of principle, is to be opposed? Each government of a national held as a hostage should negotiate with the hostage takers, individually? What happene

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52 minutes ago, RobU said:

Not theories there is plenty of evidence to show that the Israeli government knew exactly what was coming and deliberately allowed it to happen. They were warned by the Egyptians and their own trained spotters

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67958260

B.S Conspiracy theories. They <deleted> up and did not take warnings as seriously as they should. But deliberately allowed it to happen is total rubbish.

Thailand should do its own thing and avoid the pollution that comes from supporting Israel. 

9 hours ago, stoner said:

 

every single country ? 

 

yeahhh, even with Myanmar, N. Korea and China 555

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24 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

So "military occupation" is for you an Independent state???? Oh dear. 🙏

Gaza has been governed by Hamas elected by the people of Gaza. 

There had been hope they would pursue peace and cooperation with the state of Israel after Israel gave up their settlements there. It had incredible potential being on the sea. Sadly they did the opposite. That's on them not Israel.

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2 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I can't help you. Check the map, check UN. I'm not your nurse🙏

You're not my anything but you would make a good misinformation bot on the conflict.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Gaza has been governed by Hamas elected by the people of Gaza. 

There had been hope they would pursue peace and cooperation with the state of Israel after Israel gave up their settlements there. It had incredible potential being on the sea. Sadly they did the opposite. That's on them not Israel.

If you're occupied since 80 years and have to accept involuntary new settlements of Israelis in the North, and gates to Israel (Hebron) are opened only 3 days/week getting supplies of food and medicine or water.....how would you feel? And not living in your own state but totally dependent on Israel. How would you feel? A 2 state solution was rejected by Israel. They like to torture the Palestinians. They learn for this genocide from the best (s. History). 

Some Terrorists of Hamas did attack civilians. But that gives no right at all to Israel to continue killing many thousands of civilians around Gaza. That's why South Africa went to The Hague.🙏

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Just now, newbee2022 said:

If you're occupied since 80 years and have to accept involuntary new settlements of Israelis in the North, and gates to Israel (Hebron) are opened only 3 days/week getting supplies of food and medicine or water.....how would you feel? And not living in your own state but totally dependent on Israel. How would you feel? A 2 state solution was rejected by Israel. They like to torture the Palestinians. They learn for this genocide from the best (s. History). 

Some Terrorists of Hamas did attack civilians. But that gives no right at all to Israel to continue killing many thousands of civilians around Gaza. That's why South Africa went to The Hague.🙏

You're all over the place. Weren't we talking about Gaza? 

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

If you're occupied since 80 years and have to accept involuntary new settlements of Israelis in the North, and gates to Israel (Hebron) are opened only 3 days/week getting supplies of food and medicine or water.....how would you feel? And not living in your own state but totally dependent on Israel. How would you feel? A 2 state solution was rejected by Israel. They like to torture the Palestinians. They learn for this genocide from the best (s. History). 

Some Terrorists of Hamas did attack civilians. But that gives no right at all to Israel to continue killing many thousands of civilians around Gaza. That's why South Africa went to The Hague.🙏

Hamas does not accept a 2 state solution. Hamas does not recognize Israel. Facts.

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're not my anything but you would make a good misinformation bot on the conflict.

That's the question! Who is misinformed? If you want I'm delighted to give you some extra lessons in HISTORY. But I'm happy you started already with Wikipedia. Read it again, I guess it will help.🙏

If the Gaza strip would be an Independent Palestine and the Israelis would leave their irregularly occupied land where they built Kibbutze, then there will be peace. If not...... thousands of new Hamas fighters will be born and raised up.🙏

13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're all over the place. Weren't we talking about Gaza? 

Gaza is just a city. We're talking about Palestine, don't we?

4 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

That's the question! Who is misinformed? If you want I'm delighted to give you some extra lessons in HISTORY. But I'm happy you started already with Wikipedia. Read it again, I guess it will help.🙏

If the Gaza strip would be an Independent Palestine and the Israelis would leave their irregularly occupied land where they built Kibbutze, then there will be peace. If not...... thousands of new Hamas fighters will be born and raised up.🙏

Makes zero sense.

Kibbutz where?

Do you think the Hamas massacre on October 7 made the Israelis more amenable to trusting Palestinians, especially considering many of the people they slaughtered were of the more peacenik variety of Israeli? 

 

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Gaza is just a city. We're talking about Palestine, don't we?

No, we're talking about Gaza.

See topic.

14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Hamas does not accept a 2 state solution. Hamas does not recognize Israel. Facts.

In addition Hamas charter says kill all Jews and the state of Israel can't be allowed to exist.

24 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Hamas does not accept a 2 state solution. Hamas does not recognize Israel. Facts.

I recommend to read concerned UN resolutions. You will be surprised. Your facts are fake facts

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Makes zero sense.

Kibbutz where?

Do you think the Hamas massacre on October 7 made the Israelis more amenable to trusting Palestinians, especially considering many of the people they slaughtered were of the more peacenik variety of Israeli? 

 

Your questions are irrelevant if you would read the UN resolutions. Good night🙏

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Your questions are irrelevant if you would read the UN resolutions. Good night🙏

Can't speak for yourself, eh? Good riddance.

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

In addition Hamas charter says kill all Jews and the state of Israel can't be allowed to exist.

Yes, it's a group of terrorists. A group, not all people in the Gaza strip, No toddlers, no children. But now the genocide is ongoing. Israel in bloodthirstiness.🙏. Good night

7 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Yes, it's a group of terrorists. A group, not all people in the Gaza strip, No toddlers, no children. But now the genocide is ongoing. Israel in bloodthirstiness.🙏. Good night

The government of Gaza actually deeply embedded into the population. Many fighters under 18 ("children"). Genocide is an accusation, not a fact. As far as bloodthirstiness it's hard to get more blood thirsty than October 7. Israel didn't ask for this war.

 

36 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The government of Gaza actually deeply embedded into the population. Many fighters under 18 ("children"). Genocide is an accusation, not a fact. As far as bloodthirstiness it's hard to get more blood thirsty than October 7. Israel didn't ask for this war.

 

I found this for you:

https://www.democracynow.org/2024/1/2/south_africa_israel_genocide_icj

18 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I was aware. That proves nothing. 

Proof for what? Take the facts only, but not the propaganda.🙏

9 hours ago, ThaiFelix said:

Exactly.  Thailand is saying you are our friends Isreal (but we dont trust you)

 

No, Thailand is looking after itself as usual.

 

Friends with everybody, but only when it suits them.

 

It was during the last release of Thai hostages that Muslim militants in the South of Thailand were taking credit for their close contacts with Hamas.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The government of Gaza actually deeply embedded into the population. Many fighters under 18 ("children"). Genocide is an accusation, not a fact. As far as bloodthirstiness it's hard to get more blood thirsty than October 7. Israel didn't ask for this war.

 

Agreed,

 

And also there is this:-

 

In June 2007, Hamas fighters took control of the Gaza Strip and removed all Fatah officials. President Abbas, on 14 June, declared a state of emergency, dismissed Haniyeh's national unity government and appointed an emergency government, and suspended articles of the Basic Law to circumvent the needed PNC approval.

 

You have now militants controlling the country through force, not the ballot box.

 

There have been no elections since 2006. You therefore have a terrorist unelected de facto government.

 

Amazing, Israel gets attacked without any warning and 1300 plus civilians murdered and 248 plus taken hostages as shields, and the world says little.

 

Israel responds to them and they are the bad guys.

10 hours ago, ThaiFelix said:

Exactly.  Thailand is saying you are our friends Isreal (but we dont trust you)

And why would you trust a murderous zealot like Netanyahu, who is allied with some of the most extremist and hateful politicians within government, in the history of Israel? 

7 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

They can't cross a border because they live in ONE state. There is no state called Palestine, isn't it? Don't you know that?🙏

Have you ever tried to get from Gaza into Israel? It is up to a 4-hour wait behind a huge fence with heavily armed soldiers. Many Gazan people who work in Israel spend up to 6 or 8 hours a day going back and forth dealing with the security apparatus. 

1 hour ago, Scouse123 said:

Israel responds to them and they are the bad guys.

Another poster who condones massmurder !

 

Fortunately in minority this time around.

 

Eyes are now wide open towards Israel and their fascist ways

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Have you ever tried to get from Gaza into Israel? It is up to a 4-hour wait behind a huge fence with heavily armed soldiers. Many Gazan people who work in Israel spend up to 6 or 8 hours a day going back and forth dealing with the security apparatus. 

:smile: Ofcouse he hasn't

 

Off the shelf indoctrinated guy, who doesn't care

6 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

So "military occupation" is for you an Independent state???? Oh dear. 🙏

How many times????    Israel has not 'occupied' Gaza in any way since they withdrew in 2005!!!!

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24 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Have you ever tried to get from Gaza into Israel? It is up to a 4-hour wait behind a huge fence with heavily armed soldiers. Many Gazan people who work in Israel spend up to 6 or 8 hours a day going back and forth dealing with the security apparatus. 

Yes, many Gaza's have been very happy to work in Israel and get the much higher wages.   Obviously, there needs to be stringent security checks at the Israeli border for the reasons we all saw on 7th October!!!! 

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