Haiter, is it really bleach ?

[Daffy D]

So I'm trying to remove some mold from the mastic beading along the back of the sink.

 

Put on some bleach, cover with some rolled up loo paper add more bleach leave overnight and the mold will be gone. 

 

This used to work in Farang land but not here.

 

I use Haiter, which I have always believed to be bleach, but it does not remove the mold.

 

Any ideas why Haiter does not work in this case?

 

Is it actually a bleach and what's the difference with various colored bottles ?

 

We use the pink bottles if it matters. 

 

Thanks

[impulse]

23 minutes ago, Daffy D said:

We use the pink bottles if it matters. 

 

Thanks

 

I always had better luck with the blue.  Actually smelled like bleach, too.  (The pink stuff didn't)  Great for cleaning mold off my shower.

 

Edited January 18 by impulse

[4MyEgo]

12 minutes ago, Daffy D said:

Any ideas why Haiter does not work in this case?

 

I noticed that they have watered it down to make more profit, call me paranoid, but I noticed the difference just after Covid restrictions were lifted, suffice to say, I believe they did this to recoup the losses during Covid.

 

Well that's my take on it.

[jvs]

We use the blue variety to remove mold,works fine.

[retarius]

Smell's like bleach. 

[connda]

Sodium Hypochlorite.  I.e., bleach.

 

[Daffy D]

Now you mention it I do seem to remember that we used to use the blue one and yes it did have a bleachy smell.

 

Don't know when or why we switched to the color one, possibly because of the smell. 

 

Does seem like the colored bottles have less bleaching power. Tomorrow will try to get rid of the mold using the blue , see what happens.

 

Cheers. 

[GammaGlobulin]

Yes.

Good Topic.

 

I have, for many years, been looking here for CLOROX BLEACH, at a cheap price, just like it is available in North America.

 

For some reason the Haier Stuff is priced above my means.

 

What is really inside the pink bottle, I do not know.

 

I guess it is bleach, but not sure.

 

 

[bbko]

Three colored bottles to choose from; blue (unscented), yellow (fresh fragrance) and pink (perfume).

Here's some hints & tips in English from the maker's website;

 

https://www.kao.com/th/en/tips-tricks/

[BenStark]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

For some reason the Haier Stuff is priced above my means.

 

Haiter is 65 baht for 2.5 liter at Makro. If that is above your means then maybe time to go back home.

 

And yes some people on this forum are paranoid if they think it has been watered down. Blue haiter was 6% Sodium Hypochlorite before covid and is so today.

 

The pink and yellow version might be less. Bleach is 6% Sodium Hypochlorite, if you want stronger, find a pool shop which sells liquid chlorine, which is 12% Sodium Hypochlorite

[BenStark]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

For some reason the Haier Stuff is priced above my means.

 

Haiter bleach is 6% and 65 baht for 2.5ltr at Makro.

 

Clorox is 7.5% and US$ 11.73 for 121 OZ at Walmart.

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

6 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

Haiter is 65 baht for 2.5 liter at Makro. If that is above your means then maybe time to go back home.

 

And yes some people on this forum are paranoid if they think it has been watered down. Blue haiter was 6% Sodium Hypochlorite before covid and is so today.

 

The pink and yellow version might be less. Bleach is 6% Sodium Hypochlorite, if you want stronger, find a pool shop which sells liquid chlorine, which is 12% Sodium Hypochlorite

 

OK.

 

When you are right...you are right....and....I am wrong.

Therefore, thank you for your clarification.

 

I will continue to buy Haiter, based on your information.

 

STILL....I think it is too expensive.  WHY?  I think that most people here do not understand that this product should be very cheap, based on cost of production, packaging, shipping, and distribution.

 

I will not return home, even if I had another home outside Thailand to return to, just because Makro is beyond my means when purchased at more expensive stores.  Instead, I will take your advice and purchase it at Makro.  And, why don't they give us a discount by packaging this product in 4 liter (litre) jugs?  Can you answer me this?

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

1 minute ago, BenStark said:

 

Haiter bleach is 6% and 65 baht for 2.5ltr at Makro.

 

Clorox is 7.5% and US$ 11.73 for 121 OZ at Walmart.

 

 

 

Again....

 

THANK YOU...

THANK YOU....

 

For pointing this out....!

 

I feel much better now, after reading your info.

 

(By the way, about a decade ago, I could buy one gallon of Clorox at Costco in Taipei for about NTD25, or about Bt.25.  I guess the cost of bleach has risen many fold during the past decade...  But, there must be a reason for this...right?)

 

[BenStark]

4 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

STILL....I think it is too expensive.  WHY?  I think that most people here do not understand that this product should be very cheap, based on cost of production, packaging, shipping, and distribution.

 

It cost more than double in N America

 

 

4 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

And, why don't they give us a discount by packaging this product in 4 liter (litre) jugs?  Can you answer me this?

 

You ever been to Makro or any other shop in Thailand, or you are just arguing for the sake of increasing you post count with useless posts. (No need to answer that one, everyone on this forum know the answer)

 

Haiter is available in 5 liter, and most likely cheaper per liter as in smaller volumes

[GammaGlobulin]

24 minutes ago, BenStark said:

You ever been to Makro or any other shop in Thailand, or you are just arguing for the sake of increasing you post count with useless posts.

 

I have been to Makro.

They do not accept AmEx Card...so...I do not shop there.

I am NOT arguing.

I do NOT care about my post count, and I only care about the quality of my comments.

None of my posts are useless; please just ask other readers who will confirm my opinion regarding this question.

 

AND, I am very interested in bleach, no matter what the brand.

 

 

[richard_smith237]

37 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

None of my posts are useless; please just ask other readers who will confirm my opinion regarding this question.

 

[GammaGlobulin]

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

What?....

Did I say something amusing?

 

 

[scottiejohn]

4 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

What?....

Did I say something amusing?

 

 

No!

[GammaGlobulin]

8 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

No!

 

I thought not.

But then...why the many emoticons of some cartoon lying down with mirth?

 

 

[thailand49]

19 hours ago, Daffy D said:

So I'm trying to remove some mold from the mastic beading along the back of the sink.

 

Put on some bleach, cover with some rolled up loo paper add more bleach leave overnight and the mold will be gone. 

 

This used to work in Farang land but not here.

 

I use Haiter, which I have always believed to be bleach, but it does not remove the mold.

 

Any ideas why Haiter does not work in this case?

 

Is it actually a bleach and what's the difference with various colored bottles ?

 

We use the pink bottles if it matters. 

 

Thanks

Not as strong white or yellow bottle pink is for color clothes.

I use that method  but here some stains are easy somevor not I neef to use a brush most of time .

 

[Chris BKK]

Chlorine based bleach is made by bubbling chlorine gas into caustic soda (sodium hydroxide) solution and is sold by Haifer in light blueish green bottles, cheap as anything. Note on the bottle says should be used for white clothes only, The pink one is for coloured clothes so useless for mould. Take care as if reacted with acidic solutions will give off chlorine gas. The strenght depends on percentage of chlorine gas used in the manufacturing process.

[Skeptic7]

14 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

For some reason the Haier Stuff is priced above my means

 

[Retfed50]

14 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Yes.

Good Topic.

 

I have, for many years, been looking here for CLOROX BLEACH, at a cheap price, just like it is available in North America.

 

For some reason the Haier Stuff is priced above my means.

 

What is really inside the pink bottle, I do not know.

 

I guess it is bleach, but not sure.

 

 

You can find CLOROX on Lazada, but its not really cheap. 165 baht for a 2 liter bottle.

[jojothai]

FYI,

As i understand it the pink is for use with colored clothes, not whites.
So it is not as strong.

[Srikcir]

13 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I think that most people here do not understand that this product should be very cheap, based on cost of production, packaging, shipping, and distribution.

And then there is the product MARKUP, aka profit margin. Product is not sold from nonprofit organizations.

The price of the product gets higher as it goes up in the supply chain: manufacturer price, distributor price, and retail price.

https://www.ecwid.com/blog/retail-price.html

It's called "capitalism."

Depending on the product there may also be research & development costs prior to manufacturing that requires a profit margin. In some industries such as pharmaceuticals, there may be substantial government licensing costs such as safety and patent costs. 

 

[LosLobo]

12 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

I have been to Makro.

They do not accept AmEx Card...so...I do not shop there.

I am NOT arguing.

I do NOT care about my post count, and I only care about the quality of my comments.

None of my posts are useless; please just ask other readers who will confirm my opinion regarding this question.

 

AND, I am very interested in bleach, no matter what the brand.

 

 

I suggest Makro is 'Cash & Carry' though it does accept CitiBank.

Amex even in the West will not be accepted by a lot of stores, as their fees are too high.

 

Edited January 19 by LosLobo

[Mises]

20 hours ago, Daffy D said:

So I'm trying to remove some mold from the mastic beading along the back of the sink.

 

Once the black is in the silicone beading you cannot remove it,  You will have to remove the beading and renew. 

Nothing to do with Haiter quality.

[GammaGlobulin]

11 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

And then there is the product MARKUP, aka profit margin. Product is not sold from nonprofit organizations.

The price of the product gets higher as it goes up in the supply chain: manufacturer price, distributor price, and retail price.

https://www.ecwid.com/blog/retail-price.html

It's called "capitalism."

Depending on the product there may also be research & development costs prior to manufacturing that requires a profit margin. In some industries such as pharmaceuticals, there may be substantial government licensing costs such as safety and patent costs. 

 

 

Good to know.

Thank you.

 

Note: Did you attend The Wharton School, by any chance?

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

8 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

I suggest Makro is 'Cash & Carry' though it does accept CitiBank.

Amex even in the West will not be accepted by a lot of stores, as their fees are too high.

 

 

Yes.

3 percent, I think.

Not exactly sure what percent is charged to the merchant.

Also, very low margin on supermarket grocery sales, as you suggest.

 

[UKJASE]

has anyone ever noticed that one of the other brands of bleach, one of the main ones, not sure on name tho, sorry - leaves a blue stain on the porcelain of the toilet and is nigh on impossible to shift?

 

if the bleach is left for an hour or two, the toilet gets stained!  at least it is blue i guess, not yellow :D