30 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not good but they are being held for some reason.

Very different than taking random babies and grannies as HOSTAGES like terrorist Hamas.

 

And they were not taken into custody with the aim of 'trading' them with Hamas or anyone.

That difference.

29 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

I'm literate and think critically.

 

@ozimoron

 

Link, please.

29 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

If there was a reason other than breathing while Hamas they would be charged in accordance with international and Israeli law.

 

@ozimoron

 

He said knowingly.

What is it with you and making these pronouncements?

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

@ozimoron

 

Link, please.

Post of the day 🤣

I am very curious what exactly the UNRWA staff did on the day of the October 7 atrocities.  Were they full participants? Cheerleaders? Did they help Hamas criminals hide their captives?  Any participation in such a crime deserves a lot more than just being fired- they need to be arrested.  

 

But it has been an open secret for years that UNRWA is  a Hamas sympathizing organization. A convenient channel to throw untold millions of donated dollars into terror tunnels, terror weapons, and not help the Gazan population at all. 

9 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

You need hostage both sides for that, there are only one set of hostages and they are stuck deep inside dark tunnels being sexually abused, those that haven't been murdered that is. 

 

Israeli soldiers who were literally dragged from their tanks in full military uniforms are considered hostages? We all seen the footages of IDF being humiliated and dragged like dolls that day.

 

Stop your lies about hostages being sexually abused inside dark tunnels. You have zero proof of such allegations and released female hostages in earlier prisoners' swaps all testified to the humane treatment and lack of any abuse or torture.

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I agree that you're confused but I don't believe for one second that you don't know what "River to the Sea" means in the context of this discussion. Come on man, stop wasting people's time with such juvenile games.

 

I know what it means because BOTH sides have used it to describe their sole entitlement to the land based on biblical fairy tales of ancient conquest by force.

2 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Israeli soldiers who were literally dragged from their tanks in full military uniforms are considered hostages? We all seen the footages of IDF being humiliated and dragged like dolls that day.

 

Stop your lies about hostages being sexually abused inside dark tunnels. You have zero proof of such allegations and released female hostages in earlier prisoners' swaps all testified to the humane treatment and lack of any abuse or torture.

October 7 denialism is like holocaust denialism. 

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

I know what it means because BOTH sides have used it to describe their sole entitlement to the land based on biblical fairy tales of ancient conquest by force.

You're not fooling anyone. 

Just now, Jingthing said:

You're not fooling anyone. 

 

Do you deny what I just said?

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Do you deny what I just said?

I think you're playing silly games.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I think you're playing silly games.

 

So you can't bring yourself to admit that far right Israeli ministers have used the term to claim that the land belongs to Israel? The statements in question formed part of the evidence tendered by SA top the ICJ.

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

October 7 denialism is like holocaust denialism. 

 

“The biggest insult to the memory of the Holocaust is not denying it but using it to commit genocide against the Palestinian people.” Norman Finkelstein

8 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Israeli soldiers who were literally dragged from their tanks in full military uniforms are considered hostages? We all seen the footages of IDF being humiliated and dragged like dolls that day.

 

Stop your lies about hostages being sexually abused inside dark tunnels. You have zero proof of such allegations and released female hostages in earlier prisoners' swaps all testified to the humane treatment and lack of any abuse or torture.

 

   Yes, they are indeed hostages , no doubt you will call them something else , but they are actually hostages .

   Being held hostage  is when you are being held by a person or organisation and that person makes demands for your release , so the soldiers are indeed being held hostage and its irrelevant as to what clothes they were wearing or what vehicle they were driving .

   It makes no difference at all that they were driving tanks and wearing military uniforms , your boys are still holding hostages and committing war crimes

6 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

“The biggest insult to the memory of the Holocaust is not denying it but using it to commit genocide against the Palestinian people.” Norman Finkelstein

 

   I wonder how many Israelis support Australian  Aborigine's and there plight of genocide ?

Will there be marches in Tel Avia asking Australians  to treat Aborigines better ?

Why are you so bothered about  a Country so far away from you and nothing to do with you  ?

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Yes, they are indeed hostages , no doubt you will call them something else , but they are actually hostages .

   Being held hostage  is when you are being held by a person or organisation and that person makes demands for your release , so the soldiers are indeed being held hostage and its irrelevant as to what clothes they were wearing or what vehicle they were driving .

   It makes no difference at all that they were driving tanks and wearing military uniforms , your boys are still holding hostages and committing war crimes

Not sure how to classify your reply, silly or comical? A soldier in military gear, captured on the battlefield and dragged by the collar from inside a military tank is a hostage??? LOL

 

To the contrary, Israel is well known for taking hostages all the time. Zionists often take mothers, wives, sisters of Palestinian freedom fighters as hostages to pressure them into surrender. 

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I wonder how many Israelis support Australian  Aborigine's and there plight of genocide ?

Will there be marches in Tel Avia asking Australians  to treat Aborigines better ?

Why are you so bothered about  a Country so far away from you and nothing to do with you  ?

Off topic trolling again. You keep bringing Aborigines into this thread. We discussing here  Israel-Hamas war and the unfolding genocide in Gaza.

 

You can start a new thread about the Aborigines genocide, and I would happily contribute.

4 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

Not sure how to classify your reply, silly or comical? A soldier in military gear, captured on the battlefield and dragged by the collar from inside a military tank is a hostage??? LOL

 

To the contrary, Israel is well known for taking hostages all the time. Zionists often take mothers, wives, sisters of Palestinian freedom fighters as hostages to pressure them into surrender. 

For someone that calls Hamas freedom fighters that's not surprising you find it a touch tricky to classify the reply.

 

Never new freedom fighters gang raped, mutilated tortured and abducted babies, kids. Women and men. Never new freedom fighters burnt families alive who were locked in their homes or safe rooms. Never new freedom fighters beheaded Thai's or executed innocent civilians on mass.

7 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

Off topic trolling again. You keep bringing Aborigines into this thread. We discussing here  Israel-Hamas war and the unfolding genocide in Gaza.

 

You can start a new thread about the Aborigines genocide, and I would happily contribute.

The topic is about the UN agency in Gaza teaching children to hate Jews and worse.

12 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

Not sure how to classify your reply, silly or comical? A soldier in military gear, captured on the battlefield and dragged by the collar from inside a military tank is a hostage??? LOL

 

To the contrary, Israel is well known for taking hostages all the time. Zionists often take mothers, wives, sisters of Palestinian freedom fighters as hostages to pressure them into surrender. 

 

   You don't seem to know what the word hostage means , I have already explained what the word means , but you still cant seem to manage to understand , no point in talking further, as you  dont know the meaning of words 

1 hour ago, Danny Australia said:

 

“The biggest insult to the memory of the Holocaust is not denying it but using it to commit genocide against the Palestinian people.” Norman Finkelstein

The psychopath.

 

 

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

So you can't bring yourself to admit that far right Israeli ministers have used the term to claim that the land belongs to Israel? The statements in question formed part of the evidence tendered by SA top the ICJ.

As I have said to you before Ozimoron, I have no idea why you call yourself a "moron" when it's clear you are highly intelligent 😉

Topic Update: The roots of Hamas’ terror attack can be found in Gaza’s schools

A 2013 New York Times article said that Gaza schools run by Hamas and the U.N. both use the Palestinian Authority curriculum that is also taught throughout the West Bank, but that “Hamas has added programs, like a military training elective” and other teachings to “infuse the next generation with its militant ideology.”

 

This curriculum “includes references to the Jewish Torah and Talmud as ‘fabricated,’” the Times reported, and a description of Zionism as a racist movement whose goals include driving Arabs out of the entire area between the Nile in Africa and the Euphrates in Iraq, Syria and Turkey.”

 

This is a curriculum designed to indoctrinate and radicalize its students in support of Hamas’ terrorist aims.

Even the comparatively moderate Palestinian Authority textbooks are problematic. In 2020, the European Union’s Parliament adopted three resolutions condemning the authority “for continuing to teach hate and violence in its school textbooks,” following a study confirming incitement in the curriculum. To teach physics, a textbook showed students “a picture of Palestinians hitting Israeli soldiers with slingshots,” the study found, while another “promotes a conspiracy theory that Israel removed the original stones of ancient sites in Jerusalem and replaced them with ones bearing Zionist drawings and shapes.”

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13 hours ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Israeli soldiers who were literally dragged from their tanks in full military uniforms are considered hostages? We all seen the footages of IDF being humiliated and dragged like dolls that day.

 

Stop your lies about hostages being sexually abused inside dark tunnels. You have zero proof of such allegations and released female hostages in earlier prisoners' swaps all testified to the humane treatment and lack of any abuse or torture.

 

@Danny Australia

 

These are not lies. There are testimonies. There's evidence. It was discussed in depth and length on these topics and across multiple media outlets.

 

What it is, is you, a Hamas fanboy running interference and trying to justify, minimize, normalize and deny anything wrong with Hamas's actions.

 

You also lie - not all female hostages released testified as you claim. You're a liar.

13 hours ago, Danny Australia said:

 

“The biggest insult to the memory of the Holocaust is not denying it but using it to commit genocide against the Palestinian people.” Norman Finkelstein

 

@Danny Australia

 

Hamas fanboy quoting a well known Israel-hater.

There is no 'genocide'.

12 hours ago, Danny Australia said:

Not sure how to classify your reply, silly or comical? A soldier in military gear, captured on the battlefield and dragged by the collar from inside a military tank is a hostage??? LOL

 

To the contrary, Israel is well known for taking hostages all the time. Zionists often take mothers, wives, sisters of Palestinian freedom fighters as hostages to pressure them into surrender. 

 

@Danny Australia

 

Australian Dannys often make bogus claims.

12 hours ago, Danny Australia said:

Off topic trolling again. You keep bringing Aborigines into this thread. We discussing here  Israel-Hamas war and the unfolding genocide in Gaza.

 

You can start a new thread about the Aborigines genocide, and I would happily contribute.

 

@Danny Australia

 

You are not 'discussing' anything, you're here to bash Israel and troll.

‘These schools are in every single way - radical organizations' Marcus Sheff, CEO of the Institute for Monitoring Peace and Cultural Tolerance in School Education, elucidates the content taught to Palestinian children in UNRWA schools.

 

 

This has been known for years and its now coming back to to manifest in real world action. A complete failure for the UN to address its own agency for years and allowing this to happen.

 

In 2022, the Israeli watchdog IMPACT-se said UNRWA educational material taught students that Israel was attempting to "erase Palestinian identity, steal and falsify Palestinian heritage, and erase the cultural heritage of Jerusalem", adding that the agency promoted "anti-Semitism, hate, intolerance and lack of neutrality".

The European Commission identified what it called "anti-Semitic material" in the schoolbooks, "including even incitement to violence". The European Parliament has called repeatedly for EU funding to the Palestinian Authority to be conditional on removing such content. UNRWA has previously said that reports made about its educational material were "inaccurate and misleading" and that many of the books in question were not used in its schools.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68123222

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