The October 7 'genocide' video evidence in full: Civilians are slaughtered and mutilated, terrified families rounded up like cattle and Hamas terrorists ring proud parents to boast of atrocities in footage presented by Israel to ICJ

[Morch]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and yet the IJC ordered israel to stop genocidal acts on Gazans.

 

October 7 does not justify war crimes and crimes against humanity on a subject people.

 

One day, perhaps years from now, some israelis will be brought to justice for what they are doing, but it will not be enough to atone for their crimes now.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Topic is about a film showing Hamas 7/10 attack, atrocities etc.

I'm-Not-A-Terrorist-Supporter poster's first comment - a deflection post about Israel, the ICJ and minimizing Hamas's attack and role in this.

Well done.

[Morch]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

I won't be the last person to say he was killed in airstrikes which were widely regarded as genocide. It was after all, my opinion.

 

@ozimoron

 

Here's the think, your opinion is meaningless, and practically no one cares about it.

What you actually claim was that the ICJ decided this.

You cannot back it up, so you waffle, repeat the same over and over again, then blame others for what you do.

You're a troll.

[Morch]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

I agree that October 7th was inevitable.

 

@ozimoron

 

No, that's just you dishonestly misrepresenting what was said,

And also attempting to justify it - 7/10 was Hamas's decision. It was not 'inevitable'.

Tell me more about how you're not a Hamas fanboy.

[Morch]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

Yes, all of it was inevitable. The precise nature and details could not have been predicted by anybody but that a terrorist attack would likely occur was inevitable.

 

The attack did not come out of the blue for everybody.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/22/why-hamas-murderous-attack-on-israel-was-predictable

 

@ozimoron

 

Now you're trying to came this was no surprise. Wonder what's next.

And, as usual making excuses for and trying to justify Hamas.

On a topic discussing a film detailing what happened on 7/10.

 

[ozimoron]

Mediators from Arab nations say they have a new proposal to end the Israel-Hamas war, drafting a hostage release cease-fire on Saturday, according to a new report.

 

In exchange, Israel would release Palestinian prisoners and would allow for an increased flow of aid to Gaza, per the Egyptian officials cited in the report.

 

Following this period, Hamas would release hostages that are part of Israel’s military, starting with women, followed by men and human remains in the weeks that followed. For this, Hamas would be guaranteed that an agreement to end the conflict would be reached during the ceasefire.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/4433830-mediators-draft-new-hostage-release-cease-fire-report/

 

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Mediators from Arab nations say they have a new proposal to end the Israel-Hamas war, drafting a hostage release cease-fire on Saturday, according to a new report.

 

In exchange, Israel would release Palestinian prisoners and would allow for an increased flow of aid to Gaza, per the Egyptian officials cited in the report.

 

Following this period, Hamas would release hostages that are part of Israel’s military, starting with women, followed by men and human remains in the weeks that followed. For this, Hamas would be guaranteed that an agreement to end the conflict would be reached during the ceasefire.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/4433830-mediators-draft-new-hostage-release-cease-fire-report/

 

 

@ozimoron

 

That's basically like all the other reports on the deal-in-the-works. The mechanics of the exchange are not, apparently a huge problem - but the question of what follows is. It is not reasonable to expect that the conflict could be resolved in this time frame. It is not reasonable to expect Israel to accept Hamas next door as if nothing happened.

[Morch]

There is another film, 'Supernova' - which focuses on events, testimonies and clips from the Nova trance music festival. I do not have a handy link right now, but it can be googled for sure. 

[retarius]

Where are the 25000, sorry now 26000, innocents slaughtered by Israel? In this video I saw a some fighters firing assault rifle and a handful of people injured, if it was shown to the ICJ they didn't see it as any justification for Israel's current brutality. And neither do I. 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, retarius said:

Where are the 25000, sorry now 26000, innocents slaughtered by Israel? In this video I saw a some fighters firing assault rifle and a handful of people injured, if it was shown to the ICJ they didn't see it as any justification for Israel's current brutality. And neither do I. 

 

   They have been martyred and they are all happily living in their Muslim heaven , they go straight  to Heaven after being martyred , no questions asked 

[retarius]

44 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Mediators from Arab nations say they have a new proposal to end the Israel-Hamas war, drafting a hostage release cease-fire on Saturday, according to a new report.

 

In exchange, Israel would release Palestinian prisoners and would allow for an increased flow of aid to Gaza, per the Egyptian officials cited in the report.

 

Following this period, Hamas would release hostages that are part of Israel’s military, starting with women, followed by men and human remains in the weeks that followed. For this, Hamas would be guaranteed that an agreement to end the conflict would be reached during the ceasefire.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/4433830-mediators-draft-new-hostage-release-cease-fire-report/

 

Why would Hamas accept a ceasefire in return for hostages if the ceasefire has an expiry? What would be to stop Isreal renewing their inhuman brutality when they get the hostages back?

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, retarius said:

Where are the 25000, sorry now 26000, innocents slaughtered by Israel? In this video I saw a some fighters firing assault rifle and a handful of people injured, if it was shown to the ICJ they didn't see it as any justification for Israel's current brutality. And neither do I. 

Off topic and just to be clear. There have not been 26000 innocents slaughtered. 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, retarius said:

Why would Hamas accept a ceasefire in return for hostages if the ceasefire has an expiry? What would be to stop Isreal renewing their inhuman brutality when they get the hostages back?

 

   The Hamas terrorists need to face justice , they need to be bought to justice for their crimes ,

They cannot expect to get away with war crimes , murder and rape and child abduction , either face a Court of law and get instant justice from a 2000 pound bomb . 

[FruitPudding]

And let's not forget that all of Palestine - as well as muslims and sympathisers around the world - were partying and rejoicing about it.

 

Well, at least for a day.

[ozimoron]

25 minutes ago, retarius said:

Why would Hamas accept a ceasefire in return for hostages if the ceasefire has an expiry? What would be to stop Isreal renewing their inhuman brutality when they get the hostages back?

 

You didn't read the link obviously.

[Adumbration]

Why did the IJC not just nip this whole thing in the bud and send in Zohan?

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

Why did the IJC not just nip this whole thing in the bud and send in Zohan?

 

No need, Xervil got there first.

[Bkk Brian]

“We can not afford to ignore terrorists’ genocidal aspirations. History has taught us when people say they want to kill Jews, they want to kill Jews.”

 

 

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

Where are the 25000, sorry now 26000, innocents slaughtered by Israel? In this video I saw a some fighters firing assault rifle and a handful of people injured, if it was shown to the ICJ they didn't see it as any justification for Israel's current brutality. And neither do I. 

Hamas, and people associated with them should be wiped from the face of the earth, but it is timely to remember that Hamas started this war with its own form of brutality, and they must have realised what the outcome would be, but they went ahead anyway.

 

They are reaping what they have sown and any other casualties who are not linked to them are "casualties of war" which has happened since time immemorial – – so no surprises there. They knew what they were doing and now they are paying the price, as are others, so the Palestinian deaths are on their shoulders.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

Where are the 25000, sorry now 26000, innocents slaughtered by Israel? In this video I saw a some fighters firing assault rifle and a handful of people injured, if it was shown to the ICJ they didn't see it as any justification for Israel's current brutality. And neither do I. 

 

@retarius

 

You are well aware by now that these figures include Hamas men killed. Why call them innocent?

As for video clips you claim to have seen, and don't bother to link - pfft.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, retarius said:

Why would Hamas accept a ceasefire in return for hostages if the ceasefire has an expiry? What would be to stop Isreal renewing their inhuman brutality when they get the hostages back?

 

@retarius

 

One reason might be to save Gazan lives, but apparently, that's not much of a consideration for Hamas leadership.

 

And then there's the flip side - why would Israel accept an agreement which leaves Hamas in place, when Hamas vowed to carry similar attacks in the future?

[ozimoron]

25 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Hamas, and people associated with them should be wiped from the face of the earth, but it is timely to remember that Hamas started this war with its own form of brutality, and they must have realised what the outcome would be, but they went ahead anyway.

 

They are reaping what they have sown and any other casualties who are not linked to them are "casualties of war" which has happened since time immemorial – – so no surprises there. They knew what they were doing and now they are paying the price, as are others, so the Palestinian deaths are on their shoulders.

 

Certainly the perps should be rounded up. What about the many Palestinians who have since joined Hamas and keep joining Hamas and will keep joining Hamas as long as this war goes on because they now see themselves as defending Palestine. Should they be wiped out too?

[coolcarer]

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Certainly the perps should be rounded up. What about the many Palestinians who have since joined Hamas and keep joining Hamas and will keep joining Hamas as long as this war goes on because they now see themselves as defending Palestine. Should they be wiped out too?

Those perps happen to be vicious evil terrorists and anyone joining their ranks needs the same treatment. Perp……wow

[ozimoron]

Just now, coolcarer said:

Those perps happen to be vicious evil terrorists and anyone joining their ranks needs the same treatment. Perp……wow

 

Terrorists are perpetrators of terrorism last time I went to school. Then you are advocating genocide.

[Morch]

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Certainly the perps should be rounded up. What about the many Palestinians who have since joined Hamas and keep joining Hamas and will keep joining Hamas as long as this war goes on because they now see themselves as defending Palestine. Should they be wiped out too?

 

@ozimoron

 

The perps. Maybe it was just some misdemeanor. Spank on the wrist stuff.

What about, what about what about....whataboutery.

[Morch]

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

Terrorists are perpetrators of terrorism last time I went to school. Then you are advocating genocide.

 

@ozimoron

 

Making things up again.

No one advocated 'genocide' other than in your warped imagination.

[coolcarer]

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

Terrorists are perpetrators of terrorism last time I went to school. Then you are advocating genocide.

How would I be advocating genocide exactly? Terrorists need eliminating, be that in prison or dead. 

[ozimoron]

Since Palestinians have no representative government thanks to Netanyahu, they naturally drift to the only organization who fights Israel. That doesn't make them terrorists no matter how many countries declare Hamas to be a terrorist organization. Until they are complicit in acts of terrorism or conspiracy to commit them they are not terrorists. They may be charged with belonging to a terrorist organization but that is distinct from carrying out acts of terrorism. Right now they are fighting an invading army in uniform.

[Morch]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Since Palestinians have no representative government thanks to Netanyahu, they naturally drift to the only organization who fights Israel. That doesn't make them terrorists no matter how many countries declare Hamas to be a terrorist organization. Until they are complicit in acts of terrorism or conspiracy to commit them they are not terrorists. They may be charged with belonging to a terrorist organization but that is distinct from carrying out acts of terrorism. Right now they are fighting an invading army in uniform.

 

@ozimoron

 

Yeah, it's all about Netanyahu. Nothing to do with the Palestinians themselves. They were all getting alone just fine until Netanyahu changed that. Any other fairy tales you want to try? Palestinians could have chosen to do a whole lot of things - the divide is not simply Netanyahu's doing, even if he contributed to such. You're dishonestly misrepresenting things.

 

Further, not all Palestinians align with Hamas. It may get higher support rating now, but these things tend to fluctuate. Again, another dishonest misrepresentation by you.

 

Right now, Israeli hostages are held in the Gaza Strip, by Hamas (and other organizations). That's a terrorist act. Rockets launched at Israel? Terrorist act. You portraying them as not being a terrorist organization? Hamas whitewashing.

[coolcarer]

16 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Since Palestinians have no representative government thanks to Netanyahu, they naturally drift to the only organization who fights Israel. That doesn't make them terrorists no matter how many countries declare Hamas to be a terrorist organization. Until they are complicit in acts of terrorism or conspiracy to commit them they are not terrorists. They may be charged with belonging to a terrorist organization but that is distinct from carrying out acts of terrorism. Right now they are fighting an invading army in uniform.

No representative gov would be down to Hamas and Oct 7th not Netanyahu. Blame game the wrong one. Check topic heading and OP

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

No representative gov would be down to Hamas and Oct 7th not Netanyahu. Blame game the wrong one. Check topic heading and OP

 

Hamas would not exist without Natanyahu. The PA would otherweise have been the undisputed government. The stated purpose of Natanyahu's support of Hamas was to prevent Palestinian unity and to thwart a 2 state solution.

 

 

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